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nevil
04-26-2011, 7:56 PM
So I am looking for a good tac light for G23 that wont brake the bank?

707electrician
04-26-2011, 7:57 PM
TLR-1s I have seen for around $100

McTerry
04-26-2011, 8:01 PM
Streamlight TLR-3 LED Weaponlight $71.99

Link (http://www.lapolicegear.com/streamlight-tlr3-led-weaponlight.html)

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/policestuff_2154_105166971

Product Details

COMPACT RAIL MOUNTED TACTICAL LIGHT

Note from LAPG Staff - We have played with this light and we can tell you it is very bright for it's size. It is lightweight and easy to use. It was designed for small frame guns but will work on full size frames as well. We are looking forward to getting these on our personal guns.

The Streamlight TLR-3 compact rail mounted tactical light delivers a sharp 90 lumen light from a C4 LED that is only 2.71 inches long! The TLR-3 has an easy to use ambidextrous momentary/steady on-off switch that the operator can use with his shooting or supporting hand. Powered with one 3 volt CR2 lithium battery, the TLR-3 has a regulated runtime that supplies a constant hi-performance light for up to 1.5 hours. The rail clamp is designed to rapidly attach/detach from side of weapon. One-handed snap on and tighten interface keeps hands away from muzzle when attaching/detaching. The TLR-3 has keys included with every light for all major rail systems in use including various proprietary rails that are usually omitted from other weapon lights.

Features
C4 LED delivers 4,100 candela peak beam intensity; 90 lumens. 2-3 times brighter than high-flux LEDs.
Parabolic reflector produces a concentrated beam with optimum peripheral illumination.
Optimized electronics provide regulated intensity.
Runs 1.5 continuous hrs. to the 10% output level
Includes 5 interchangeable keys to fit a wide variety of weapons
Rail clamp designed to rapidly attach/detach from side of weapon. One handed snap-on and tighten interface keeps hands away from muzzle when attaching/detaching
Ambidextrous momentary/steady On-Off switch
Body constructed of impact resistant nylon polymer
Face cap constructed of 6000 series machined aircraft aluminum with anodized finish
Borofloat high temperature glass lens
Waterproof to 1 meter for 30 minutes. IPX7 rated
Operating temperature: -40F to +120F.
Powered one 3V CR2 lithium battery
Serialized for positive identification
2.71 in. (6.88 cm)
Limited lifetime warranty

MoBait
04-26-2011, 8:10 PM
the TLR 1 is brighter than the TLR 3 but it uses two 123 batteries as opposed to one and it is a little more than 4oz. The TLR3 is ~2.5oz. I had a TLR3 on my G22 and it worked great, bright enough to kill a targets night vision and allow you to see everything indoors. During a black out I ran it in my room to finish doing my homework. Make sure to get lithium batteries for any weapon light you decide to buy.

Kanester
04-26-2011, 8:17 PM
Got this one from amazon for $23 shipped for my Glock 17.

http://www.amazon.com/Pistol-Rifle-Flashlight-Release-Weaver/dp/B001BZPJRC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1303873971&sr=8-2

I am sure people will speak up now and say NcStar is garbage, but I was really impressed with the fit/brightness/quality for $23. Check out the reviews- 105 so far and averaging 4.5 out of 5 stars, so I know im not the only one....

I wasent interested in spending $150+ for a flashlight, and so far this one is a perfect fit and has been working flawlessley.

Can't buy anything here
04-26-2011, 8:21 PM
Get a TLR3....great light for the money...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e249/sipowicz/P1070134.jpg

giants_fan24
04-26-2011, 8:22 PM
Streamlight TRL-1 I've seen them as low as around $80 and very bright

llamatrnr
04-26-2011, 8:31 PM
Doesn't anyone like the Glock light?

scootle
04-26-2011, 8:42 PM
Not sure I'd trust my life (or someone else's) to a $23 light that must absolutely function when you need it most... just sayin. :)

TLR-3 is a great size, but the battery (CR2) isn't as standard as the CR123. Both are cheap(ish) to buy in bulk at Battery Junction tho.

I run a TLR-1s each on my shot gun and AR carbine. TLR-3 is on my M&P9.

tbhracing
04-26-2011, 8:45 PM
After Nutnfancy did the TLR3 review, I was sold.

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Kanester
04-26-2011, 8:58 PM
"Not sure I'd trust my life (or someone else's) to a $23 light that must absolutely function when you need it most... just sayin. :)"


Was waitin for that :) ...if we were talking about a more complicated piece of equipment, I would absolutely agree with you. But a flashlight is a fairly simple piece of equipment, and if you simply check the battery/bulb periodically I don't think there would be any "unforseen failure" with a lightbulb. This thing does seem like it's good quality and well built, and the bottom line is whether it is a $10 or $400 Tac light, if the battery/bulb is dead it won't work. But that's just my opinion.


