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rescuerigger
04-24-2011, 12:43 PM
I am looking for feedback on your 1911/22lr conversions or full up 1911 chambered in 22lr. I want to get something to keep up my 1911 skills, so it has to have lock back on last round and same dimensions as full size GI 1911 to fit my holster. (Not the new Browning that is 80% scale)

As far as I know only the old Colt ACE and Advantage Arms conversions have this feature.

Anyone with an ACE, Advantage Arms, full up 1911 chambered in 22lr, or know of any others with lock back that have any personal experiences?

Thanks for your time!!

Ripon83
04-24-2011, 1:27 PM
Sorry I wish I knew about the lock back features of the others. As for dimensions there are several options that are the same size as a 1911 Govt. Model:

Kimber, ACE (not in production) and Marvel all have decent reputations. I don't know what they do on the lock back question but they are all 1911 Govt issue size I believe.

There is a Colt 1911 22 I believe in production but its a presentation gun I think and not rostered, Chiappia and GSG? I think it is each make one also not on our roster. Kimbers' dedicated 22 is on the roster but to me its expensive at $800 to $1k depending on features. All of these, unlike the Browning, are full size but again I don't know if they lock back for you.

PS...just because they are not on the roster does not mean you can't get them; but you have to work throug the hoops of a single shot conversion to do so.

DaveFJ80
04-24-2011, 3:03 PM
The slide on my GSG 1911 .22LR locks back after the last round. Works & operates exactly like my Kimber TLE. Feels the exact same too when in my hands, since it's the exact same dimension as my Kimber.

The only differences is that it's a little lighter to hold, and there's pretty much no recoil at all when you shoot it. Good to practice your stance & grip and also your trigger control.


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e51/mugenef8/FIREARMS/GSG_1911/First/3351.jpg

Gryff
04-24-2011, 3:45 PM
I've had an Ace for 30 years. Absolutely love that gun.

Only thing with the Ace (other than their price) is that the free-floating chamber reduces accuracy. Gives the gun more recoil, though. Fun to shoot a .22, but have it feel like something bigger. And it has all of Colt's traditional quality.

http://www.gryphonevents.com/images/ace.jpg

rescuerigger
04-25-2011, 8:49 AM
I suppose since GSG is made in Germany, they are prety good.

TMC
04-25-2011, 9:28 AM
The Tactical Solutions 22 conversion locks back on the last round. I've had one for 4 years and its dead nuts reliable after 10's of thousands of rounds.

red_eyez
04-25-2011, 9:36 AM
I didn't see GSG 1911 listed on the CA roster, is it CA approved? that's a nice looking 22lr!

morrcarr67
04-25-2011, 9:46 AM
I didn't see GSG 1911 listed on the CA roster, is it CA approved? that's a nice looking 22lr!

Not yet. He got his via single shot. Word on the street is that they have sent it out for testing just waiting for the answer.

red_eyez
04-25-2011, 10:10 AM
morrcarr67 - Thanks for the info.

dstiltner
04-25-2011, 10:15 AM
I have the Advantage Arms .22LR conversion. I use it in on both of my Kimber Target IIs and cannot be happier. It locks back on the last round and has a steel insert where the slide stop contants the slide which is a nice addition since aluminum slides will wear in this area with heavy use.

MongooseV8
04-25-2011, 8:17 PM
I had a Kimber slide conversion for a while and it was a blast. I could shoot 10 rounds into about an 1" at 25 yards with Blazer :eek:

Sold my 45 and got a 10mm and the slide wont work with that 1911 frame so I sold it.

AmoAgave
04-25-2011, 8:18 PM
The slide on my GSG 1911 .22LR locks back after the last round. Works & operates exactly like my Kimber TLE. Feels the exact same too when in my hands, since it's the exact same dimension as my Kimber.

The only differences is that it's a little lighter to hold, and there's pretty much no recoil at all when you shoot it. Good to practice your stance & grip and also your trigger control.


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e51/mugenef8/FIREARMS/GSG_1911/First/3351.jpg

Damn. Very nice looking 1911! I would jump on this if it was a roster gun!

AmoAgave
04-25-2011, 8:27 PM
I'm in the same boat as you. I"m defiantly getting a 22lr pistol soon. Poor selection for CA. Would like a 1911 as well. Personally prefer another gun, rather then a conversion on my current one. Here's Another off roster dedicated 22lr 1911 I was looking at. Has a fixed barrel which is interesting. Not sure if the GSG does. According to this write up it's extremely accurate.

Chiappa M1911
http://www.gunblast.com/Chiappa1911-22.htm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/el_bobbo/Misc/DSC09085.jpg

rescuerigger
04-26-2011, 8:29 AM
Why is all the stuff I want off list??

G lock
04-26-2011, 8:58 AM
22/45 has the same ergonomics as a 1911

rescuerigger
04-26-2011, 11:40 AM
The 22/45 is on my list as well to get, but I still want a 1911/22 to train with and fit in my Blackhawk 1911 fitted holster.

My field is narrowing and the feedback has helped.

Thanks and keep it coming..

Ricky-Ray
04-26-2011, 12:16 PM
I have the Kimber conversion kit works great on my SA 1911 GI and fit's the standard holsters without issues. As for the lock back, I don't remember, it's been a while since I used it but I will this weekend and can get back to you. :)

Ricky-Ray
04-26-2011, 12:17 PM
I use the Serpa CQC holster for my 1911 and it works just fine with the conversion kit.

