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JayBeeJay
05-06-2011, 10:35 PM
So my BRD sickness is starting to act up again and I thought about building a MK18 Mod 0. I plan to make it as close to the exact model except replacing the Colt lower with an LMT and permanently attaching a MFI dummy can to the 10.5" LMT upper. Priced it out including optics and it would be the same price as a SCAR 16s without optics.

Just wanted input and opinions from folks that either own or have shot both style rifles. I'm stuck with LMT pulling on one arm and FNH pulling on the other because I can't afford to buy both right now unless I sold my bike. Holler at me folks!

themailman
05-06-2011, 10:50 PM
Ive never heard anything more ridiculous than a perm can on a 10.5" bbl. If you want an AR, get a 14.5 or 16, if you want a SCAR get one. Apples to oranges.

JayBeeJay
05-06-2011, 10:54 PM
Maybe you didnt understand and need to reread...I WANT TO MAKE IT AS CLOSE TO THE EXACT MK18 MOD 0 AS POSSIBLE! I already have 4 AR's and want to do something different. Basically if you don't have anything to contribute to what I'm asking for escort your *** on to the next topic please.

themailman
05-06-2011, 10:57 PM
Wow, internet tough guy...

So the Cran Mk18 Mod O has a bullet button and a PERMANENTLY ATTACHED FAKE CAN? Sounds like a replica to me...

JayBeeJay
05-06-2011, 11:06 PM
Internet tough guy? Did I threaten you in anyway? I just responded to you in the proper manner. What point are you trying to get at anyways? No **** it would be a replica and? That's the whole point behind building it lol.

MrPlink
05-06-2011, 11:06 PM
both! Thats what I did, well kinda
I

you could go the route I did, and make (legally of course) a pistol out of a LMT upper.
I originally planned to do mine as a "Mock 18", but when it came time to buy RIS I ended up just getting std carbine handguards, and tossed a carry handle sight on it. I may change it up in the future though.

If you really must go rifle route, I would just get a std carbine upper and toss a fake can over it that makes it look like a short barrel. If you are going to have the length of a rifle, might as well have the benefits of it as well.

On the SCAR end I picked up a 17s a few months back. Outside of ammo costs, I couldnt be happier!

If I had to pick, Id say SCAR. Like you said, you already have 4 ARs.

Dhena81
05-06-2011, 11:09 PM
Scar 16

JayBeeJay
05-06-2011, 11:12 PM
^^^ Thanks for the input bro. I originally was going to run the 16" LMT and just slide the MFI over the barrel, only problem is I think I may have OCD and really wanted it as close to the original MK18 as possible lol. Uppers are the same price so that probably would be more practical. As far as the SCAR the 17s is the one I originally wanted, but can't find one CA ready or for a decent price. Valkyrie Arms has a waiting list with like 20 people on it lol.

themailman
05-06-2011, 11:17 PM
Internet tough guy? Did I threaten you in anyway? I just responded to you in the proper manner. What point are you trying to get at anyways? No **** it would be a replica and? That's the whole point behind building it lol.

You must have missed my sarcasm. You cry and cry about building a replica and getting it as close as possible, then say you want to weld a 6" long tube at the end of your rifle, attach a bullet button, use 10rd magazines, and only have sem-auto capabilities.

Are rifles no longer functional tools anymore? We have a term for people like you in the 4x4 world, "Disco Truckers". They buy a 2WD truck, lift it, throw on 35's, Chrome everything, then brag about theyre "offroad" truck. I hate to throw this term out there, but this is mall ninja.

Float your boat, stop getting to so offended, its the internet. You wont have anything close to a MK18 Mod 0, you want us to tell you why you should buy an apple or an orange, and you are easily offended. Great combo for a winning personality. Lol.

JayBeeJay
05-06-2011, 11:23 PM
^^^ Why you still even talking bruh? You really think I care about you trying to judge me calling me a crybaby and a disco trucker LMAO. On top of that you can call me a mall ninja all you want it's not hurting my feelings I'm a grown *** man and know what I want and I'm going to do what I want regardless of your sarcasm and useless opinons. On to the next.

