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SpeedTribe
11-24-2006, 9:12 PM
I finally got around to making some stock prototypes. Been away from the forum for a while and haven't see anything like them yet.

Two questions:
First, do you think these meet the requirements (you know what they are)
Second, Do you like the way they look? May start selling some better finished units.
Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
(And yes, this rifle is still in its fixed mag config)

These are solid one piece Walnut.
You will notice some have a little bit of wood behind the buffer tube and some don't. Mainly just for looks.
All are extremely stiff and strong since it attaches to the buffer tube(via the pad, which is pretty solid) and to where the grip goes.

First one is an unfinished FullSize
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/FullStock.jpg

Next is a Midsize in Dark Walnut stain...
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/MidSize1.jpg

Finally, Two small versions..one with the wood behind the buffer tube and one without
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/SmallStockExt1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/SmallNoExt.jpg

cornholio1
11-24-2006, 9:16 PM
Better in black..try black

SpeedTribe
11-24-2006, 9:26 PM
Outta black and in a hurry.
Liked the contrast on the Walther WA2000 so I thought I would try it with what I had.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/walther-wa2000-1.jpg

Just thought I would see what folks thought about them in general.
Thanks for the feedback though.

Richard
11-24-2006, 9:55 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ro1964/SmallNoExt.jpg

I like this shape better ,definitely in black.....and I'd lose the Mag pull....FWIW

juha_teuvonnen
11-24-2006, 9:57 PM
No offence, but I'd do the flw:

1. Loose the recoil buffer tube, go with a gas piston.
2. Make it resemble a traditional rifle stock that attaches where the pistol grip used to be
3. Make it compliant with CA DOJ's definition of "no pistol grip".

SpeedTribe
11-24-2006, 10:28 PM
No offense taken! We all feed off of each others ideas to hopefully come up with a good solution to these illogical regulations.
A few points:
1. Loose the recoil buffer tube, go with a gas piston.

Gas piston upper (POF) still requires a buffer tube. YHM and Oly do not but WAY too expensive.

2. Make it resemble a traditional rifle stock that attaches where the pistol grip used to be

I do have one that is a little more like a standard rifle stock, just goes straight back but the lower portion of my hand felt a little empty.
Still tweaking the angles for the whole bottom portion.

3. Make it compliant with CA DOJ's definition of "no pistol grip".

I believe these do fit the definition of "no pistol grip. You have to keep your thumb on the right side.

Tried the stubbier area where the PG would go. Couldn't get a good hold on it.

A little trick...The Magpul isn't just for looks. It keeps the mag from bashing the upper when flipped open for loading.

Keep the feedback and ideas coming folks!

dwtt
11-24-2006, 11:02 PM
No offence, but I'd do the flw:

1. Loose the recoil buffer tube, go with a gas piston.
2. Make it resemble a traditional rifle stock that attaches where the pistol grip used to be
3. Make it compliant with CA DOJ's definition of "no pistol grip".
Uhhh.. what you are describing has been done already. It's supposed to go into production next year. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=41640&page=2

As for the walnut stock, I like the dark stained walnut with the cutout shown in the midlength model.

FatKatMatt
11-25-2006, 12:49 AM
I like it, I think you should make a wood handgaurd to go with it as well, that would make an awesome little gun. I'd buy it if I had the black rifle disease.

gonzo
11-25-2006, 1:18 AM
What about something like this (exuse the crappy paint)
More like a tradditional riflestock and it encases the buffer tube instead of leaving it exposed.

A hole on the top of the stock with the dimensions of buffer tube thus allowing the rifle stock to be slid on and screwed into the psitol grip area. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2046&stc=1&d=1164446272

Q
11-25-2006, 6:47 AM
cool another stock! :D i like the fullsize shape better. top two than the bottow two. to me wood looks more sporty and has more class to it. i am still waiting to see one with the check rest in wood.so not buffertube can be seen.

paradox
11-25-2006, 7:54 AM
Nice stock. I'd do a bit more sanding to lighten it a bit. Of the ones you posted, I like the midsize myself. It would be nice to have the buffer tube enclosed, but you'll probably have to make it out of a laminate to have the proper strength. Here is my photoshop bastardization from the peanut gallery:

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5615/woodarphotoshopsj9.jpg

Q
11-25-2006, 9:26 AM
now that i looked at the bottom two stocks for a bit. i like that profile as well. it reminds me of a ps90 stock with a few cuts different.

jumbopanda
11-25-2006, 1:30 PM
Would look better if you made cut some grooves in the side. Would also make it lighter.

SpeedTribe
11-25-2006, 6:45 PM
Got a chance to refinish one of the shorty stocks today and to photoshop my woodgrain midsize stock.
Since most folks like the tactical look...

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/ShortSideBlack.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/SmallTabRear.jpg

or for the "I sure wish it had a cheekpiece option" crowd..
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/ShortWithCAA2.jpg

Photoshop of a Black Midsize version
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/BlackMidSize1.jpg

Mag_Rat
11-25-2006, 8:23 PM
nice...but I would make something like this
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b249/Ordnance/SmallNoExt.png

SpeedTribe
11-25-2006, 8:45 PM
That could be done easy enough.
I wanted to keep the middle section a little bulky at first with the optiion to remove some later. You can't put wood back:)
Also, not sure how much stress is actually going to hit that skinny middle section. Guess I'll find out next weekend...hopefully not the hard way.

ghost
11-26-2006, 11:31 PM
Got a chance to refinish one of the shorty stocks today and to photoshop my woodgrain midsize stock.
Since most folks like the tactical look...

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/ShortSideBlack.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/SmallTabRear.jpg

or for the "I sure wish it had a cheekpiece option" crowd..
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/ShortWithCAA2.jpg

Photoshop of a Black Midsize version
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/BlackMidSize1.jpg
i`m interested in that black finish midsize version.let me know when i can buy one from you.

SpeedTribe
12-16-2006, 11:22 PM
Time to break this one in...I am working on the CAD and may be getting something along these lines made to sell. The quality of the U-15 has set the bar pretty high. I am just not a fan of its appearance.
The final version will of course look better than this prototype and MAY include mag storage.:) Also working on one for the XCR since they seem interested in CA now. Should be easier since no buffer tube is needed.
Anyway...PICS
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/StockIOR_POF2.jpg
Yeah, that is the new Timney/POF trigger from heaven:D
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/SPEEDTRIBE/StockIOR_POF.jpg