TMC
04-26-2011, 12:27 PM
Has a fixed barrel which is interesting. Not sure if the GSG does. According to this write up it's extremely accurate.

Chiappa M1911
http://www.gunblast.com/Chiappa1911-22.htm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/el_bobbo/Misc/DSC09085.jpg

A fixed barrel gives really good accuracy when its shot from a Ransom rest. Accuracy suffers when the sight are attached to the moving slide and the barrel is attached to the frame because the two cannot lock together (like in the full size 1911) when the round if fired. Many conversion have sight rails attached to the barrel and the breech moves on a split slide which makes for a more accurate gun.

rescuerigger
04-30-2011, 10:48 AM
Ordered my Advantage Arms kit today. They even answer email on weekends. They are turning them out faster now. only 6-8 weeks back order now but I think I got the one they had on hand.

I think I will search out a "one shot" GSG 1911 as well.

BANG BANG
04-30-2011, 11:33 AM
I'm in the same hunt, either wait for one to get on the roster or single shot route.

anyone know when the Sig 1911 is supposed to be released?

mif_slim
04-30-2011, 12:16 PM
The 22/45 has nothing in common with the 1911 other then the "45" and angle pf the grip. I hate speed loading with it because you can't slam it home like acutal pistols. If you do the floor plate comes off and all the ammo falls out (had it happen to me once or twice..)

I read in another thread here that the gsg1911ca is now ca approved?

BANG BANG
04-30-2011, 1:01 PM
I read in another thread here that the gsg1911ca is now ca approved?

If someone could confirm this I'd be all over one, well after my 30 day period is up :chris:

rescuerigger
04-30-2011, 1:38 PM
The rumor thread is the GSG is being tested. Nothing on the doj list as of this week

cstables
04-30-2011, 1:55 PM
Just looked it up and it was on the CA DOJ list, its under German Sport Guns as the manufacturer... deff gotta get one now!!

Flyingpootang
04-30-2011, 5:20 PM
I use the Serpa CQC holster for my 1911 and it works just fine with the conversion kit.

Kimber .22 slide kits don't lock back, but you can use Black Dog red followers which will lock the slide back after the last round. The down side is if you remove the mag the slide will close. Also you have permanently install a stop to prevent more than 10 rounds being loaded into the mag.

rescuerigger
05-01-2011, 9:08 AM
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/recentlyadded.pdf
Here it is. If someone could confirm this I'd be all over one, well after my 30 day period is up :chris:

sahlomonic
05-01-2011, 10:47 AM
+1 on the GSG 1911. The barrel is fixed to the frame and is not free floating. Accuracy is very nice. And yes slide locks back on the last shot. I held my GSG 1911 and then held my buddy's S&W 1911 and they felt nearly identical, even in weight. I believe a rep from GSG stated that it will accept 80% of the parts from a typical 1911, meaning triggers, safties, grips, sights, MSH, etc.

j1133s
05-01-2011, 1:29 PM
I am looking for feedback on your 1911/22lr conversions or full up 1911 chambered in 22lr. I want to get something to keep up my 1911 skills, so it has to have lock back on last round and same dimensions as full size GI 1911 to fit my holster. (Not the new Browning that is 80% scale)

As far as I know only the old Colt ACE and Advantage Arms conversions have this feature.

Anyone with an ACE, Advantage Arms, full up 1911 chambered in 22lr, or know of any others with lock back that have any personal experiences?

Thanks for your time!!

I don't think the .22lr conversion helps too much w/ anything other than trigger pull. But you can practice that just by dry firing.

I have a Ciener conversion. It keeps the same dimensions allowing holster use; I don't remember if it locks back on last round as I've not used it for at least 7+ yrs.

But locking back is just a simple cut where the slidestop goes; however, I'd imagine that part should be made out of steel instead of AL for durability.

j1133s
05-01-2011, 1:48 PM
actually, I was curious and just checked. My ciener does not lock back after last shot because its magazine didntpush the slidestop up.

If you are interested in buying, it'll come w/ 2 mgs, box, etc. I'm in the bay area too. Oh, very little used.

rescuerigger
05-01-2011, 2:17 PM
I purchased an Advantage Arms. They lock back. But thanks for checking.

j1133s
05-02-2011, 8:30 AM
I purchased an Advantage Arms. They lock back. But thanks for checking.

Congrats. No problem, I've been wanting to shoot my conversion for awhile now. We should do a range trip and shoot conversions.

GM4spd
05-02-2011, 9:09 AM
The SM Ace is costly for sure and with the floating chamber the accuracy
is not as good but the feel/trigger/grip and weight are identical to my Colt
45 autos--the pistol is all steel so it won't ever wear out plus it looks
really cool. Pete

http://www.fototime.com/C3FF8CA1539BEAE/standard.jpg

redcliff
05-02-2011, 10:40 AM
I have a SM Ace that has rounded the slide stop notch twice through heavy use, so the slide won't stay locked open. I have many thousands of rounds through it. Accuracy is decent, but not outstanding.

I also have a Marvel Precision Unit 1. No last round slide lock, but accuracy is pheonomenal and reliability is outstanding. It has a hybrid rail so I can use the built in adjustable sights or mount an optic designed for a Picatinny rail.

The one I have my eye on is the new unit designed by Bob Marvel.. It's being sold by Nighthawk Custom http://www.nighthawktactical.com/22-conversion-units.html I'm waiting for further refiniement on it so that it matches the accuracy of the Marvel Unit 1 then Ill probably pick one up.