JayBeeJay
05-06-2011, 11:26 PM
On top of that no firearm I've ever bought or built has been a safe queen so wtf is wrong if I want a replica MK18. You sayin just because it's not issued by the Navy it's not going to shoot lol. Wow some people on these boards just blabber for no damn reason.

themailman
05-06-2011, 11:31 PM
So my BRD sickness is starting to act up again and I thought about building a MK18 Mod 0. I plan to make it as close to the exact model except replacing the Colt lower with an LMT and permanently attaching a MFI dummy can to the 10.5" LMT upper. Priced it out including optics and it would be the same price as a SCAR 16s without optics.

Just wanted input and opinions from folks that either own or have shot both style rifles. I'm stuck with LMT pulling on one arm and FNH pulling on the other because I can't afford to buy both right now unless I sold my bike. Holler at me folks!

Lol, I'm loving this thread. Do you read english? If so, I assume you can read the english writing that I quoted here. That writing is from...you. You asked for an opinion, you were given an opinion, and then became so hurt that you resorted to ghetto posting and calling a grown man "bruh" lol. Like I said, its the internet, dont take it so seriously, you'll hurt yourself. Dont want opinions? Dont ask for em.

JayBeeJay
05-06-2011, 11:35 PM
Save the drama for your mama "bruh". If you have anymore useless things to say PM me so nobody has to read through your garbage. This is worse than bickering with the wifey lol.

pyro3k2
05-06-2011, 11:50 PM
Maybe you didnt understand and need to reread...I WANT TO MAKE IT AS CLOSE TO THE EXACT MK18 MOD 0 AS POSSIBLE! I already have 4 AR's and want to do something different. Basically if you don't have anything to contribute to what I'm asking for escort your *** on to the next topic please.

You have 4 AR's why would want a 5th? get the SCAR 16s. And as I read Themailmans response (sarcastic as it maybe) I understood it as leaning towards the SCAR 16s and not the AR, pointing out the problems with trying to make a replica of the MK18 mod 0.

Grassninja
05-06-2011, 11:56 PM
I never understood the appeal of having fake/nonfunctional things on weapons here. If you're trying to make a rifle "as close to the real Mk18 as possible" then you automatically fail pretty hard by having a nearly half-foot long functionless tube permanently attached to it.

Get the SCAR. It's a legit 16'' rifle that'll be different without being phony.

JayBeeJay
05-06-2011, 11:58 PM
Yeah I hear you man. You know how BRD gets outta control sometimes, and a MK18 Mod 0 replica would be different than my other 4 AR's. I originally wanted a SCAR for my next rifle, but I became skeptical dropping $2500 when I started reading about peoples mishaps with their SCARs. Seems like most seem to be running fine though.

JayBeeJay
05-07-2011, 12:09 AM
I never understood the appeal of having fake/nonfunctional things on weapons here. If you're trying to make a rifle "as close to the real Mk18 as possible" then you automatically fail pretty hard by having a nearly half-foot long functionless tube permanently attached to it.

Get the SCAR. It's a legit 16'' rifle that'll be different without being phony.

I get what your saying, but it's not like the fake can stops the rifle from running. I mean really the only difference literally would be the dummy can as opposed to a real can and the Colt lower being a LMT lower. Everything else from the M2/Wilcox mount, SOPMOD stock, KAC RIS HG, KAC VFG, LMT fixed BUIS, CQD rear/front sling mounts would all be on the real deal. Function wise it should run the same as a real MK18 minus suppressing noise and being semi-auto wouldnt it?

MrPlink
05-07-2011, 1:22 AM
find one CA ready or for a decent price. Valkyrie Arms has a waiting list with like 20 people on it lol.

thats who I got mine from in Jan.
It took 30 days to get, which as I understand it isnt too bad

pacrimguru
05-07-2011, 2:28 AM
i'm all for you making a rifle look like one that you want it to look like. in fact, i made a mk18 look-alike with one of my ar builds. but the whole point of the mk18 is it's sbr length. you give up the ballistics of a longer barrel for the maneuverability of a shorter barrel.

that being said, why don't you do what i did and order the mfi fake suppressor so that it is a shroud that covers up a 16" barrel? that way you get the looks of a 10.5" barrel with a suppressor on it but you also retain the better ballistics of a 16" barrel? it's the best of both worlds. a bonus to that approach is that if you ever want to change the build up, you won't be stuck with a perm attached 10.5" barrel. take off the shroud and you have a 16" barrel to build from.

