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Bluhdow!
05-03-2011, 10:11 AM
So here's the deal:

I've already got a shotgun, AK, and .22lr plinker and it's time for me to add a pistol to the mix. Main purpose would be HD and plinking.

I'm not a huge handgun guy so I don't want to break the bank on a pistol. Looking to spend around $500 all-in. I'd like a full sized .40 cal and Taurus seems to be reasonably priced and I've had good experiences with them in the past.

Looks like my best option could be the Model 100. However, for an extra $50-$75 it looks like I could step up to their 1911 model.

I like the feel of both but love the look of the 1911s. I know it's not a Kimber, but it's still potentially a better option than the 100 for marginally more money.

Let me know your thoughts and/or alternative suggestions. I know Taurus has had mixed reviews in the past, but as I mentioned I've had pretty good experiences with them.

Thank you for your input.

timmyb21
05-03-2011, 10:16 AM
The Taurus semi autos have a bad reputation for failure. I don't know how their 1911's are. In my opinion you should look at the Smith and Wesson M&P .40. They can be had very close to $500 and they're great. Just look around for a deal.

Bluhdow!
05-03-2011, 11:09 AM
I'd like to stick to the Stainless Steel options. I just hate the look/feel of the "plastic" guns...so no Glocks for me.

Bluhdow!
05-03-2011, 9:38 PM
No love on this thread? Come on, looking for feedback on the Taurus 1911s and 100s.

Which would you go with knowing that cost is marginally greater on the 1911?

joelj320
05-03-2011, 9:44 PM
I have a Taurus 24/7 O.S.S. in. 40 s&w. It is a great gun and haven't had a single problem. Taurus gets a bad rap but have yet to personally see it.

InGrAM
05-03-2011, 9:50 PM
I would get the 100 or 92 because of It's D/A feature. I find that a DA gun is better for HD. I don't like SA for HD. But I LOVE my 1911's.

I had a friend that I used to work with that shot competitively and he put 10,000 + rounds through his early 90s Taurus 92. Good guns as far as I am concerned.

I am getting a pt92 in a few weeks, Quite excited :)

Cyc Wid It
05-03-2011, 10:05 PM
If you're getting a 1911, pick something better than the 2 makers you listed.

Bluhdow!
05-04-2011, 6:44 AM
Well, that's part of my thought process. Why is Taurus' 1911 so cheap relative to most others? Is it a difficult gun to manufacture, so they do it cheaply? Cheaper parts? I'm suspicious of what appears to be a great deal.

The 100 is also cheap relative to sigs and a few others, but I feel that may be more brand-related.

Old4eyes
05-04-2011, 7:18 AM
Get onto the Taurusarmed.net site and then register. When you register, you are then allowed to see the complaint section. It's HUGE. And I wish that I had done that before I bought my Taurus Tracker.

My out of the box experience was real bad. The gun was potentially dangerous to operate and should not have left the factory. It took two trips back to get it right. The shop had two other Trackers, all had severe problems. When the shop owner confronted Taurus reps about this problem, they basically blew him off. He stopped carrying their line.

It is a shame, they have some interesting designs but their reliability is suspect. My Tracker is working now, but I don't trust it for HD. It's a range toy. And I am constantly checking the lockup on it while shooting, just to make sure the repair is still working.

1911Operator
05-04-2011, 7:27 AM
Taurus 1911's are off roster, and not too many ppl are gonna to go out of their way to get one, much less since its a Taurus! but, I do have a pt145 and for me, so far its been pretty reliable.

robcoe
05-04-2011, 7:55 AM
for a general defensive gun I would look away from the Taurus, I know 5 people with them, and 4 have had to ship them back to the manufacturer for defects/failures.

For a basic defensive/plinking gun in that price range, I would look at Rugers P series(for an all metal gun) and SR series(for a polymer gun, actually they are the only polymer guns I have shot that I like). Not the prettiest or sleekest guns in the world, but they always work and it's unlikely you will ever break them.

Also in the same price range are the CZ guns(both polymer and metal frames), these are very nice guns for the money and I know they make a metal frame full size .40 caliber version of the gun.

EDIT: found the listing for it from the roster CZ 75B (Black) 01120 / Steel Pistol 4.58" .40 S&W 12/31/2011

2ND EDIT: as was said below, for a cheap 1911 get an RIA.

hefedehefe
05-04-2011, 8:10 AM
The Taurus 911 in stainless with mother of pearl grips or the 92 with mop grips:drool5:

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa44/smoothinoc/TI911049PRL_1.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa44/smoothinoc/20263-1.jpg

ArkinDomino
05-04-2011, 9:41 AM
The best option for a Taurus is not having a Taurus.

