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Martel
05-02-2011, 10:00 AM
The Federal is the least expensive of the two ($10.47 50rds. vs $13.47 50rds.). Which would you all prefer for target duty? Gun is Glock 17.

sniper4usmc
05-02-2011, 10:02 AM
I prefer PMC, S&B over Federal and WWB

Kodemonkey
05-02-2011, 10:05 AM
Glocks tend to eat almost anything. I like the WWB because it takes up less room in the safe and feeds just fine in my HK USP. I actually don't like UMC, it seems dirtier (but is cheaper than WWB in the 250 round "shooters pack").

CarlozRossi
05-02-2011, 10:12 AM
I get WWB because they never have Federal in stock. Federal does seem to have more muzzle flash than WWB even though WWB is dirtier.

I'm pretty certain glocks will eat anything you feed it. I, and some people I've talked to, have had some light powder loads in WWB so beware of that.

triplestack3
05-02-2011, 10:12 AM
Glock eats just about anything.

It was on a steady diet of federal for a long time. If that wasn't around, UMC 250ct. value pack stuff shot just fine. WWB shoots well too. I have been shorted once or twice on a box of WWB. Hasn't happened with Fed or UMC - always a full tray. I just run reloads through it now and those are fine too.

Sam
05-02-2011, 10:14 AM
I tend to get WWB as it's a little hotter (and so more closely replicates my defensive rounds) than Federal Champion.

sanjosebmx
05-02-2011, 10:15 AM
I've been shooting WWB (about 800 rounds) with not one problem

ArkinDomino
05-02-2011, 10:17 AM
Apparently WWB will KB your glock!:willy_nilly:

BANGBANG_SKEETSKEET
05-02-2011, 10:18 AM
The UMC feels softer shooting than the Federal. A lot of the time Wal Mart is sold out of the UMC 250 boxes so I shoot more Federal. Both are G2G (especially in a GLOCK!)

paul0660
05-02-2011, 10:18 AM
Uh...........the cheaper. The Federal is also more reliable. I had a failure to fire with WWB about 5 years ago, a .1% failure rate. The Federal has been perfect. I like sniper's brands better too, and sometimes you can find those online for about the same price, to the door.

Quickdraw Mcgraw
05-02-2011, 10:20 AM
Apparently WWB will KB your glock!:willy_nilly:

:bofud:

Joe
05-02-2011, 10:25 AM
Get federal. Its cheaper

YourHuckleberry
05-02-2011, 10:28 AM
I've had 6 failure to fire with white box from wallyworld in the last 8 months. All the federal has gone bang. I cannot attest to the validity but I have heard from others while waiting for service at wallyworld that they had failures with whitebox as well. I seem to remember a thread here about the fact that QA/QC has been an issue with Winchester ammo as of late, but couldn't find it with a search.

G60
05-02-2011, 10:29 AM
federal or UMC.

even if they didn't have either of those two in stock, i'd never pay the premium for WWB.

HK35
05-02-2011, 10:44 AM
I used to shoot Federal but had a big issue with one cartidge that got badly stuck in my gun. It was a squib, primer went bang but no powder; it sucked the bullet in and jammed my gun. We could not pull the slide back so we had to tap the bullet out from the muzzle end - not fun!

The_Tinman
05-02-2011, 11:05 AM
I shoot fed, wwb and yellow umc interchangeably and haven't had a problem with any. I clean all of my guns after each range trip so one brand being dirtier hasn't bothered me yet. if your just going to plink, get what your budget affords, if your trying to get ammo to train with to save your SD ammo, I'd recommend getting a SD ammo that offers fmj training rounds at an affordable price.

ninjawho?
05-02-2011, 11:07 AM
Get the remingtom

tangent
05-02-2011, 11:09 AM
Federal!

Ultimate
05-02-2011, 11:51 AM
I go with the cheapest but I will say i prefer WWB because they are usually 100 loose rounds and so they take up less space than the ones in the round trays. Also there is usually 1 extra round in those packs.:D

kazman
05-02-2011, 11:55 AM
Whatever is available but if they have both get the cheapest for range use.

5.56Geo
05-02-2011, 11:58 AM
Your G17 will even eat Tula for $9 a box. I use both in my G19 with no problems ;).