To the rest of you, thanks for helping the economy ;)


Found a review of the light on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1rHk39oeDE

scootle
04-26-2011, 9:20 PM
Was waitin for that ...if we were talking about a more complicated piece of equipment, I would absolutely agree with you. But a flashlight is a fairly simple piece of equipment, and if you simply check the battery/bulb periodically I don't think there would be any "unforseen failure" with a lightbulb. This thing does seem like it's good quality and well built, and the bottom line is whether it is a $10 or $400 Tac light, if the battery/bulb is dead it won't work. But that's just my opinion.

Well yes, and no... weapon lights require some more survivability due to the shock of the firearm discharge and general rough handling... most LED systems won't fail like a "bulb" would, but the battery connections and whatnot are prone to "momentary disconnection" under things like recoil. Caveat emptor.

Just because people like pictures... here are the Streamlight offerings modeled on my M&P9:

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/15/20110206221159s90img259.th.jpg (http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/15/20110206221159s90img259.jpg) http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4412/20110206221149s90img259.th.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4412/20110206221149s90img259.jpg)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4712/20110206221111s90img259.th.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4712/20110206221111s90img259.jpg) http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5710/20110206221057s90img258.th.jpg (http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5710/20110206221057s90img258.jpg)

I went with the TLR-3 on the pistol since it seems to fit better due to the more compact form-factor.

esartori
04-26-2011, 11:22 PM
I have the c4 led tlr 1 and its great. Amazon had them for a good price. The tlr1s is good too.

JeffM
04-26-2011, 11:36 PM
Don't use a light on a Glock 23

DaveFJ80
04-26-2011, 11:45 PM
I had a Surefire X300. While I liked it a lot, I got rid of it and went with the TLR-1s lights for both my Glock and Kimber.

The X300 is bright, but too bright for indoor/HD use IMO. It really depends on how big your living area is, but for me it was too intense and the TLR-1 illuminated the areas better for me. I don't have a large backyard where I'll need a spotlight, so I don't need the X300. Also, I like and have gotten used to the controls on the TLR-1, and I especially like the way the momentary switch works on the Streamlight over the Surefire.

Again, that's for me as others may feel differently about the lights.


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e51/mugenef8/FIREARMS/Kimber/HD_Pics/61.jpg

Ricky-Ray
04-26-2011, 11:50 PM
See if you can find a shop that has both a TLR-3 and a TLR-1 and try mouting it on your glock. I bought a TLR-3 for my XD at first and noticed that the switched seemed a bit far away for my reach. I bought a used TLR-1 and fit's so much nicer on my XD. I'm able to fiip the switch on the TLR-1 very easily as opposed to the TLR-3.

DaveFJ80
04-27-2011, 12:04 AM
See if you can find a shop that has both a TLR-3 and a TLR-1 and try mouting it on your glock. I bought a TLR-3 for my XD at first and noticed that the switched seemed a bit far away for my reach. I bought a used TLR-1 and fit's so much nicer on my XD.


Here's a good point. Unless the gun has a short frame and the rail slot on the frame is close to the trigger guard, the TLR-3 is going to be pretty far forward and harder to reach (like on a Glock or XD). The TLR-3 really works well when you have a picatinny rail with more adjustments (like a HK P30), so you can really move the light close to the trigger guard.

Or you can do what I've seen a few people do, and that's to notch an extra rail slot in the frame to allow the TLR-3 closer to the trigger guard. I've seen a few people do this on their Glock's and the end result was pretty good and perfectly functional.

j1133s
04-27-2011, 1:03 AM
So I am looking for a good tac light for G23 that wont brake the bank?

I used a Glock light for several night shoots and it worked well. At $80 w/ 2 sets of batteries and free holster, it was the cheapest light when I was shopping.

elgreek84
04-27-2011, 9:04 AM
Don't use a light on a Glock 23

why?

Agent Tikki
04-27-2011, 9:12 AM
why?

FWIW, there are reports that weaponlights on .40 S&W Glocks can sometimes induce failures. It is usually attributed to too much weight on the frame. This was addressed with Gen 4's redesign of the recoil rod. The redesigned rods in turn are attributed other problems, so some glock owners are just not putting lights on their Glocks. I personally have a Glock light mine and its plenty bright, easy to use and very light weight.

Kanester
04-27-2011, 9:38 AM
FWIW, there are reports that weaponlights on .40 S&W Glocks can sometimes induce failures. It is usually attributed to too much weight on the frame. This was addressed with Gen 4's redesign of the recoil rod. The redesigned rods in turn are attributed other problems, so some glock owners are just not putting lights on their Glocks. I personally have a Glock light mine and its plenty bright, easy to use and very light weight.

Im glad somone brought this up and I don't mean to threadjack, but was this problem strickly on the .40 Glocks, or did they show up on others? I haven't shot my 9mm Glock at the range yet with the light on because I have read of this happening...Maybe just FUD?

n0xname
04-27-2011, 9:46 AM
The above suggestions are great...but get the stobe model upgrade.....plus they are water proof

Agent Tikki
04-27-2011, 10:24 AM
Im glad somone brought this up and I don't mean to threadjack, but was this problem strickly on the .40 Glocks, or did they show up on others? I haven't shot my 9mm Glock at the range yet with the light on because I have read of this happening...Maybe just FUD?