J.D.Allen
05-04-2011, 10:46 AM
PT 96. Reliable. Better than their 1911's

Rekrab
05-04-2011, 11:00 AM
For a cheap 1911 you'd be WAY better off buying a Rock Island.

timmyb21
05-04-2011, 11:21 AM
For a cheap 1911 you'd be WAY better off buying a Rock Island.

I was just gonna say, don't like plastic? If you're willing to go .45 instead of .40 (price difference for ammo is negligible) an RIA 1911 or even a Springfield GI or Mil Spec if you shop around.

I don't want to badmouth Taurus, but I own a model 608 and it hardly comes out of the safe anymore. Needs to go back to Taurus (again) for light hammer strikes. I sent it in once and they said it just needed to be cleaned correctly (implying that I was doing it wrong) so they did that and sent it back. Same problems. That and it was gone for 8 weeks. I'd sell it but my wife doesn't want me to, she loves it, mostly for the looks. It's a BIG gun.

Bluhdow!
05-04-2011, 11:57 AM
Well, looks like Taurus is out then.

Thank you for the feedback. I'll be looking at the options you've all mentioned.

InGrAM
05-04-2011, 1:11 PM
Well, looks like Taurus is out then.

Thank you for the feedback. I'll be looking at the options you've all mentioned.

If you get a 100 or 92 series Taurus you will be fine. They use Beretta machines to make their pistols.

But like someone said earlier, If you want a cheap 1911 get an RIA.

JeremyS
05-04-2011, 3:04 PM
Can't go wrong w/ a CZ. Many options in your price range: http://czcustom.com/cz-ub-usa-factory-pistols.aspx

...I'd figure out how much HD vs. plinking you're going to be doing, because the price difference between 9mm and .40 is pretty darn big. I went w/ 9mm since I have a shotgun for HD, and I can shoot a good 50% more 9mm vs .40 for the same $$$...

TheDeej
05-04-2011, 5:11 PM
Could get a nice revolver in that price range...

BruceR
05-04-2011, 5:14 PM
I have a PT140 Millenium Pro, 3rd generation. As with any product, the early Milleniums had their share of problems but, with the early bugs worked out, it's now a reliable handgun.

For the .45ACP, I'd consider both the PT145 and the RIA 1911's. But the PT140 is a keeper for me.

Midian
05-04-2011, 5:16 PM
My PT 1911 is an awesome gun. Everyone who shoots it loves it. Easts anything I feed it.

CessnaDriver
05-04-2011, 5:24 PM
One of my first handguns was a Taurus.
A 1987 PT-99, never had issues.

choprzrul
05-04-2011, 5:42 PM
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac214/choprzrul/IMAG0256.jpg

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac214/choprzrul/ccw4.jpg

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac214/choprzrul/911-2.jpg

My PT911 has always ran just fine with factory ammo. Even did a 4 day @ Front Sight with it and then my wife used it for a 2 day skill builder. The last photo gives you a size comparison next to my 92fs.

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Bigtwin
05-04-2011, 6:44 PM
I love my Taurus model 66 revolver, has worked flawless for over 2000 rounds.....I have heard that the semi auto's are questionable(I can't prove that). Rock Island has had many great reviews and few complaints for their 1911's on this forum.

LBDamned
05-04-2011, 7:28 PM
I have a Taurus 24/7 O.S.S. in. 40 s&w. It is a great gun and haven't had a single problem. Taurus gets a bad rap but have yet to personally see it.

+1 for the 24/7... I have .40 too (but it's a Pro DS), one of my favorite feeling guns - ergonomics cant be beat imo. It's a fine pistol + NRA hanggun of the year when it came out.

I did a boatload of research prior to purchase and yes Taurus has some negative feedback, but vast majority that own them have good things to say.

I will say however, their customer service is HORRIBLE!!! A bunch of *****s! There is a CA version and I wanted to know how it was different... maybe it was the fact that I live in CA (okay fair enough, it pisses me off too), but damn I'm a customer! The douchbaf actually asked me if I was DOJ:rolleyes: I let him know I was an interested customer, but dont feel valued.

Anyway - 24/7 is a nice pistol - I never did find out how the CA version is different because I was able to get a DS.

I also have an M&P, which is a great choice too. I actually like them both more than my USP .40c

As for 1911... I have no idea, but from all that I researched the 24/7 is one of the few Taurus that has a lot of positive feedback.