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joelogic
05-08-2011, 10:32 PM
Can anyone ID this .308 bullet? It is a 147gr FMJBT with a cupped base and a wide smooth cannalure. OAL is 1.257" and they are bi-metal

I could have bought it at Grafs, wideners, natchezz, or Golden West but I am pretty sure they are from wideners. I just want to double check because their long bodies work perfectly for my application.


http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m353/joelogic/c333b07f.jpg
http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m353/joelogic/ced79e33.jpg
http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m353/joelogic/cd06ae84.jpg


I think they are these. http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=7238&dir=278|281|727
http://www.wideners.com/images/fulls/Image1379.jpg

yakmon
05-08-2011, 11:06 PM
i have no idea, but an observation. isn't that cannalure a little close to the base?

gorblimey
05-08-2011, 11:15 PM
I believe the Wideners you reference are the droids you're looking for, though the body on yours somehow looks longer in your photo.

If you'd like a definitive sample from the Wideners bag o' 308 for comparison purposes, I'll bring a few to work (downtown SF). PM and drop by...

Zeke003
05-08-2011, 11:24 PM
Looks like the Widener's mil surplus ones.

joelogic
05-08-2011, 11:57 PM
The bodies are long and that is why they work so well for me. The cannalure does seem low on the base but I am loading to mag length anyway.

gorblimey - I appreciate your offer but maybe you could just measure the bullets length first.

gorblimey
05-09-2011, 12:16 AM
0.548 ogive length with the Hornady .30 comparator. 1.134 base to tip.

joelogic
05-09-2011, 10:46 AM
Shoot, now I have no idea where I bought them from. I guess I really should label my cans. These bullets are 1.257" OAL and have a steel jacket. Maybe they are from polygun or pat's or I bought them privately.

http://www.polygunbag.com/.308147GrainTipsLargerView.html
http://www.gibrass.com/projectiles.html

gorblimey
05-09-2011, 11:20 AM
Yeah, these Wideners are non-magnetic. The steel jacket would explain the longer body at the same overall weight, given the reduced average density compared to lead/copper.

Triple R Munitions
05-09-2011, 7:08 PM
they are pulled .311 (orginal 7.62x54r) projos, that may have been resized to 308. they are most likely steel cored...cut one apart and find out.

R

five.five-six
05-09-2011, 7:15 PM
they are pulled .311 (orginal 7.62x54r) projos, that may have been resized to 308. they are most likely steel cored...cut one apart and find out.

R

are those the ones from the 1919a4.com GB?


and if you have a magnet, you don't have to cut them

gorblimey
05-09-2011, 9:32 PM
Well, it woud be good to determine whether it's a steel jacket and/or a steel core.

joelogic
05-09-2011, 11:54 PM
Whatever it is made of I just snapped the tip off of some tin snips. I will saw it in half tomorrow.

joelogic
05-10-2011, 8:51 AM
They seem to be only steel jacketed.

Triple R Munitions
05-11-2011, 2:56 AM
well...guess they are not steel cored.

bruceflinch
05-13-2011, 12:55 PM
Steel jacketed is a nono at at a lot of ranges as well.

Who does your nails, Joe? ;)

jimmykan
05-19-2011, 3:09 PM
I bought a bunch of the Widener's stuff. It does not look like the sample in your pictures, the base is definitely different.

thai562
05-19-2011, 3:31 PM
It look like mil surplus pulled bullets. That guess is base on what look like a crimped marked on the bullets.
other than that, no clue.

Flyin Brian
05-19-2011, 3:52 PM
I have a large stash of what appears to be the same bullet, but mine are .311 which makes me think Triple R is on the right track. I bought mine from a seller on gun-broke that sells a bunch of pulled surplus resized bullets and I was able to get these before they were resized.

This photo is showing they are roughly 1.25" long and have the wide and smooth cannalure. The smaller bullet next to it is one of the bulk Hornady generic .308 150gr that Midway sells. BTW, the left one does not attract a magnet, the right one does.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/Flyin_Brian/reloading/FMJ002.jpg