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annie c. oakley
05-05-2011, 5:30 PM
Is a 1975 Colt .22lr/.22mag New Frontier CA legal?
Thank you in advance for your insight
Anne

Baconator
05-05-2011, 5:34 PM
What do you mean by Cali legal?

ke6guj
05-05-2011, 5:53 PM
Is a 1975 Colt .22lr/.22mag New Frontier CA legal?
Thank you in advance for your insight
Anne

run it through the handgun flowchart and it'll tell you if it is legal to possess in CA, http://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf

Cokebottle
05-05-2011, 5:58 PM
There is a difference between "legal" and "on the roster"

Many people believe that if a gun is not listed on the roster, that it is illegal. This is not the case. You can't buy one from a dealer, but you can buy one from a private party, or bring one with you if you move to California from a free state.

"Legal" would be the assault weapon and SBS/SBR/AOW laws that ke6guj linked to.

annie c. oakley
05-05-2011, 6:09 PM
I was wondering if a 1975 Colt .22 New Frontier is CA legal? I was looking to purchase one off of GunBroker.
Thank you
Anne

laika
05-05-2011, 6:24 PM
As I read the charts it is.

Just my two cents though.

annie c. oakley
05-05-2011, 6:33 PM
Thank you for the clarification
Anne

Cokebottle
05-05-2011, 6:37 PM
GunBroker is a no-go.

The only Colts that are currently on the roster are a .357 and a few .45ACP. No .22lr are listed on the roster.

Your only way to get one is to buy one private party from someone in California who can meet you at your local FFL.
http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

No, it's not illegal, but it is off-roster and can't be bought from a dealer.

tzahoy
05-05-2011, 6:40 PM
It is legal to possess, but it is not on the roster of safe handguns, nor is it on the olympic exempt list. You can purchase it via a face to face private party transfer where both buyer and seller are present at the FFL doing the transfer. You cannot have it shipped from a seller to an FFL to do the transfer.

smokinjohn
05-05-2011, 6:45 PM
The Colt in question is a single action revolver and is exempt from the Roster.

smokinjohn

annie c. oakley
05-05-2011, 7:03 PM
Wow
Thank you all for you efforts...You all make very convincing and logical points. I am however more confused than before...How did buying a 35+ year old single action .22 revolver get sooooooo complicated?
Thank you
Anne

ke6guj
05-05-2011, 7:14 PM
what makes it confusing is that there are two laws in play in your situation.

First is, is it legal to possess the handgun in CA? The flowchart deals with that.

The second is, is it legal for an FFL to transfer the handgun to you in CA? With this, you have to look at the Roster, or determine if the handgun is roster exempt.

tonelar
05-05-2011, 7:14 PM
OP,

The reason you're getting so many different answers is because there're some who don't recognize the new frontier colt revolver. Its a rimfire version of the single action army. There's a whole group of wheelguns that are exempt as long as they are single actions.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_abaJ0xbRju4/SuQ_DDcOhcI/AAAAAAAAB8Y/1tNfsKPExJE/s400/Colt+New+Frontier+22+Caliber+Single+Action+Revolve r-1a.jpg
As long as its barrel is over 3" the Colt your looking at is exempt because its a SAA variant. So to answer your question;
YES it's legal for you to buy it. Great choice, by the way.

annie c. oakley
05-05-2011, 7:16 PM
Thank you Jack and Tony
What defines a handgun as Roster exempt?

ke6guj
05-05-2011, 7:23 PM
there are a couple exemptions to the roster.

12125. (a) Commencing January 1, 2001, any person in this state who manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state for sale, keeps for sale, offers or exposes for sale, gives, or lends any unsafe handgun shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year.
(b) This section shall not apply to any of the following:
(3) Firearms listed as curios or relics, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.

12132. This chapter shall not apply to any of the following:
(g) The sale, loan, or transfer of any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person listed as a curio or relic, as defined in Section 178.11 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
(h)(1) The Legislature finds a significant public purpose in exempting pistols that are designed expressly for use in Olympic target shooting events. Therefore, those pistols that are sanctioned by the International Olympic Committee and by USA Shooting, the national governing body for international shooting competition in the United States, and that are used for Olympic target shooting purposes at the time that the act adding this subdivision is enacted, and that fall within the definition of "unsafe handgun" pursuant to paragraph (3) of subdivision (b) of Section 12126 shall be exempt, as provided in paragraphs (2) and (3). (2) This chapter shall not apply to any of the following pistols, because they are consistent with the significant public purpose expressed in paragraph (1):
MANUFACTURER MODEL CALIBER
ANSCHUTZ FP .22LR
BENELLI MP90 .22LR
BENELLI MP90 .32 S&W LONG
BENELLI MP95 .22LR
BENELLI MP95 .32 S&W LONG
DRULOV FP .22LR
GREEN ELECTROARM .22LR
HAMMERLI 100 .22LR
HAMMERLI 101 .22LR
HAMMERLI 102 .22LR
HAMMERLI 162 .22LR
HAMMERLI 280 .22LR
HAMMERLI 280 .32 S&W LONG
HAMMERLI FP10 .22LR
HAMMERLI MP33 .22LR
HAMMERLI SP20 .22LR
HAMMERLI SP20 .32 S&W LONG
MORINI CM102E .22LR
MORINI 22M .22LR
MORINI 32M .32 S&W LONG
MORINI CM80 .22LR
PARDINI GP .22 SHORT
PARDINI GPO .22 SHORT
PARDINI GP-SCHUMANN .22 SHORT
PARDINI HP .32 S&W LONG
PARDINI K22 .22LR
PARDINI MP .32 S&W LONG
PARDINI PGP75 .22LR
PARDINI SP .22LR
PARDINI SPE .22LR
SAKO FINMASTER .22LR
STEYR FP .22LR
VOSTOK IZH NO. 1 .22LR
VOSTOK MU55 .22LR
VOSTOK TOZ35 .22LR
WALTHER FP .22LR
WALTHER GSP .22LR
WALTHER GSP .32 S&W LONG
WALTHER OSP .22 SHORT
WALTHER OSP-2000 .22 SHORT



12133.
(a) The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to a single-action revolver that has at least a 5-cartridge capacity with a barrel length of not less than three inches, and meets any of the following specifications:
(1) Was originally manufactured prior to 1900 and is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
(2) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least 7 1/2 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled.
(3) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least 7 1/2 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled and that is currently approved for importation into the United States pursuant to the provisions of paragraph (3) of subsection (d) of Section 925 of Title 18 of the United States Code.
(b) The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to a single-shot pistol with a barrel length of not less than six inches and that has an overall length of at least 10 1/2 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled.




In your case, it is 12133(a) that would exempt that handgun.

annie c. oakley
05-05-2011, 7:35 PM
Why thank you Jack...you have provided irrefutable and compelling information. Looks like the kids are getting a .22 Colt
Thank you again for your time and expertise
Anne