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Nate87
05-08-2011, 10:32 PM
Greetings Calgunners,
As the title says, what we have here is a Colt's Government Model MKIV/Series '70 in .38 Super and I need your help. I recently became aware that one of my uncles had this pistol in his possession for quite some time. After fondling it one day I asked him if he'd consider selling it or trading it for on of my firearms. He said no.... I guess that got him wondering what it's worth and asked if I can find out more about this firearm. So here I am, asking the members of this forum with all their infinite wisdom for some help. I used the search function as well as some Google-fu but had no luck. All the websites i checked didnt have the serial number listed. The main thing I'm looking for is the year the pistol was made and what the potential market value is. A little background on the pistol; My uncle said he bought it new for $500 right after he got married which I'm guessing is some time in the 70's?? He has only fired it like 4 different times and is in prety good condition. There seems to be a small idiot mark on it, but thats about it. Ohh, and he said he thinks he still has the box for it somewhere, if that counts for anything. Over all its in great shape. It just sits in a drawer on his nightstand for home defense use. So let me know what you guys think or what you can tell me about it. Thanks in advance.

I'll be taking it to the range this week and putting some rounds down range with it and seeing how it shoots.

Nate

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/NateDogg8732/IMG_0872.jpg
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http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/NateDogg8732/IMG_0881.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/NateDogg8732/IMG_0882-1.jpg

fed20
05-08-2011, 10:36 PM
Nice! You'll be wanting your own after you shoot it. I love mine. Have fun!

Nate87
05-08-2011, 10:47 PM
Nice! You'll be wanting your own after you shoot it. I love mine. Have fun!

I ALREADY DO WANT ONE! Thats why i asked him if he'd be willing to let it go!

morrcarr67
05-09-2011, 7:30 AM
This pistol was made in 1981 and I would rate it as 90-93% because of the marks in front of the slide stop. I would say it's worth in the $1300 to $1400 range.

psango
05-09-2011, 7:58 AM
That's a beauty never let it out of the family!

GUNNTZ
05-09-2011, 8:40 AM
Based on last years blue book, around 900-1000 which is calling it 98%. That model is a MKIV/Series 70 manufactured between 1976-81. The blued finish usually fetches a lower price. Best way to get a market value is by looking on gun broker, see what the like wise pistols have sold for. Keep in mind colt models of 38 super are a bit more hard to come by in Komiefornia.

http://www.proofhouse.com/colt/index.html

Link gets you close

Nate87
05-09-2011, 8:42 AM
This pistol was made in 1981 and I would rate it as 90-93% because of the marks in front of the slide stop. I would say it's worth in the $1300 to $1400 range.

Thanks for the info. I checked proofhouse.com and other sites but was unable to locate this S/N. They only went up to the mid 70's. Do you have a link i can check out?

That's a beauty never let it out of the family!

Dont worry, it is'nt going anywhere! Unless he's willing to let me take it off his hands :43:

fred40
05-09-2011, 9:06 AM
Nice! It's true very hard to find one here in Cali.

westcoast362
05-09-2011, 12:27 PM
I would say in the $1500 range. Please keep it in its original configuration. No aftermarket anything.

jonzer77
05-09-2011, 12:34 PM
I just ordered one and I am waiting for my new blued colt in 38 super, thank you single shot :)

morrcarr67
05-09-2011, 12:48 PM
Thanks for the info. I checked proofhouse.com and other sites but was unable to locate this S/N. They only went up to the mid 70's. Do you have a link i can check out?

Sorry I don't. I have a book That list serial numbers up to 1982.

Paradiddle
05-09-2011, 12:56 PM
Based on the prices on CG recently I would think you will get between $1000 and $1300 for it. And it will only sell to a person who can afford to reload and shoot 38 super.

morrcarr67
05-09-2011, 1:56 PM
Here is some pricing from gunbroker.com

1948 did not sell (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=214834641) for $1600; reserve was not met.

Here is a 1982 that got no bids (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216367869), starting price $1385

Here is a different 1948 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=228069277) that has a high bid of $1600

Here's a 1972 with a owner who smokes crack (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=229220505)

Here is a 1936 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=227086298) with an starting price of only $13,999

So as you can see prices are all over the place.

Johansenk
05-09-2011, 2:20 PM
Here's a 1972 with a owner who smokes crack (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=229220505)


Man you weren't kidding

redcliff
05-09-2011, 2:26 PM
Be aware that these .38 Super Colts don't group well at all due to the way the cartridge head spaces off the rim/extractor in the Colt barrels instead of on the case mouth. It wasn't until 1990-1991 that Colt finally changed their barrels despite custom barrel makers like Bar-sto recognizing the problem back in the 70's.

Nate87
05-09-2011, 4:08 PM
yeah, those prices ARE all over the place! I'll just give him a low ball value to be safe. It probably has more sentimental value to him anyways. As for the groupings, I'll find out soon enough. Just picked up some ammo and can hopefully make it to the indoor range tonight.

Sikhawk
05-09-2011, 5:23 PM
considering these are hard to come by in that condition(and course off-roster) 900-1000 + 100 california premium.

Nate87
05-10-2011, 10:06 PM
I was able to make it to Magnum range in Rancho tonight and try out the pistol. Put 100 rounds through it. I only had one .38 Super mag for it so i figured I'd try out an extra .45 1911 mag I had lying around. I'm not the greatest pistol shooter so i wasnt expecting anything spactacular. Here is how it/I shot.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w94/NateDogg8732/IMG_0885.jpg

The top group was 2 mags semi rapid fire from 20 ft.
Middle group was 4 mags rapid at 25
Bottom group was the remaining 5 or 6 mags slow fire at 25

The .45 mag did work with the .38 rounds in it. I only had one FTF and was alternating between the two different mags throughout the trip.

trashman
05-10-2011, 10:15 PM
They are classic guns -- I'd grab one in a heartbeat but Colt collectors are more ruthless than S&W collectors...

--Neill

Nate87
05-11-2011, 8:04 AM
I'm TRYING to get it off my uncles hands but he's holding on to it. No one knew he had it all this time, but now that they know he's already had about half-a-dozen offers from different family members to buy it. He's not a collector. This is his only firearm. He's just had it for a long time.