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resident-shooter
04-30-2011, 12:33 PM
I was thinking recently; is it enough to have 15+1 rds in a handgun next to the bed, ready to go? Or should I keep an extra mag... Well extra is always good, but then it would take up the other hand. I mean you don't always get a chance to put on the pants with pickets that you can put the extra mag into.... So do you think its a good idea to keep an extra mag next to the bed, or just stuff the handgun with whatever it can take and keep it read to roll?

PS: I don't need stupid answers like oh you need an M60 or get this underwear with mag puches. Be real.

Baconator
04-30-2011, 12:35 PM
33 rounder in the glock 9mm ftw

ETA: Better to have all you need in the event that you can't easily get to more.

resident-shooter
04-30-2011, 12:36 PM
Glock does not have an external hammer. It must be racked...I keep a round in the chamber.

CpuFixrMan
04-30-2011, 12:41 PM
First off, I'm less likely to go towards the source of threat as I am away from it, so, worrying about putting on pants is less of an issue. Having that extra mag nearby, as I take up a defensive position in the bedroom is more what I would want. If they are in the house, I'll call 911, then get behind cover. If they enter the bedroom, through a locked door, all bets are off.

BOFH
04-30-2011, 12:41 PM
I have a XD in our bedroom with two extra loaded mags. Can't imagine needing them..but it does not hurt to have them. Options are good.

BigDogatPlay
04-30-2011, 12:47 PM
Never hurts to have more ammo available. If your plan includes possibly hunkering down then having an extra mag stashed at that spot makes a lot of sense. It's better to have it available and not need it than the other way around.

Exile Machine
04-30-2011, 12:48 PM
33 rounder in the glock 9mm ftw

This is the best plan for HD, next to the 12ga pump shotgun of course. We have a few of these "assault clips" in stock (https://www.exilemachine.net/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3_63_78&products_id=796) too. :43:

mlevans66
04-30-2011, 12:49 PM
Always have two mags loaded, killa.

Baconator
04-30-2011, 12:53 PM
Glock does not have an external hammer. It must be racked...I keep a round in the chamber.

I have the belief that if I am to always treat my gun as loaded, then it might as well be loaded. My Glock is loaded, racked, ready to rock and roll.

Reductio
04-30-2011, 1:03 PM
33 rounder in the glock 9mm ftw

ETA: Better to have all you need in the event that you can't easily get to more.

Would if those 33rd mags were any more reliable. I personally have 3-4 mags sitting there, but my Mossy 500 is what I'd grab first anyhow.

baz152
04-30-2011, 1:06 PM
Hope for the best prepare for the worst. Why only one extra loaded mag; I'm not saying to have all of your bedroom furniture made out of loaded magazines but a couple of extras will never hurt. It is better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Rhythm of Life
04-30-2011, 1:07 PM
I have my 21 round CZ mag .... it should do fine.

zfields
04-30-2011, 1:09 PM
19 in my CZ and the Moss 500 in the bedroom

10 in the XD +1 extra mag in the desk.

Baconator
04-30-2011, 1:10 PM
Would if those 33rd mags were any more reliable. I personally have 3-4 mags sitting there, but my Mossy 500 is what I'd grab first anyhow.

I think that for some, the act of dropping a mag and reloading in a high stress situation might not be as effective as it would be under a less stressful condition.

Uriah02
04-30-2011, 1:14 PM
The only time it hurts to have more ammo than less is if the extra weight is an issue. For HD purposes, it can't hurt to have extra mags ready.

1nsanity
04-30-2011, 1:16 PM
I keep either a GP100 or model 19 as a bedside loaded with .38 Golddots. I do have an additional speed loader with additional .38 Golddots and another one with .357 Silvertips. If not enough, I do have a SXS coach gun with an ammo belt loaded with 12rds of Federal 00 buck with flite control as well as a p220 with 3- 8rd mags loaded up with Federal HST’s alongside in my gun/range bag sitting safe in the closet. I do have a pre ban ar15 with 2- 30rd gi mags loaded and stored away but easily accessible with the rest of my collection (although would have to work my way to the garage) if needed which I highly doubt but always good to know is ready if the worse case does arise. I do have a SHTF bag setup in the garage as well mostly setup in case the big quake does come… and it will eventually come just hopefully not in my lifetime. I would rather be over prepared and look somewhat foolish then under prepared and in a f@#$ed situation…

Sky_DiveR
04-30-2011, 1:16 PM
I think that for some, the act of dropping a mag and reloading in a high stress situation might not be as effective as it would be under a less stressful condition.