HPGunner
05-02-2011, 12:03 PM
For Glock, just go with the cheaper option. Actually for any gun go with the cheaper Federal, WWB isn't any better for the extra $

MaHoTex
05-02-2011, 12:33 PM
I was buying the federals by the truckload. No probs at all. Not so much anymore since I am reloading.

Bulleh
05-02-2011, 1:13 PM
I haven't had problems with either brand and I buy them/shoot frequently.

golfrj
05-02-2011, 1:21 PM
The Federal is the least expensive of the two ($10.47 50rds. vs $13.47 50rds.). Which would you all prefer for target duty? Gun is Glock 17.

You don't say where your located But I use Ammo Bros 9mm FMJ reloads for target, clean, soft, and never a problem.. AND about $80 per 500.. Great Deal..

shinnee
05-02-2011, 1:23 PM
i bought both, couldnt tell the difference in my 92fs so i am only going to buy the cheaper federal from now on assuming i cant get reloads at the time. i was short 1 out of 300 of wwb

giants_fan24
05-02-2011, 1:45 PM
I have 3 Glocks now and it don't matter they eat anything, go with the cheaper federal and save the money

Buddhabelly
05-02-2011, 2:32 PM
Like many here have said, Glocks will eat anything. Buy the cheapest you can find and go shoot.

nimbus
05-02-2011, 2:47 PM
Federal. My g17 loves them. Plus it's cheaper. Can't go wrong with that combo.

Martel
05-02-2011, 3:18 PM
Thanks to all. Seems the Federal ain't all that bad, and a $3.00 savings per box is a big deal for me.

jkody
05-02-2011, 3:47 PM
I have 3 Glocks and use wwb only, most of it being from walmart. I have shot somewhere around 5000 rounds of it through my glocks in the last 3 years with no problems.

Ding126
05-02-2011, 4:17 PM
9mm for target shooting = the cheapest between Federal, WWB & UMC..I prefer Federal WWB & UMC in that order

rromeo
05-02-2011, 4:19 PM
I buy the Federal 45 for my G30.

IPSICK
05-02-2011, 4:58 PM
Whichever is available and/or cheaper.

+1 Rem UMC is dirty.

Hopalong
05-02-2011, 5:52 PM
I use the Federal

No problema

Guys at the range fight over the brass

Jack L
05-02-2011, 5:57 PM
The Federal is the least expensive of the two ($10.47 50rds. vs $13.47 50rds.). Which would you all prefer for target duty? Gun is Glock 17.

They always have the 100 round box of Winchester 9mm for $22 and that's what I use. Seems to work fine except for one bogus damaged round I found once.

glock7
05-02-2011, 6:19 PM
Both... Federal is cheaper, but my Wally world is out of federal so I'm buying up the wwb and umc mega packs. Not a problem with any of them, although umc is dirty. No biggie...I like the smell of hoppes!

chim-chim7
05-02-2011, 6:35 PM
Dude its all crappy plinking ammo. Go with what's cheaper. Your gun wont care and accuracy will be about the same at sub-par.

c483125117
05-02-2011, 6:52 PM
Whatever is cheapest and in stock. Usually that's WWB for me.

Chuck67
05-02-2011, 8:30 PM
My G17 & 26 eat them both up with no problems. I've bought a mixture of about 600 rounds from the both & I have not had any problems.

kln5
05-02-2011, 9:05 PM
I am currently shooting the federal for the lone reason of price. I shoot them out of my G17 no problem. It eats everything I feed it.

Vulture
05-02-2011, 9:59 PM
I prefer the WWB and have a couple on hand. Always goes bang...

That said, all of the above is fine for range use imho.

tbhracing
05-03-2011, 12:26 AM
My two stock Glocks (17 and !9) have only FTE a couple times with WWB. WWB is the last FMJ bullet for my pistols.