Logically if the weight of the light is really inducing failures its probably gonna happen on even 9 mm glocks. Keep in mind the 9mm/40/.357 all have the same frames. I'd guess that .40 and .357 will both have the same problem but since the .40 is waaaay more popular, statistically, you'd have more reported problems.

IMO If you have a light. Use it. Practice with it. Go to the range and keep it on. If you can't afford a $200 surefire, don't buy one. $200 will buy a lot of practice and ammo. A Good reliable hand held flashlight will serve you well and will be a lot more useful, when you don't have a gun in your hand.

Foriegn power
04-27-2011, 10:41 AM
Whats the deal with the Glock light I like how it looks on Glocks,

llamatrnr
04-27-2011, 11:27 AM
Whats the deal with the Glock light I like how it looks on Glocks,

I'm 100% happy with mine, yep, 100% :hurray:

biloutkast
04-27-2011, 11:47 AM
TLR-1 130 lumens
TLR-1s 160 lumens w/ strobe
Insight M3 90 lumens (non led)
ITAC Defense WLL1 130 lumens w/strobe & laser

All within $90-$150 range

elgreek84
04-27-2011, 1:20 PM
I seen a video of this issue on youtube with the Gen4s, I hope it isn't affecting the Gen3s, I have yet to try it though. I bought a tlr-1s for my glock 19, but have to pick it up out of jail tomorrow.

Logically if the weight of the light is really inducing failures its probably gonna happen on even 9 mm glocks. Keep in mind the 9mm/40/.357 all have the same frames. I'd guess that .40 and .357 will both have the same problem but since the .40 is waaaay more popular, statistically, you'd have more reported problems.

IMO If you have a light. Use it. Practice with it. Go to the range and keep it on. If you can't afford a $200 surefire, don't buy one. $200 will buy a lot of practice and ammo. A Good reliable hand held flashlight will serve you well and will be a lot more useful, when you don't have a gun in your hand.

CALI SHOT DOC
04-27-2011, 2:27 PM
STREAMLIGHT TLR-1 OR TLR-3

nevil
04-27-2011, 8:01 PM
Thanks for all the input.

scootle
04-27-2011, 10:41 PM
IMO If you have a light. Use it. Practice with it. Go to the range and keep it on. If you can't afford a $200 surefire, don't buy one. $200 will buy a lot of practice and ammo. A Good reliable hand held flashlight will serve you well and will be a lot more useful, when you don't have a gun in your hand.

i think almost all good publications and advice about running a weapon-mounted light indicates that, when possible, a backup hand-held light needs to be available.

part of the problem with weapon-mounted lights is that anything you put the light on will be covered by your business-end of the firearm... which is not a good idea if you are in a situation where you are needing light to navigate or search. (reference gun safety rule #2)

NorCal916
04-27-2011, 10:56 PM
I used a Glock light for several night shoots and it worked well. At $80 w/ 2 sets of batteries and free holster, it was the cheapest light when I was shopping.

Was this purchased from Glock direct?

j1133s
04-28-2011, 1:50 PM
Was this purchased from Glock direct?

I bought it when I was in TX from GT Distributors (a police supply store) a few years back. They were having some kind of Glock event and were giving away the holster w/ purchase and batteries were for the taking (free). I didn't take any batteries (but the light came w/ 2 sets); if I knew how quickly these lights drain batteries, I would have taken some.

The Glock light isn't as bright as some others, but I liked its price and compactness. At night, it seems to work as well as any other tac light; I took it to a few night IDPA matches.

It doesn't work w/ Sig P229R as there is not enough room on the rail to clip it on, but I solved that by cutting (rounding) some plastic on the back of the light.

fifthward
04-28-2011, 5:12 PM
part of the problem with weapon-mounted lights is that anything you put the light on will be covered by your business-end of the firearm... which is not a good idea if you are in a situation where you are needing light to navigate or search. (reference gun safety rule #2)

There is enough ambient, reflective light coming off these weapon mounted lights, that you can have your weapon pointed downward, and still light up what you want to see.

:cool:

NorCal916
04-28-2011, 11:08 PM
I bought it when I was in TX from GT Distributors (a police supply store) a few years back. They were having some kind of Glock event and were giving away the holster w/ purchase and batteries were for the taking (free). I didn't take any batteries (but the light came w/ 2 sets); if I knew how quickly these lights drain batteries, I would have taken some.

The Glock light isn't as bright as some others, but I liked its price and compactness. At night, it seems to work as well as any other tac light; I took it to a few night IDPA matches.

It doesn't work w/ Sig P229R as there is not enough room on the rail to clip it on, but I solved that by cutting (rounding) some plastic on the back of the light.

Thats cool, I have been looking for a good deal on the glock light, I hadn't heard about any free holster deals. Nice Find.. I'm buying a G30 soon and am just a little worried about over hang.. I Need to go checki it out in person I think

BLC
06-07-2011, 8:41 PM
Curious about the TLR-1 on a Glock 30 too, looks like it will fit nicely on my XD Service.