That's what practice is for. Don't just practice til you get it right, practice til you can't get it wrong.

cdtx2001
04-30-2011, 1:16 PM
Use your handgun to get to your long gun.

ROTC sniper
04-30-2011, 1:26 PM
I have my glock next to me with 3 mags. Not that a glock would ever jam but if you have to drop a mag due to it jamming and you don't have one, then well....you're outta luck.

Justintoxicated
04-30-2011, 1:28 PM
I have about 60+ rounds ready, but hope to not need more than 1.

Sanderhawk
04-30-2011, 1:30 PM
I have 2 mags ready.

ZombieTactics
04-30-2011, 1:37 PM
Not only spare mags, but additional guns. The fastest magazine change is another gun in many cases.

HD capability starts with a loaded SR9c + 2 extra 10-round mags. There are "paths of escalation" or backup choices available in almost every room of the house.

Black Majik
04-30-2011, 1:40 PM
I only have 8.

smittty
04-30-2011, 2:07 PM
In right hand would be the handgun with 10 round mag and the big long mag lite in my left hand. I'll probably be wearing my underwear so no pockets for a spare mag.

IOW, one 10 round mag, no reload.

para38super
04-30-2011, 2:11 PM
2 extra mags.

Hopalong
04-30-2011, 2:15 PM
I was surprised to hear this but when I took my CCW class

The instructor said that if someone is attacked there will likely be multiple assailants and more than one weapon

So the rule of thumb that he taught was three mags minimum.

I don't know if this holds true for HD or not.

Yikes!

USMC 82-86
04-30-2011, 2:25 PM
I have 1 loaded in the pistol and 2 mags ready. Hopefully 1 shot will be enough, but 2 below and 1 above will get it done. The 12 ga should finish the job before the pistol is needed.

Call_me_Tom
04-30-2011, 2:41 PM
I keep my HD pistol loaded with a 20rd mag, nothing else.

PandaLuv
04-30-2011, 2:44 PM
Is there a way to have an arm or leg band with mags attached to it?
I mean if someone breaks in, u will be able to just slip it on and have extra ammo.

Fishslayer
04-30-2011, 2:57 PM
I don't worship at the alter of that guy with the strange name, but he said "A gun without extra ammunition is a temporary gun." Makes sense.

An extra mag (or speedloader) or three takes up little room, especially if you're running a manly caliber. ;)

Packy14
04-30-2011, 3:05 PM
Any gun that might face duty has 5 loaded mags in close proximity to it... if its worth doing, do it right.

G60
04-30-2011, 3:08 PM
gotta have those assault clips ready.

SIGSHOOTR
04-30-2011, 3:11 PM
One 10 rounder in my P226 with two 10 rounders in a mag carrier within arms reach on my nightstand. 30 rounds of 147 gr JHPs should be more than enough. However, once my M4 gets released this Tuesday-- 4 PMAGS loaded with 5.56 NATO... :D

LMT4ME
04-30-2011, 3:36 PM
Is there a way to have an arm or leg band with mags attached to it?
I mean if someone breaks in, u will be able to just slip it on and have extra ammo.

I have a great idea - make an analog to velcro but for chest hair. That way when you roll out of bed naked you can slap on a chest-hair-velcro mag pouch with 4 or 5 mags and be ready to rock and roll. Only down side I can think of is the after the attack removing the mag pouches might be brutal. If you don't have chest hair or are female (hopefully without chest hair) then you have one other option as for placement.

PandaLuv
04-30-2011, 3:43 PM
Lol^

Peter W Bush
04-30-2011, 4:02 PM
I have a .38 S&W and an 870 loaded within reach of my bed. If 6 rounds of .38+p and 5 rounds of 00 buck, then your F****D, to put it lightly.

resident-shooter
04-30-2011, 7:27 PM
Assault clips FTW I tellz ya :D

707electrician
04-30-2011, 7:32 PM
I keep my glock loaded with 4 extra mags ready

Reductio
04-30-2011, 8:20 PM
I think that for some, the act of dropping a mag and reloading in a high stress situation might not be as effective as it would be under a less stressful condition.

For sure.... and it's just reason for me to spend more time shooting and practicing. :D

bsg
04-30-2011, 9:18 PM
P225 with extra magazine ready. in colder months... P220 .45 ACP with extra magazine ready.

Voo
05-01-2011, 3:19 AM
I have 2 mags for my P226.. 16+1 in the gun, plus another 16 right next to it.. This is also how i kept my G17... Always 1 spare magazine, loaded to full.

