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JOEKILLA
11-28-2006, 3:41 PM
I have an exisitng Cali-legal AR and I cannot decide on where to go from here.

I want to add another rifle to my collection but with a higher caliber than a .223.

I need some input to help me decide on which path to take....

1- Purchase a Stag 6.8 upper. and use my existing lower.

2- Purchase a 6.8 stamped Stag lower and a Stag 6.8 upper.

3- Purchase a SOCOM 16.


Thanks - JOE

EBWhite
11-28-2006, 3:43 PM
I'd go with the socom. .308 is a cheaper round than the 6.8 easier to get too

cornholio1
11-28-2006, 3:48 PM
Socom. Can't beat a 308

NSR500
11-28-2006, 3:49 PM
Socom

bu-bye
11-28-2006, 4:32 PM
Socom. 308 is a much better round overall plus its cheaper.

CalGunsNoob
11-28-2006, 4:35 PM
http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/

SemiAutoSam
11-28-2006, 4:41 PM
.308 over an oddball caliber hell yes all the way for tons of reasons.

#1 reason ammo availability and price .

#2 power of the .308 round.

#3 Rifle parts avilibility.

I would pick a FN FAL in the same size but if your stuck on a M1A then go for it.

Im looking for a bolt gun that shoots a round right between the .308 and .50 caliber what would that be ?

.4375 or 11.1125mm ?

rorschach
11-28-2006, 4:50 PM
Socom THEN 6.8 http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i309/tsol_roolz/msmiley1.gif

grammaton76
11-28-2006, 4:53 PM
Socom THEN 6.8 http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i309/tsol_roolz/msmiley1.gif

I'm with Rorschach. You want as many excuses to buy guns as possible!

Stanze
11-28-2006, 4:58 PM
Im looking for a bolt gun that shoots a round right between the .308 and .50 caliber what would that be ?



.338 Lapua Magnum is supposed to bridge the gap between the 7.62mm NATO and .50 BMG. Pricey to shoot though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.338_Lapua

ghost
11-28-2006, 4:59 PM
buy the socom

Aluisious
11-28-2006, 5:26 PM
.338 Lapua Magnum is supposed to bridge the gap between the 7.62mm NATO and .50 BMG. Pricey to shoot though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.338_Lapua

.338 Lapua Magnum bridges the gap between you and the next county...a bit of a rediculous round.

I'd get one if I had a million bucks.

SemiAutoSam
11-28-2006, 5:30 PM
I was thinking 458Win Mag bullet in a 50 BMG "style" case.

JOEKILLA
11-28-2006, 5:41 PM
I'd hate to shell out more moolah for the SOCOM16 but me like it. :D

SemiAutoSam
11-28-2006, 5:44 PM
Build a 16 inch DSA FAL

ChuckG
11-28-2006, 5:53 PM
If you go 6.8.. I'd use your current lower and the money saved to put some sort of match trigger with lightened hammer in there. Have you seen the Geissele demonstarion video (http://www.geissele.com/trigger.mpg)? Automatics is in their name but that is a semi-auto rifle! :eek:

You can then swap uppers at will. Just remember to remove the pistol grip prior to changing out the magazines. ;)

I personally chose 6.8 over 5.56.. Simply because it has all the admirable traits of the 5.56 AR platform that I am already familiar with (acceptable semi-auto recoil, lighter weight, accuracy). The upside being increased power and range out of a 16" barrel with less drift, and with proper rounds, better penetration as needed should you find yourself hunting in brush.

Compared to the 5.56 there are very few downsides that I know of, the largest of which being ammo cost. That said, reloading with quality brass (multiple times) should bring the overall cost down quite a bit.

6.8 can be pretty accurate and alot of fun to shoot too. I shot the following 1/2" 5 shot group at 100 yards with match grade factory ammo. I need to go back and do a 10 shot group to compare.. but I think it might stay under an inch after I practice a bit.

http://members.roadfly.com/chuckd/IMG_0051.JPG


OK I'll step off my 6.8 soapbox... I have never fired or even seen a SOCOM16. I imagine a .308 battle rifle being a much different animal altogether. And I wouldn't mind owning one myself, but will probably go .308 later with some sort of bolt action rifle.

Atmosphere
11-28-2006, 6:04 PM
Im looking for a bolt gun that shoots a round right between the .308 and .50 caliber what would that be ?

http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifles/rifles_m9916.htm

hoffmang
11-28-2006, 8:24 PM
You may also want to wait for the AR-10 revolution in January. .308 on the AR style platform.. Mmmm.

