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Baga
04-27-2011, 12:30 PM
I didn't know if I should've posted this in the handguns or rifles discussions. Anyone heard of the Glock G1? Wish this was CA Legal. Or is it CA legal? Or can it be CA Legal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGn_0dZ15x4&feature=related

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kudmputq1N1qzbvc0o1_500.jpg

DasBoost
04-27-2011, 12:40 PM
I believe it is considered a SBR and once you put your pistol in there, it cannot be reverted back to pistol status. I'm not 100% and not trying to spread FUD, but that is what I have heard.

Lead Waster
04-27-2011, 1:16 PM
What advantage does this give you over your pistol aside from holding crap on a rail? Is it more stable or something?

Vipersx911
04-27-2011, 1:19 PM
I believe it is considered a SBR and once you put your pistol in there, it cannot be reverted back to pistol status. I'm not 100% and not trying to spread FUD, but that is what I have heard.

This weapon would qualify as a rifle, it is not legal it would not meet either the minimum barrel length or the minimum overall length to be considered legal. You would need to put a longer barrel on it and find a way to fix the magazine to make it CA Comp. Furthermore without the longer barrel it would not be Federally legal either unless it was a registered SBR and you got the Tax Stamp from BATF. In regards to putting it on a handgun once a rifle always a rifle. Although you could physically interchange it once it is put on the pistol you cannot legally take it off or you would be manufacturing an SBR. Constructive Posession could also take effect that posession of simply the attachment seperate from the weapon could get you hit for CP of an SBR. My recommendation is unless you are a CLass 3 Stamp Holder DO NOT ATTEMPT TO USE SOMETHING LIKE THIS!!!!

1911Operator
04-27-2011, 1:52 PM
its just a stock. you can get them off amazon for $500 or where ever. you will be comiting a felony if you ever have the gun near the stock and they can get you for attemt to construct SBR or something like that. Its a cool set up, but your not gonna be able to have one in CA. you could also take the stock off and use the body as a "rail" system for optics or even to hand off a sling. just make sure the stock part is put away... far far away.

Lead Waster
04-27-2011, 3:12 PM
Yeah, it looks like something that is a whole heap of trouble for not much benefit.

Reminds me of those old Saturday Night Live skits "Bad Idea Jeans"

Grumpyoldretiredcop
04-27-2011, 4:04 PM
you will be comiting a felony if you ever have the gun near the stock and they can get you for attemt to construct SBR or something like that. Its a cool set up, but your not gonna be able to have one in CA

You could be prosecuted for constructive possession of a short barreled rifle (SBR) if you own or exercise control over both the stock and a pistol that could be installed in the stock.

you could also take the stock off and use the body as a "rail" system for optics or even to hand off a sling. just make sure the stock part is put away... far far away.

Not very wise. The phrase "capable of accepting a shoulder stock" comes into play, again placing the owner in jeopardy of prosecution for constructive possession. Altering the shell around the pistol in such a manner that a shoulder stock could never be installed might mitigate this, but I wouldn't want to be a test case.

Be careful what you write.

1911Operator
04-27-2011, 4:26 PM
You could be prosecuted for constructive possession of a short barreled rifle (SBR) if you own or exercise control over both the stock and a pistol that could be installed in the stock.



Not very wise. The phrase "capable of accepting a shoulder stock" comes into play, again placing the owner in jeopardy of prosecution for constructive possession. Altering the shell around the pistol in such a manner that a shoulder stock could never be installed might mitigate this, but I wouldn't want to be a test case.

Be careful what you write.

?????? anything can accept a stock especially a glock!

look at this:
http://winkin.phpwebhosting.com/~redstararms/877.html

thats why I said, KEEP THE STOCK AWAY. you need to see what your writing. I enphesised keeping the stock AWAY! Theres nothing wrong in what I said. The front of it can be used as a mounting system.

Vipersx911
04-27-2011, 6:59 PM
?????? anything can accept a stock especially a glock!

look at this:
http://winkin.phpwebhosting.com/~redstararms/877.html

thats why I said, KEEP THE STOCK AWAY. you need to see what your writing. I enphesised keeping the stock AWAY! Theres nothing wrong in what I said. The front of it can be used as a mounting system.

Keeping the stock away is not the point, posession or control is enough to get you prosecuted for Constructive Posession.

bcpucky
04-27-2011, 11:23 PM
Say what you will, its a neat concept. Especially the video.

email
04-27-2011, 11:30 PM
CrAAp

gatesbox
04-28-2011, 12:03 AM
Longer barrel optics rail, if we lived anywhere else and it sold for 200 bucks it would be cool, especially with the 33 rd mags hanging out of it......but in this state that little stupid stock that plugs up the glock bunghole is taboo.

Edit whoops my bad, just watched no barrel improvement, that kinda sucks, a longer compensated barrel would have been a nice addition...I don't now why I lol'd when they put the little collapsible BUIS on that little guy.....

Baga
04-28-2011, 9:45 AM
Say what you will, its a neat concept. Especially the video.

I didn't mean to start any controversy over this. I guess what I should've said that this G1 is a pretty awesome concept like what bcpucky said. :D

bcpucky
04-28-2011, 10:50 AM
The crazy laws of this state have made everyone paranoid of legal/not legal etc and unfortunately taken a lot of the fun out of a cool and popular hobby. Even just talking about it.

Baga
04-28-2011, 11:33 AM
The crazy laws of this state have made everyone paranoid of legal/not legal etc and unfortunately taken a lot of the fun out of a cool and popular hobby. Even just talking about it.

Yup...

Quiet
04-28-2011, 6:07 PM
The crazy laws of this state have made everyone paranoid of legal/not legal etc and unfortunately taken a lot of the fun out of a cool and popular hobby. Even just talking about it.

You mean Federal laws.

That stock + a Glock = SBR under Federal laws that have been around since 1934.