PDA

View Full Version : Practice rifle for eventual service shooting?


orchard
05-06-2011, 4:27 PM
I would like to get proficient at shooting positions and using iron sights before I try service rifles at long ranges. Is a 22 a good idea, installing similar sights to a Garand?
Any suggestions or ideas are welcome.
I did try the search on the forums, but didn't find what I was looking for.

21SF
05-06-2011, 4:33 PM
how about a garand ? lol

8200rpm
05-06-2011, 4:39 PM
10/22, Tech Sights, USGI Web Sling + 1 weekend doing an Appleseed clinic.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/forumdisplay.php?f=222

Then, you'll be set up to buy a CMP M1 Garand and rock the High Power matches.

JPN6336
05-06-2011, 4:50 PM
Basic A2 style AR-15. 5.56 doesn't recoil as much as 30-06. You can train with the rifle and shoot service matches with it. Then upgrade it as you deem necessary as you get more experienced with the matches.

ZX-10R
05-06-2011, 4:54 PM
M4 clone...Why not start with what you are going to use?

2huntly
05-06-2011, 4:59 PM
As noted previously, Techsights on a 10/22 is a great way to go. My son and I are going to Appleseed next weekend. I'll be shooting a Techsight and he'll be shooting with a scope.

The California Golden Bears (http://www.goldenbears.org) has matches at Angeles ranges on the third Sunday, and these are shot at 100 yards. We also shoot at 200 yards on the fourth Saturday at Lopez Canyon. These matches simulate the longer distances through use of reduced size targets. It's a great way to get started, and this is how I got my start in Service Rifle. I've been at it less than a year.

I started with my Stag Upper and have been making a few upgrades over time. If you want to shoot a 10/22 with iron sights, we can also accomodate lowpower at 50 yards. It's a good way to get to learn the commands, the strings of fire, and the positions.

Feel free to stop by and observe and ask questions if you'd like. It's a great group and Tom, the Match Director, is a wealth of information and assistance. You'll be improving quickly. Looking forward to seeing you.

Mark

orchard
05-06-2011, 6:46 PM
I have a 1917 30.06 that was sporterized and given to me by my father-in-law years ago. I can shoot it well, but it has a scope, and is bolt action.

Father in law has NM Garand that was built for him when he was on Army marksman team at Fort Benning.

So my goal is the Garand - I'm proud of him and will be honored to get to shoot with him. One of those guys doesn't say much, but a few 600s, Silver star in Korea.

And he loves to go fishing!

Thanks for the suggestions - I'll sign up for an Appleseed. Ruger, Marlin, any others?

killshot44
05-06-2011, 8:04 PM
Basic A2 style AR-15. 5.56 doesn't recoil as much as 30-06. You can train with the rifle and shoot service matches with it. Then upgrade it as you deem necessary as you get more experienced with the matches.

This....Get a an AR with a flattop, add a GOOD carryhandle with the proper sight and you're set for practice and matches.

M4 clone...Why not start with what you are going to use?

Because Service Rifle rules only allow A2 configurations. AFIK.

Jonathan Doe
05-06-2011, 8:08 PM
Don't buy an Umarex M4 type rifles. Buy a OLL with a dedicated 22LR 20" A2 upper and shoot at 50 yards. It will be a good practice for you. If you become good with it, you will pick up high power very quick. If you want a serious 22LR upper with the top quality, Compass Lake Engineering makes those 22LR uppers with Krieger or Douglas premiun barrels. They run about $1,100 though.

popeye4
05-06-2011, 9:24 PM
As one post mentioned, the 10/22 with the Tech Sights (http://www.tech-sights.com/) is a good way to start. Cheap to set up, cheap to shoot, no recoil, you can shoot at short ranges, and you get used to the sight picture. CMP also has some (relatively) inexpensive air rifles (http://www.thecmp.org/airrifles.htm) and you can shoot these in a hallway (if the family agrees). Of course, if money is no object, you can get the Creedmoor Sports AiR-15 (http://www.creedmoorsports.com/store/product.php?productid=889516&cat=558&page=1). It costs more than a fully dressed AR-15 service rifle, but for the shooter who has everything.....

If you want to get into highpower, going the AR route is probably the best choice. You can get a "ready to compete" rifle for about $1500 (http://www.northerncompetition.com/Northern%20Competition%202011.pdf). If you want to shoot the CMP Garand matches, you'll need an as-issued Garand (no NM mods or glass bedding) and you can get that from CMP. I'd get one anyways, because they aren't going to have them forever.

Highpower is a lot of fun. You can go on the CMP web page and find an affiliated club in your area, most have "new shooter" days and are quite happy to bring new blood into the game. Most experienced shooters are more than happy to help you out if you ask.

762.DEFENSE
05-06-2011, 9:31 PM
Go with an AR-22. Cheap ammo, practically the exact M4 you'll be using, and all you have to do is switch the upper and you can shoot .223/556 as much as your heart desires!

orchard
05-06-2011, 10:12 PM
Thanks for all the help.
I had plenty of black rifle shooting in the Army with M16.

I like the old school, and hope to someday put one in the x at 1000 yards.