To be honest though, if they somehow manage to survive the first magazine, and can still stay in the fight, I figure I'm probably screwed and more ammo isn't going to really help..

resident-shooter
05-01-2011, 7:55 AM
lol that is what I was thinking. If 16 shots can't stop them.... there is a bigger problem that I should worry about.

Oceanbob
05-01-2011, 8:11 AM
With one 15 round magazine.

1. No rounds in the chamber.

2. The Dog will email me if he hears anything. (loud bark)

3. I do wear my Warrior Underwear and special combat glasses to bed in case I want to Belch out of my upstairs bedroom and confront the Perps
with my Glock 29.

4. With college kids and the constant comings and goings of them and their friends (my house seems like a Dorm sometimes)..I keep Mr. Glock on the downlow. Plus, we live in a nice, quiet neighborhood.

5. While I am prepared (Mr. Glock) I don't expect to get into a nighttime firefight with an organized pair of armed skin-headed gang members who
drove 89 miles from East LA to raid my Refridgerator of yesterdays cold Pizza.

6. I like Zombie Questions better.

bsg
05-01-2011, 8:17 AM
2. The Dog will email me if he hears anything. (loud bark)




+1. i should have mentioned my true "first responder."

Trapper
05-01-2011, 8:24 AM
I keep two extra 12rd mags with my .40cal Sig 229 and an 870 nearby.

Erin
05-01-2011, 8:36 AM
Use your handgun to get to your long gun.

this. ive got my XD with a spare mag in my night stand. my fiance knows how to operate the mossberg 500 in the closet. my side of the bed is online with the hallway so id be falling back to her side of the bed with the 45 while she deploys the 12 ga. once we are both in position and not engaged we can call 911

edit to add: you guys seen these? http://www.us-palm.com/index.php?option=com_products&view=product&id=10
seriously considdering a pair

Left Coast Conservative
05-01-2011, 8:40 AM
My HD plan is to arm myself, close the bedroom door, get myself and my wife behind cover in the bedroom, and while I cover the door, my wife gets on the phone to call 9111 to get the police rolling.

I am not going to confront an intruder in the house.

Since I am in a fixed position, then carrying a bunch of stuff with me is not a concern. So, there is a 1911 stored in Condition 1 with a 8 round magazine, so that's 8+1, with two extra 8 rounders, and a box of 50 rounds ready to hand.

Perhaps many will think I am getting ready to fight a war, but maybe I am just a belt AND suspenders kind of guy.

"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition."
-- Rudyard Kipling

Brown Rock
05-01-2011, 8:40 AM
17+1 right here.

SVRider
05-01-2011, 8:50 AM
The need for the extra rounds in a spare magazine is unlikely in a HD scenario...however....

...anything can fail, normally at the most inopportune time. That includes magazines. A spare magazine should always be close at hand in case of a failure. "One is none, two is one..."

resident-shooter
05-01-2011, 9:12 AM
The need for the extra rounds in a spare magazine is unlikely in a HD scenario...however....

...anything can fail, normally at the most inopportune time. That includes magazines. A spare magazine should always be close at hand in case of a failure. "One is none, two is one..."

mayx cens

MongooseV8
05-01-2011, 9:18 AM
37 Total. A BlackHawk SERPA paddle holster slips on real quick to any waistband
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q47/turborscapri1984/100_0501-1.jpg

jmust1991
05-01-2011, 9:33 AM
2 15 round mags for the Beretta+ 8 12 gauge buckshot. I expect that to be more than plenty. If not, that should allow me to get to the safe.... let's just say I won't run out very quickly :)

fonzy
05-01-2011, 9:34 AM
Everyone says don't confront the intruder just lock the bedroom door and take cover. What about the kids? I still have to go down the hall to wake up 2 kids. Have you ever tried to wake up a 13 and 11 year old? They hibernate like bears nothing wakes them up. I can't carry them, they are bigger than me and I have a bad back.

Just for humor this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PPqAVhtYg8&feature=feedu

atv
05-01-2011, 10:30 AM
In addition to pistol and shotgun shells, I keep about 500 rounds of 5.56 in the bedroom. Never know how long I need to hold up, or how hungry the zombies are.

The Undertaker
05-01-2011, 10:36 AM
Twenty HP rounds in two magazines for my USP40. That weapon is ready at all times.

I would never considering using the AR despite having close to 180 rounds in six magazines available. My house is located within a standard CA suburb. I can't run the risks of off-target rifle fire.

