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RippSpeed
04-27-2011, 12:55 AM
sorry in advance for the rant... but is it just me or are some of these guys smoking crack???

I cant understand how some people justify pricing???

Does it really take that long ???

sorry just bugging me because theres a bunch of great handguns out there for sale but the price is like twice the price for them...

Guns R Tools
04-27-2011, 12:59 AM
Supply and Demand

When CA put limit on supply coming into CA by useless/pointless Roster, price is influenced by demand.

It is nature of people to make profit.

SarcoBlaster
04-27-2011, 1:00 AM
Like Guns R Tools said, supply and demand.

It's easy to justify the pricing... if I can buy guns that you can't, I will sell them to you at an inflated price. If you agree to the price and buy it, you're happy because you get a gun that you wouldn't have been able to purchase new (outside of single-shot exemptions). I'm happy because I'm able to make a profit.

j1133s
04-27-2011, 1:01 AM
sorry in advance for the rant... but is it just me or are some of these guys smoking crack???

I cant understand how some people justify pricing???

Does it really take that long ???

sorry just bugging me because theres a bunch of great handguns out there for sale but the price is like twice the price for them...

supply vs demand?

Quiet
04-27-2011, 1:03 AM
+4 on simple Supply v Demand economics.

Bulleh
04-27-2011, 1:15 AM
supply vs demand?

Micro Economics. For the most part items are priced at the seller sees fit and he may go lower on the price as time goes by until there is a prospective buyer who thinks the price is fair and purchase the pistol (known as equilibrium).

So in reality, you can only put half the blame on the seller for demanding such a premium on guns. The other half goes to all the buyers who are willing to pay more, as they feel they will loose out on the opportunity if they wait till the price drops. The lower the price, the bigger the pool of people who want off-list pistols.

cali_armz
04-27-2011, 3:21 AM
not all off roster handguns are absurdly expensive. riflegear and atlantic have some very exotic pistols which are off roster single shot conversions at reasonable prices.

Q619
04-27-2011, 4:05 AM
They do it for the same reason dogs lick their own nuts.....

Mr. Beretta
04-27-2011, 4:51 AM
Because they can!

RippSpeed
04-27-2011, 6:31 AM
For example... I can get a P30 one shot exemption for $1000 why tack on another $500 bucks is that hard and does it take that long to get one???

Hopalong
04-27-2011, 6:49 AM
(limited) Supply and (high) Demand

shooterdude
04-27-2011, 6:51 AM
Because you want it. This goes for anything that is customized or one-off. If you have to ask "how much" you shouldn't be buying it in the first place.

NSR500
04-27-2011, 7:10 AM
Capitalism... Embrace it...


If there are hurdles in place, or if it's a rare item, I will make you pay the maximum amount I can get.

mif_slim
04-27-2011, 7:37 AM
Because they can! ;)

Fishslayer
04-27-2011, 7:41 AM
but is it just me or are some of these guys smoking crack???



Maybe. But the seller doesn't really have to justify anything if the product is "as advertised."

I've been shopping & kinda grin at two months worth of daily bumps for overpriced off list guns or an AR with a few $K worth of stuff on it that's pretty much narrowed it's market to 3 people who are probly too busy with CoD to bother... ;)

ZombieTactics
04-27-2011, 8:51 AM
+4 on simple Supply v Demand economics.
Sadly, this simple principle is virtually an "unknown mystery" to many these days. It used to be common-knowledge among 6th graders. :(

sigfan91
04-27-2011, 11:09 AM
Sadly, this simple principle is virtually an "unknown mystery" to many these days. It used to be common-knowledge among 6th graders. :(

Blame socialism, which California has plenty of...

DannyZRC
04-27-2011, 11:16 AM
Sadly, this simple principle is virtually an "unknown mystery" to many these days. It used to be common-knowledge among 6th graders. :(

doubt it :p.

honeywalnutshrimp
04-27-2011, 2:14 PM
It was common knowledge among 6th graders maybe even kindergarten.. Remember the old.. one kid has a chocolate pudding pack and the other kids would trade anything from a banana to their new backpack for it.. All for a 50cent snackpack? Yeah its because only that kid could get one yet everyone wanted one.. We learn early what supply and demand is.. Its the moron kids who give up their expensive crap their "parents" gave them that ruin it for others...

And all I mean by this is unfortunately ts in adult life much like being a kid there will always be people willing to throw more money at having something they can't get at regular price leaving other people upset.. Its just how it works

jonzer77
04-27-2011, 2:41 PM
Same thing applies to a full auto m-16 that sells for 15k. Because they can.

cineski
04-27-2011, 2:55 PM
Capitalism and a free market. Move to a free state if you want cheap guns ;-) Even on-roster guns are much more expensive here than in free states.

kmca
04-27-2011, 3:00 PM
Things are going to change because there are more dealers doing single shot conversions at fair prices.

dfens
04-27-2011, 4:37 PM
I know what people are saying I'm just wondering why hasn't prices come down a little since so many shops are doing singel shop exemptions? I'm guessing if you don't live near a shop that does one or will ship/receive might be a reason.

Give you a example. A off roster gun that retails 900 dollars out of state. Sales at a local shop that does single shots for 1200. Ok that's fair he can get me one NIB plus his costs for the borrowing the barrel and since he is the only guy in town, plus want to support my local gun shop.

Then I see the same gun for sale in the forums used with a asking price of 1500 dollars and I just want to roll my eyes. Why would I pay more for a used one when I can get a brand new one for less. And if you say anything you get the 3rd degree for thread crapping.

If enough places start doing single shots then the resale market should go way down when they want to sale them for practically the same if not more what they orginially paid.

Toast
04-27-2011, 4:39 PM
sorry in advance for the rant... but is it just me or are some of these guys smoking crack???

I cant understand how some people justify pricing???

Heh, I wonder the same thing whenever I see $600 LCPs for sale here... I can make a 15 minute drive and get one for $335. If they can get someone to pay that price then more power to em.

Ranger20
04-27-2011, 5:01 PM
Value is not always determined by "retail price" Scarcity effects value as does oversupply. CA GUN LIST has created a lot of guns that are in low supply and this has effected the market value of those guns not on the list. Which is what a ready willing and able buyer is willing to pay for them.

You can be upset about it all you want... it's simple economics... Do I like paying $400 more for an HK P7 here than say in Oregon NOPE.. Do I ... Sure if it's value determined by me is worth it to me.. and I have... Guess what That helps set the value for you if you want one too... for a time... Is it Fair... Yup... To do otherwise is price fixing now you are talking something the GOVT. Likes to do...

fred40
04-27-2011, 5:34 PM
The single shotting must be pissing some antis off. Hah! Take that libtards pvssies.