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ronyama
11-20-2006, 5:46 PM
Choate makes a "recoil compensator" that looks like an M14 front sight with a flash supressor. Are these legal for California use on the Mini 14? I have an older 181 series rifle and like the winged front sight.

rayra
11-21-2006, 12:50 AM
Choate makes a "recoil compensator" that looks like an M14 front sight with a flash supressor. Are these legal for California use on the Mini 14? I have an older 181 series rifle and like the winged front sight.You just reminded me of a Mini-14 board that had a long-running topic by a man inventing just such a device and trying to bring it to market. Haven't looked in there in quite a while, have to see what happened...

rayra
11-21-2006, 12:53 AM
Well here's a follow-up topic, about the 'Accu-Strut' - http://perfectunion.com/vb/showthread.php?t=47444 (Mini 14 Accurizing forum)


EDIT and holy toledo, they STILL haven't gone into production. Looks like Choate is stealing their lunch.

rayra
11-21-2006, 12:59 AM
my mistake. That choate part is nothing like what I was referring to.

Creeping Incrementalism
04-27-2007, 8:01 PM
Accu-Struts are now shipping, $75 ea.

http://www.accu-strut.com/

Slugo
04-27-2007, 10:46 PM
http://www.riflestock.com/catalog_page_detail.cfm?recordno=1&Product_CatalogID=2918&ProductNumber=07%2D07%2D14&ProductCode=38&ProductSubCodeID=209&NewProduct=0]

I don't get it. The easiest way to tell the difference between a flash suppressor and a muzzle brake is that flash suppressors have "slots" and muzzle brakes have "holes". Clearly this has slots...yet I want one soooooo bad! :(

Slick
04-27-2007, 11:14 PM
Not to "hi-jack", but could this Mini-14 muzzle break be CA-compliant???->

http://www.johnmasen.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/1438nbfull.gif

I bought one and want to install it, but want to be sure first. It looks just like the one that came on my Springfield (CA-legal) M1A..

TIA~!

saki302
04-27-2007, 11:55 PM
According to the CA definition of 'flash hider', it is a device which redirects or hides flash from the firer's field of view. So according to that, if you have a birdcage style with a hole straight up, putting the flash right into your sight line, is it still a flash hider? Someone needs to write a DOJ agent and get clarification...


I've seen photos of imported guns which clearly have what looks liek flash hiders (FS2000, PS90), yet are not classified as such by the ATF (otherwise they would not be importable). I wonder how ATF determines the hidyness of a muzzle device?

-Dave

hypertex
06-03-2007, 11:15 AM
Should I follow up with a letter? Or will a printout of their email reply be enough?

6/1/2007
Citing several videos showing the rifle being shot, I have emailed the DOJ to make a determination that since there is no perceptible flash, the device on the end of the barrel is not a flash hider by legal definition.

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I have read the SB 23 Final Statement of Reasons in regards to flash suppressors. I would like to be clear as to whether or not the device on the end of the barrel of a FN PS-90 is indeed one of these devices. In evidence, videos of the rifle being fired are available by searching Google videos for the term "PS90" Three examples are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75yOV_DHkr0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjuS77THIiA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHQ8InCd2_o
The examples show the rifle being fired in other than bright daylight and there is noticeable gas, but no flash. In comparison, a search done for the P90, which is a military version and has a much shorter barrel has a noticeable but not prominent flash.
Can you please make a determination saying that the PS90 does not employ a flash suppressor that redirects flash as there is no perceptible flash in the civilian 16-inch barrelled model.
This rifle, re-stocked to eliminate the grips and holes would make a fine sporting rifle.

A reply is requested.

Californio
06-03-2007, 11:41 AM
Choate makes a "recoil compensator" that looks like an M14 front sight with a flash supressor. Are these legal for California use on the Mini 14? I have an older 181 series rifle and like the winged front sight.

I emailed Choate awhile back and they state it is NOT California legal. It is the same unit they have made for over 27 years, by the way.