The Cable Guy
05-03-2011, 12:47 AM
I go with the cheaper, Federal.

plankowner
05-03-2011, 5:26 AM
I use the federal for my Glock 23 and for my Beretta

evidens83
05-03-2011, 7:52 AM
Whichever is cheaper and in stock. Which usually means the WWB. I would buy the Federal first though...

stix213
05-03-2011, 9:37 AM
I buy brown bear or wolf off the interwebs for my 9mm Glocks. Usually about $8.50 + shipping per box of 50. Thousands of rounds with no problems. Glocks like it dirty :D

JayCo
05-03-2011, 9:50 AM
I was at the vacaville wally 2 weeks ago and my buddy picked up the WWB 100 rd pack for 22 bucks....thats the cheapest I seen.

navy_doc1
05-03-2011, 10:25 AM
I used Federal and UMC for my G19 with no problem

energizer
05-03-2011, 11:25 AM
Federal, no issues

jayhuh
05-03-2011, 6:21 PM
I've shot close to 10K rounds of WWB value pak ammo through a combo of Glocks, Sigs and HKs. Never had any problems. I've been using Federal lately and it seems to shoot a little softer, which I percieve to be lightly loaded, but cannot substantiate because I have not shot them thru a chrono. But after about 1500 rounds they have all gone bang and I shoot them as accurate as the Winchester stuff. The Federal bullets look like they might be plated (IE thinner jacket) as opposed to the Winchester stuff which are classic FMJ. I think I've read the same on another forum.

Additionally, the Federal was causing some problems with the original Gen4 9mm Glocks which were sprung a little heavier than the Gen 3 guns, which gives some creadence to my assertion that they are loaded a little lighter. Just my ramblings.... I have a newer Gen4 19 that has never had any issues with Federal though, but the ejection is a little weak and the empties land at my feet.

Just-in
05-03-2011, 7:05 PM
I usually buy the federal for my G17. I notice no diff in accuracy but one that left a bad taste in my mouth was the remington in green box. Maybe big5 just sold me some old stuff or something though.

jw112
05-04-2011, 12:57 PM
i use UMC, WWB, and Federal 9mm in from walmart in my g19. i have not had problems with any of them. Federal seems like a slightly lighter load and is cheap when you can find it

Mr.1904
05-04-2011, 1:03 PM
Federal

bombadillo
05-04-2011, 1:11 PM
WWB or PMC 9mm have been super consistent for me.

honeywalnutshrimp
05-04-2011, 1:17 PM
My walmart lately has been having tullammo in stock and I don't reload and my beretta and ria shoots this stuff perfectly can't beat 12 bucks a box for 40s and 14 bucks for 45s.. I just make sure to clean my weapons after shooting everytime..

However between the two since the 1dollar price increase in federals the wwb 100 round value pack is the best price.. Unless the umc 250round box is in stock

Patriot Man
05-05-2011, 5:55 PM
Federal. Never had a problem.

darmog
05-05-2011, 9:14 PM
I've shot a combination 2500 rds of Federal, WWB and UMC in my XDM9. Haven't had any failures to fire or eject, but could've had one with the WWB. I always inspect the ammo I buy as soon I get it home for any defects after reading how people were getting some bullet setbacks with the UMC stuff. So, I've been making it a habit of pulling out the cases to do a quick check making sure they are all the same height, no backwards primers, etc.
One round from the WWB I had one day had the bullet pushed way into the cartridge at a wrong angle. The casing was crushed with the bullet completely visible on one side. The was no or very little powder either because the crack in the casing left a big enough hole for all the powder to leak out.

shooterdude
05-06-2011, 7:50 AM
The cheapest right now is the 250 round pack of UMC for $52. The Federal is $10.50 for 50 rounds. The WWB is $23 for 100. I always buy whatever is cheapest and available. It all works great in all of my 9mm pistols. If they had Tula available at my Walmart and it's cheaper I would buy that. I don't care about dirty ammo, I clean my guns every other range trip or after each trip If I shoot a lot during that session.

I don't understand why people are so snobby about cheap plinking ammo especially when its new manufacture from well known brands.

bombadillo
05-06-2011, 7:53 AM
Or you could support one of our local vendors through www.rmammo.com who gives 9mm BVAC reloads all in brass mind you, for around $199 and a few bucks to ship. He's great, stand up guy who fought for us with the AB962 bill and stood by till the last days. He will always get my business when he can.

thomasanelson
05-06-2011, 9:00 AM
Lower price = more ammo. Simple!

iron330
05-06-2011, 12:05 PM
First 100 rounds of Federal from Walmart with a brand new Glock 17. No hiccups whatsoever. Except getting that 10th round in the mag was sort of a beotch.

MontClaire
05-06-2011, 12:08 PM
I shot same winchester white box from walmart in 100's but in .45AUTO. It was dirtier and more clowd than federal rounds from same shelf.