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Rick76
04-30-2011, 12:01 AM
I just ordered a P220R3 Carry .45 ACP to add to my CCW license. Currently on the license, I have a Colt Combat Commander .45ACP, Sig P239 9mm, and a Kahr PM9 9mm. The P220 would replace the Colt. (3 handguns is the max allowed, right ?) It's a little late to be second guessing my decision, but for you P220 owners out there - how practical is this weapon as a concealed carry? On the forums, some say it's too big, & some say it's perfect. If you own a Sig P220, please tell me I didn't just waste $800 ! Does it conceal well ?

locosway
04-30-2011, 12:09 AM
I don't have the gun and I don't carry generally. However, I'm going to say this is a personal opinion and based a lot on the clothing you wear and your body type. Different people can conceal different guns. You really won't know until you carry it around for a while and see what feels right or doesn't.

NewbieDave
04-30-2011, 12:45 AM
Isn't the 220 Carry a compact (shorter slide)? That being say... a CHP buddy of mine carries a 220 all day long without issue. But he's a pretty big dude (6'1" 210)... he carries IWB, conceal good under sweat shirt.

M. D. Van Norman
04-30-2011, 7:35 AM
First, there is no three-gun limit, so you can simply add your new pistol. Second, I think the P220 Carry will be larger but possibly lighter than your Colt Commander.

locosway
04-30-2011, 7:38 AM
First, there is no three-gun limit, so you can simply add your new pistol. Second, I think the P220 Carry will be larger but possibly lighter than your Colt Commander.

Some counties restrict your CCW gun limit to 3 on your permit.

Swift Justice
04-30-2011, 8:06 AM
Sacramento County is three gun limit by Sheriff''s policy.
I do carry a Glock 17 when I can, but most of the time I'm limited to carrying my G26 due to office dress limitations and the desire not to print at all.

9mmepiphany
04-30-2011, 8:38 AM
The full sized 220 is the same profile/size as the Commander...but the 220 is thicker across the slide.

I've carry my full size 220 without any problem on a good belt (Wilderness Instructor) and a good holster (Comp-Tac Settable Cant Paddle)

M. D. Van Norman
04-30-2011, 10:03 AM
The three-gun limit is unlawful. Send a PM to Brandon Combs (Wildhawker) of CGF about it. :mad:

WARDOG
04-30-2011, 10:12 AM
I have a couple of SIG 220's. While one is on my CCW it is too big for concealment on my body, 5'-9", 175 lbs. I put it on my carry list (retired LEO) mainly for travel in my vehicle in other states. If it were on a holster outside of your pants it would be just too big for me, and especially during lighter clothes seasons.
Winter gun for me is a SA Ultra Compact .45
Spring / Summer is S&W Model 60 3" .357, S&W 642 hammerless .38.
While the SA and smaller 'J' frames are great, in a firefight they are just to get me to my car where I have my P220. I carried those 220's for many years as LEO and I am a F'ing surgeon with them.

G60
04-30-2011, 10:21 AM
The three-gun limit is unlawful. Send a PM to Brandon Combs (Wildhawker) of CGF about it. :mad:

correct.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=5950187&postcount=29

IVth Horseman
04-30-2011, 12:25 PM
I have a Sig 220 carry listed on my permit. Im not a big guy around the waist so I carry it in a Gaclo shoulder holster during the colder months...very comfortable. But I do have smaller pistols listed for iwb and better concealment, but in the end I just like to have the option.

Heiko
04-30-2011, 12:33 PM
The three-gun limit is unlawful. Send a PM to Brandon Combs (Wildhawker) of CGF about it. :mad:

Maybe so but do you think that is a battle he needs to fight and the hill for him to die on? The information contain following the link doesn't point out explicit authority to either limit or not limit the number of guns on a CCW. It doesn't say the Sheriff can limit nor does it say the Sheriff can't limit. It's a lot of inferences. More power to those who prevail on this issue though.

OP:

I had a Sig P245, which is basically the predecessor to the P220 Carry. It was okay to carry. It's not going to be like carrying your Kahr but in a good OWB holster it will be fine. I only ever carried it OWB. I found it a bit thick for IWB but it can work that way. The guy I sold it to carries it IWB. Neither one of us are what you'd consider big guys. Like others have stated, the proper belt/holster combination is paramount.

I think the other question is whether you want to substitute the P220 for a 1911. Both are great and two of my favorite handguns. (I'm putting aside the possibility of having more than one gun on your CCW.) That's a tough choice and only you can make it.

pyromensch
04-30-2011, 7:50 PM
no need to stir the pot, i met a guy, from lake county, which limits their listed firearms to, 2, for CCW.

ubet
04-30-2011, 9:03 PM
I have a sig220 carry, I am 5'8" and 160 soaking wet. It is my ONLY CCW. I carry rain or shine, 365 days a year, I dont wear baggy pants, and I dont wear baggy shirts. Sometimes its just levis, a white tshirt and my 220, and I have NO problems concealing it. Get a Milt sparks vm2 with the tuckable clips, and on me the gun just disapears. Dont listen to nay sayers, on the gun, dont regret it, they are great guns, and shoot like sobs. Since you have other sigs, I am sure you are aware, they do require a 300-500 rd break in (my carry did anyway). But after that, its smoother than the inside of a playmates thighs.