Should I require heavier firepower, I would resort to my Mossberg, loaded with #4 buckshot.

hawk81
05-01-2011, 11:22 AM
Better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it.

drunktank
05-01-2011, 11:52 AM
As a bedside weapon I prefer just one 15 rounder loaded into the gun. My free hand holds a surefire light. Things have gone bump in the night for me and instead of getting dressed and carrying extra mags, I just ran out to investigate wearing boxers (with pistol and light). You don't always have the luxury of having your "gear" on.

Mr.1904
05-01-2011, 1:08 PM
I keep all 4 of my mags loaded for my beretta. one in the gun, two in a mag pouch, and the 4th in the drawer

60 rounds of dont **** around. Ready for whatever

Low-Pressure
05-01-2011, 1:19 PM
The only reason I bought my 9mm pistol was because of the 17 round magazine, and that was before the hi-cap ban. But I'm hoping that my dogs will deter them first.

cyanide
05-01-2011, 1:19 PM
Would if those 33rd mags were any more reliable. I personally have 3-4 mags sitting there, but my Mossy 500 is what I'd grab first anyhow.

Wait you have had issues with the factory glock 33 round mag? i haven't had any issues yet, but yeah, id grab my mossberg first also ^_^

USMC VET
05-01-2011, 1:24 PM
ALL of my ammo is less than 5ft away, but I keep my 870 tube full and my both xd mags loaded with HD ammo.

Low-Pressure
05-01-2011, 1:24 PM
gotta have those assault clips ready.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/lowpressure/magazine-vs-clip.jpg

Cali-Shooter
05-01-2011, 1:31 PM
Bare minimum of 2 loaded magazines, whether they are 7, 8, 10, 15, or 33 rounders for whatever caliber.

I would say nothing is overkill except an excess of 10+ loaded mags ready to go :)

kel-tec-innovations
05-01-2011, 2:25 PM
its always good to have two magazines. What if that only magazines craps out? or all of a sudden has feeding issues?

I have a duty belt by my bed with my gun in holster, 3 magazines. Large Pepper spray, flashlight to attach to gun rail and hand cuff. Also body armor next to belt.

resident-shooter
05-01-2011, 2:52 PM
its always good to have two magazines. What if that only magazines craps out? or all of a sudden has feeding issues?

I have a duty belt by my bed with my gun in holster, 3 magazines. Large Pepper spray, flashlight to attach to gun rail and hand cuff. Also body armor next to belt.

ULTIMATE MALL NINJUH yo:D

Sunday
05-01-2011, 3:33 PM
Use your handgun to get to your long gun.

Right.

mif_slim
05-01-2011, 3:51 PM
All my mags are loaded.... I'll grab what I can, may it be 2, 3,4... Most likly 2.

The Undertaker
05-01-2011, 4:14 PM
Better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it.

Aye.

I see the pistol and the shotguns are standard fare for defending myself in my home. The rifle is another story... I would only "need" the rifle if a lynch mob was coming in my direction and/or civil order has collapsed and I need to get out of town.

cali_armz
05-01-2011, 4:33 PM
if i could choose any set up for home defense, id want an 80 round drum mag on my AK with a bayonet. not because i actually think 80 rounds is necessary. hopefully, you wouldnt even need to use one round, but it seems like it would be better to be safe than sorry.

too bad were limited to 10 round mags though

ZX-10R
05-01-2011, 4:41 PM
Full mags for my M&P 45 and WASR. If i have to use my weapon and I hope I never have to do so I want to make sure it is ready to go.

MarioS
05-01-2011, 5:16 PM
Wear something with pockets when you sleep and take an extra mag with you when you go investigate the bump in the night. Can't hurt.

Charlie50
05-01-2011, 5:22 PM
Barney Fife only needed to carry one in his shirt pocket in the event of a mergency... good enough for the whole town of Mayberry, good 'nough fer me.

Realistically, how many of us are really going to be involved in any kind of running gun battle? OK, I keep 5 in the mossberg... that ought to do it.

FeuerFrei
05-01-2011, 5:47 PM
Keep your pistol topped off and have a good light and cell handy.
Something with a strobe will be very good to have + lots of lumens.
It is your turf and YOU have the advantage. Just don't over think this.

So; Topped off pistol, good light w/charged batts, fully charged cell phone w/911 on speed dial and you're gtg.

GW
05-01-2011, 9:08 PM
No such thing as too much ammo
Unless your house is on fire...

resident-shooter
05-01-2011, 9:28 PM
uh yes such thing when you have to carry it all and you got no pockets.