-Gene

cornholio1
11-28-2006, 8:36 PM
You may also want to wait for the AR-10 revolution in January. .308 on the AR style platform.. Mmmm.

-Gene


U talking about the POF? CWS is gonna own Cali.

mltrading
11-28-2006, 11:56 PM
Can not beat a 308. Why not getting a full size M1A? You will love it.

The 6.8 ammo gonna cost a leg and an arm.:)

rorschach
11-29-2006, 1:35 AM
The 6.8 ammo gonna cost a leg and an arm.:)

So is .308 now that all the surplus SA is drying up.

C.G.
11-29-2006, 1:52 AM
I have an exisitng Cali-legal AR and I cannot decide on where to go from here.

I want to add another rifle to my collection but with a higher caliber than a .223.

I need some input to help me decide on which path to take....

1- Purchase a Stag 6.8 upper. and use my existing lower.

2- Purchase a 6.8 stamped Stag lower and a Stag 6.8 upper.

3- Purchase a SOCOM 16.


Thanks - JOE

You haven't explained what you want to do with it. Guess what, that is a huge factor.

five.five-six
11-29-2006, 3:32 AM
Can not beat a 308. Why not getting a full size M1A? You will love it.

The 6.8 ammo gonna cost a leg and an arm.:)

no on a 16" .308 get a scout 18" much better

cornholio1
11-29-2006, 8:02 AM
So is .308 now that all the surplus SA is drying up.


Yea..but 6.8 isn't a Walmart item either.

rg_1111@yahoo.com
11-29-2006, 8:53 AM
+1 for off list AR-10

JOEKILLA
11-29-2006, 8:56 AM
You haven't explained what you want to do with it. Guess what, that is a huge factor.

I want to add another rifle to my collection but with a higher caliber than a .223.

Just want another rifle :D

JOEKILLA
11-29-2006, 8:58 AM
So is .308 now that all the surplus SA is drying up.


I agree. Their prices are pretty much the same. Give and take a dollar or so.

RANGER295
11-29-2006, 11:23 AM
no on a 16" .308 get a scout 18" much better
+1 I have used both and like the scout better. That being said, they are both great rifles. If I wanted it for a truck gun say to replace my Norinco SKS Paratrooper, I would go with the 16. Depends on what you want it for but that is a short barrel for a .308.

bucac_tau
11-29-2006, 9:53 PM
I was thinking of a Remington 700PSS in .308 as my squirrel hunting gun...

C.G.
11-29-2006, 10:03 PM
Just want another rifle :D

Then you'll end up buying all of them anyway.:D

Pryde
11-29-2006, 10:31 PM
I'd also say Socom: or better yet fullsized M1A or FAL.

I have my doubts about 6.8, something tells me that it is gonna go the way of .45GAP or .41AE........... If that happens you don't wanna get stuck holding the purse.

JOEKILLA
11-30-2006, 10:09 AM
Then you'll end up buying all of them anyway.:D


SHHHHHH....don't tell my wife. :D

RANGER295
11-30-2006, 11:47 AM
I'd also say Socom: or better yet fullsized M1A or FAL.

I have my doubts about 6.8, something tells me that it is gonna go the way of .45GAP or .41AE........... If that happens you don't wanna get stuck holding the purse.
+1 I never buy any firearms in a non standard caliber. All of my firearms are in calibers that have been around forever and are easy to find (.22, .223, 7.62x39, 7.62x54R, .308, .30-06, 12ga, 9mm, .38/.357, .40, .44, .45) wow that is a wider variety than I realized I had. When you start getting into the specialized stuff it is more expensive, harder to find, and if it is new it may be a fad which I expect will be the case with 6.8.

cornholio1
11-30-2006, 11:49 AM
+1 I never buy any firearms in a non standard caliber. All of my firearms are in calibers that have been around forever and are easy to find (.22, .223, 7.62x39, 7.62x54R, .308, .30-06, 12ga, 9mm, .38/.357, .40, .44, .45) wow that is a wider variety than I realized I had. When you start getting into the specialized stuff it is more expensive, harder to find, and if it is new it may be a fad which I expect will be the case with 6.8.


I think that too, but whats your take on the 50 Beowulf?

RANGER295
11-30-2006, 1:54 PM
I think that too, but whats your take on the 50 Beowulf?
It is really kind of early to tell. I think that it has a lot of potential, but it doesn't seem that wide spread. My take, it has a better chance than 6.8 but I wouldn't buy it now. That is just a stab in the dark though. Only time will tell.

xenophobe
11-30-2006, 3:10 PM
6.8 SPC isn't really a non-standard round anymore. It still isn't widely available, but 6.8 SPC is pretty much here to stay.