The only thing I would be concerned about as mentioned is going from a 1911, to the 220 if it is dao or da/sa. Controls are different, no safeties etc on the 220.

Good luck on your purchase, you WILL be happy. Most important thing, you are buying a $800 gun, get a GOOD ccw holster for it. Dont skimp on it, I had a comptac infidel, that I used to use, it was horrid uncomfortable, would poke me in the side. When I first put on the vm2, I got a hard on how good it felt. Night and day, but for +$100 on the vm2, I would say their should be.

Moto4Fun
05-01-2011, 6:01 AM
Your point is similar to what I was going to say, but I have a more positive twist.

You other guns are DAO or DA/SA so it makes a lot of sense going to the P220. The 1911 was the odd duck with the safety. You are simplifying and reducing the chance of user error.

Not having put the side by side, how different is the size of the 220 carry and 239?

Swift Justice
05-01-2011, 8:03 AM
Not to take the thread too OT, I'm sure that CGF is well aware of Sac County (and other's) 2 or 3 gun limit, and I have consistently heard (especially in the case of Sac County, that just recently went shall issue) that there are bigger fish to fry for the time being.

Rick76
05-01-2011, 12:22 PM
Yeah, the SA + safety of the 1911 was the primary reason I decided to go for the P220. I couldn't convince myself for sure that in a SD situation, I wouldn't forget to drop the safety - until it's too late. With the P220, the decocker allows you to carry safely, with no extra step to remember when seconds count.

I'm more accurate with my 1911 than my other two pistols, though. Kinda sad to limit its use to just home defense. I'm hoping that the advertised "one of the most accurate 45s right out of the box" claim for the P220 on Sig Sauer's website isn't just smoke. We'll know soon !

Dhena81
05-01-2011, 6:06 PM
The P220 is one of the most accurate out of the box 45's on the market theirs no smoke in that statement it doesn't say specifically what it's place is so take it for what it is.

TahoeSig
05-01-2011, 7:10 PM
I have a 220 carry SAO with beavertail (a gov'mt overrun model). Carries and shoots well. On my permit, but I carry a Kimber Ultra CDP II more (thinner and prints less). I'm 5'9" 160#. Nevertheless, it's a great weapon you won't regret buying. I'd give another vote for a VMII IWB holster. That's the way it carries best. Too bulky for my carry coats, but again I'm not that big. A 6 footer could probably easily carry it in a conceal coat.

a1c
05-01-2011, 8:14 PM
The three-gun limit is unlawful. Send a PM to Brandon Combs (Wildhawker) of CGF about it. :mad:

Well that's nice, but some of us have to deal with the practical reality, which means for many of us a 3-gun limit.

ubet
05-06-2011, 7:29 AM
Its a damned accurate pistol. Good luck with it. let us know how it shoots.

sker13
05-06-2011, 8:08 AM
I don't carry it as much as my glock 27. I love mine though. It has a rail so that is a benefit in some situations. Mine is supremely accurate and reliable. What's not to like? Night sights, rail, .45 ACP, nice size and weight, and excellent reliability. IMO it is an great shooter and and excellent weapon. Enjoy...reload....repeat.

375Ranger
05-06-2011, 10:16 AM
I too have a P220carry. I'm 5'8" 165lbs, and was concerned about concealment. I don't like carrying IWB, so I use a Don Hume JIT slide, which rides higher and at 4:00 with a t shirt, does'nt print. You have to use a quality belt, mine is a Mernickle, or else the gun could flop around. If it's too warm and I wanna wear shorts, then I use my snub .38 in a pocket. I love my Sig, so gotta make it work.

tbhracing
05-06-2011, 10:31 AM
3 firearm limit in Sac County. And no, I would not, could not carry a Sig P220 as a CCW weapon.

ubet
05-06-2011, 12:49 PM
I dont know whey all of you people are having trouble ccwing a 220? I am 5'8" 160lbs soaking wet, and have no problem with iwb. I tuck my shirt, OR leave it untucked, either way no printing.

ANy of you saying that you would not, could not, have you ever TRIED to ccw a p220, or is this all just your ASSumptions?

WARDOG
05-06-2011, 1:21 PM
...I dont know whey all of you people are having trouble ccwing a 220? I am 5'8" 160lbs soaking wet, and have no problem with iwb. I tuck my shirt, OR leave it untucked, either way no printing...?

ubet-
I realize you cannot see it BUT...
Have you had someone else look for the print that knows what they are looking for? An officer for example?
Where are you carrying it specifically?
Mine prints BIG time but I carry just to the inside of my right hip bone.
5'-9", 175, thin waste (32").

Ranger20
05-06-2011, 7:01 PM
The full sized 220 is the same profile/size as the Commander...but the 220 is thicker across the slide.

I've carry my full size 220 without any problem on a good belt (Wilderness Instructor) and a good holster (Comp-Tac Settable Cant Paddle)



+1 a good belt and an excellent holster that works for you and your body type are a must. Especially when you carry a larger pistol. How you dress around the gun is also very important.

I've made more CCW folks because they didn't take the time to learn how to do this correctly. You should never be made...