NorCalDustin
05-01-2011, 11:24 PM
Ask yourself this... In a HD situation, how many mag's do you think you might need? Then, you'll probably want to double that.

As I figure it, In an HD situation... I might need 1 magazine plus 1 extra in case you have some kind of malfunction... So, I think I might need 2 magazines. Using my general rule of thumb, I'll then keep 4 magazines on hand.

I would much rather have much more than I need, and not use them... Than need them, and not have them ready.


Just something to consider.

Omil
05-01-2011, 11:41 PM
For me in HD, starts with Mossy or Pony!:D

Fishandshoot
05-01-2011, 11:52 PM
I keep my glock loaded with 4 extra mags ready

+1

4 mags here

GW
05-02-2011, 12:08 AM
uh yes such thing when you have to carry it all and you got no pockets.

You miss the point, chum.
we aren't talking about taking it all with you to Kansas. The discussion is about Home Defense and this case you take as much as you can carry and still be effective.

And you'll probably still wish you'd brought one more magazine.;)

Packy14
05-02-2011, 1:04 AM
you will shoot more rounds faster than you think, most cops in a shooting think they shot 2-4 rounds, but in fact often shoot more than double that (in a short shooting w/ 1 perp and multiple cops). Most likely, if someone breaks into your house, they will bring another someone to watch their back... I'd say minimum 2 loaded mags, and probably more if they are only 10 rounders. Just hope you never have to go to that, I really hope I never do.

locosway
05-02-2011, 3:27 AM
I can dump my assault clips in short order, and accurately too. I keep 2 mags per gun ready, which totals 84 rounds between the three handguns that are accessible.

Z_SprizL
05-02-2011, 5:00 AM
I keep my P99 AS in the nightstand 10+1 and 2 extra 10 round mags all loaded with JHP ready to go right beside it (I don't have any children that I need to worry about getting into it) and Inova t3 flashlight on top of the nightstand next to my cellphone and wallet. So I guess 31 rounds for me and plenty more in the closet I can get to if necessary.

Andy Taylor
05-02-2011, 6:16 AM
I have a 6 shot Colt revolver plus one speedloader next to my bed. There is a Remington 870 and a Winchester 92 carbine under the bed. No extra ammo for the carbine or shotgun.

JayBeeJay
05-02-2011, 9:03 AM
10 + 10 + 10 + 30 + 30 (preban's of course) of .40 S&W mags stay loaded for one of my Glock 23's. On top of that always got the 500 Mossy ready. Those are the only 2 firearms that stay loaded in my house.

r6raff
05-02-2011, 9:13 AM
I think statistically speaking you should only need a few rounds in any HD situation... that being said, I have 3 loaded mags for my 9mm, 5 loaded mags for my AR and my shotgun has 5 in the tube. I say screw statistics:D

All those mags are dedicated HD mags with HD ammo, I do cycle them every few weeks but I always have that many ready just in case... you know, those land pirates may come and try and take my booty:chris:

CSACANNONEER
05-02-2011, 9:15 AM
I keep 3 rounds of .38 shotshells and 2 rounds of hydrashocks at the ready. If I need more ammo, I can alway grab another gun. If I ever thought that I'd need more than 10 rounds to defend myself, I'd either move to a place where I don't expect more than 10 intruders at a time or, I'd learn to shoot. But, if I ever needed many rounds for HD, I guess I could just grab a 250 round belt or two.

sanjosebmx
05-02-2011, 10:19 AM
I have 2 mags loaded with HP defensive rounds in the safe next to the gun (open slide, unloaded).

This way I know when I insert mag and rack slide, it's chambered...

The_Tinman
05-02-2011, 10:46 AM
I keep my Lc9 holstered in my paddle holster at the bed with 2 spare mags but thats only to get across the bed to the closet where my HD 870 sleeps with 2 birdshot and 5 00 buckshot. The birdshot is for the event my wife gets to the shotgun before me. She will defend our room where our 10 month old son sleeps in the crib next to our bed, while I fight tooth and nail to my daughters' room to secure them. My poor old house is only 700 square feet and I'm only concerned with defending maybe 500 sqft. To be completely honest, I hope to never have to fire inside the house if for no other reason than to protect my childrens hearing. This is also the reason I stepped down from my .40 to the 9mm and want a 20g 870 or 500.

plankowner
05-03-2011, 5:36 AM
I always keep an extras mag next to me