see my "mk18-ish" build here:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=250448

metalliman545
05-07-2011, 4:57 AM
Seems like jaybeejay is obsessed with gshocks watches and 'bling' seems like an internet tough guy with an email like
toosavageforya@aol.com
Likes to sell hats. Can dig up way more info but I'm too lazy to actually get on my computer (using blackberry)

JayBeeJay
05-07-2011, 5:59 AM
Thanks for the input Jerry! Obsessed with G-shocks and bling? More like obsessed with grinding and making a dollar out of 15 cents. It's pretty pitiful if you have nothing better to do with your life, but talk **** on a message board and act like a stalker. How does an email address make someone act tough? I dont have nothing to hide and since your a stalker you can check every single post I've had on this site please show me how I'm acting tough? I didnt know that mentioning a dummy can would make people act like donkies. Please if anyone has anything negative to say PM me so you can vent lol, instead of flooding the boards with useless drama.

JayBeeJay
05-07-2011, 6:10 AM
thats who I got mine from in Jan.
It took 30 days to get, which as I understand it isnt too bad

Nice, Valkyrie Arms are definately good people! Their customer service is great. I was there last week to start DROS and they said their having trouble getting the 17's right now and unless people on the list start flaking off it may take at least 6 months or more likely longer to get one.

21SF
05-07-2011, 7:11 AM
SCAR 17H

BostonFan
05-07-2011, 7:24 AM
Go SCAR IMO

I love seeing two grown men argue on the internet btw. Gets me rolling every time

cmace22
05-07-2011, 8:26 AM
Hmmmmmmmm

Little rude...... Unfortunately we live in a state where we cannot have what others can. So we can either build something close or pass all together because it may make the purists mad. I believe the MK18's were run with suppressors from time to time so visually besides the BB it should be accurate and if he moves to a free state he is a tax stamp and a pin removal away from having a CLOSER clone.

If you dont like like idea of a fake can, how about an MK18 pistol.......

Not mine!
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/cmace22/FMLBLeftd2.jpg

JayBeeJay
05-07-2011, 10:46 AM
That MK18 Mod 1 pistol is nice! Your comment about moving to a free state is exactly what I had in mind when thinking about using a 10.5" upper. I have a place in Vegas and may end up moving there in the future.

Steve1968LS2
05-07-2011, 11:30 AM
Wow, internet tough guy...

So the Cran Mk18 Mod O has a bullet button and a PERMANENTLY ATTACHED FAKE CAN? Sounds like a replica to me...

Actually you're the one that comes off as sort of a jerk.. and it seems to be habit in the way that you post.

Just an observation.. maybe try typing to people the way you would want to be talked to in person.

Just sayin :)

Steve1968LS2
05-07-2011, 11:33 AM
that being said, why don't you do what i did and order the mfi fake suppressor so that it is a shroud that covers up a 16" barrel? that way you get the looks of a 10.5" barrel with a suppressor on it but you also retain the better ballistics of a 16" barrel? it's the best of both worlds. a bonus to that approach is that if you ever want to change the build up, you won't be stuck with a perm attached 10.5" barrel. take off the shroud and you have a 16" barrel to build from.


Very good advice, since you're really just going for "a look".. This way you get the form without giving up the function.

send it_hit
05-07-2011, 12:09 PM
as an outsider looking in, it's a little old seeing mailman bully everyone's threads. my 2cents.

back to the actual issue at hand, it seems a scar would be better for you UNLESS you actually just enjoy building things... seems like no one's touched on that yet. if building them is your thing, you'll enjoy it just like youd enjoy a scar. good luck!!! :)

hnoppenberger
05-07-2011, 12:16 PM
if your going to do a fake can, at least get a 16 barrel and shroud it. no reason to make something that is 100% form over function. buy an airsoft version, to do that

QuarterBoreGunner
05-07-2011, 1:01 PM
So much bickering; children, play nice.

yellowfin
05-07-2011, 1:15 PM
Better idea still: do a dissipator upper. 16" that looks exactly like a 10.5" so you get the functionality of the first and the look of the second.

Mr.Caketown
05-07-2011, 2:00 PM
Scar16 or 17 IMO