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JaredJamison1
11-20-2006, 9:30 AM
I have decided to purchase an AR15 and when I am on a few websites there are so many to choose from (Brands, accesories, different models, etc.). What do you guys/gals reccomend? I am willing to spend up to about $1,500 and would like to have a 30 round magazine (I just moved to Nevada).

Thanks for any help.

trouble
11-20-2006, 9:42 AM
I have decided to purchase a car and when I am on a few websites there are so many to choose from (Brands, accesories, different models, etc.). What do you guys/gals reccomend? I am willing to spend up to about $1,500......


Um, why don't you start with what you want to do with it first, and what key features (if any) are important to you?

mltrading
11-20-2006, 9:48 AM
For buyer: Spend $$$ as little as possible to get best stuff.
For sellers: To sell as much $$$ as possible.

Seriously, a little bid more description of your idea would be helpful. (Such as long-range precision sniper, tacti-cool or just paper puncher..... etc):)

JPglee1
11-20-2006, 9:49 AM
I have decided to purchase an AR15 and when I am on a few websites there are so many to choose from (Brands, accesories, different models, etc.). What do you guys/gals reccomend? I am willing to spend up to about $1,500 and would like to have a 30 round magazine (I just moved to Nevada).

Thanks for any help.

Go for CMMG or Bushmaster.

Get an M4 clone with a 14.7" barrel and a permanent flash hider.

I personally don't get into optics and such so an A2 is my preference, but if you want optics and BUIS than get an A3.

Good luck.


J


P.S. Should be able to have a NICE rifle for about 2/3 of your price goal, in Free Amerika, with some frugal shopping.

JaredJamison1
11-20-2006, 9:58 AM
Smart *** replys are really not needed. If this question is "stupid" simply move on.

It will primarily be used for target shooting, home defense, and to just have fun with. So far I would like it to have a bi-pod and 30 round mag. Other than that I am open to any and all suggestions.

Thanks again.

shark92651
11-20-2006, 10:13 AM
I have decided to purchase an AR15 and when I am on a few websites there are so many to choose from (Brands, accesories, different models, etc.). What do you guys/gals reccomend? I am willing to spend up to about $1,500 and would like to have a 30 round magazine (I just moved to Nevada).

Thanks for any help.

Jared,

I'd start by looking at lots and lots of gun porn. Here is a great thread:

http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=230097

I aplogize in advance if what I just did was equivilent to handing an addict a crack pipe.

The Professional
11-20-2006, 10:21 AM
Nice eye candies!

JPglee1
11-20-2006, 11:16 AM
Smart *** replys are really not needed. If this question is "stupid" simply move on.

It will primarily be used for target shooting, home defense, and to just have fun with. So far I would like it to have a bi-pod and 30 round mag. Other than that I am open to any and all suggestions.

Thanks again.


I would get this for $1190:

http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/Images/BCWA3Y16SL.jpg
http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/bcwa3y16sl.asp

For me, its exactly what I'd want (except I'd want a true A2 upper, but close enough)

Short entry stock (lighter than M4 stock, and Cali legal)
16" barrel light profile barrel
M4 handguards

Wouldn't be good for massive ammo dumps tho, would melt/bend the barrel if you abused it hard. Would be perfect for in a house or a hiking/camping/truck gun.

Also this option for $1075:

http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/images/526.jpg
http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/?shop=1&cart=484637&cat=32&



Those are the 2 I like, but I have specific "desires" in my AR-15 requirements. I want short, light, fast. I don't plan to use an AR-15 as a LMG or suppressive fire weapon so I want it to be as light as it can be. I like the entry-length A2 stock because its the same length as the moddle setting on the CAR-15 3 position style stock and its 1/2 pound lighter than the CAR stock :D

In a perfect world, we could have NFA gear, and this would be on the wish list:

http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/images/662.jpg


JP

JPglee1
11-20-2006, 11:22 AM
http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/images/661.jpg
This XM177-style clone is as close as we can get in California to an 11.5" SBR.

You'd need to pin the mag to use this upper, or have an insert made to go inside the flash hider and tack welded on permanently, and the stock would need to be locked (which is why I like the entry-length stock) and you'd have to ditch the pistol grip.

If you live in Nevada you can get any of these ARs including the 11.5" SBR model.

:D


Hope that answer was a little less "smartass" for you

JP

Smokeybehr
11-20-2006, 12:07 PM
Jared,

I'd start by looking at lots and lots of gun porn. Here is a great thread:

http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=230097

I aplogize in advance if what I just did was equivilent to handing an addict a crack pipe.

You bastard! I went through a whole box of kleenex looking at that thread! :D

Seriously, there were some nice looking builds there.

grywlfbg
11-20-2006, 12:38 PM
Hmm. W/ that budget and your thought of home defense, I'd factor in an EOTech - much better in CQB than irons.

I have this:
http://www.rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=AR1200X&storeid=1&image=06taca4d.gif&CFID=27784478&CFTOKEN=84213932

RRA Tactical CAR A4. w/ the Dominator mount and an EOTech holosight. It gives me a lower 1/3 co-witness w/ the irons. http://www.hunt101.com/img/430906-big.jpg

I have the EOTech zero'd at 25 yards and the irons at 100.

You can just buy it as a complete rifle - you didn't state where in NV you were but there's a good shop in Carson City - mreguns.com That carries Rock River.

Rifle street price is $850, $75 for the bipod, EOTech $350. Easily w/in your budget.

If you want to shot at further distances, you may look at the Elite CAR A4 - it has a mid-length handguard which will slightly decrease recoil and move the front site further down the barrel (increased sight radius).

My $0.02.

JaredJamison1
11-20-2006, 1:56 PM
Thanks for the input so far guys! Keep it coming.

Prc329
11-20-2006, 2:02 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/naytwan/_MG_2484.jpg

Just finished it. cost me under $1000 to build.

Bushmaster M4 upper (purchased used with the Olympics rails)
Stag lower
DPMS buttstock
Promag 10 round mag
stag parts kit
prince 50 mag lock.
DPMS Muzzle Break

Paul
11-20-2006, 5:51 PM
Smart *** replys are really not needed. If this question is "stupid" simply move on.

It will primarily be used for target shooting, home defense, and to just have fun with. So far I would like it to have a bi-pod and 30 round mag. Other than that I am open to any and all suggestions.

Thanks again.

Don't take this wrong - which you might be prone to do it seems - but your first question was pretty lame. You will have to admit that as the AR can be anything from a single shot .50 BMG, to a CQB, a designated riflemen's rifle, to a semi-automatic sniper rifle. Any of those weapons can be used for home defense, target shooting, or just to have fun. Strike the .50 BMG as they don't make a 30 round magazine in .50 BMG - but you couldn't carry it anyways. :)

I have been buying Bushmaster rifles and uppers for more than ten years and haven't found a thing wrong with them. They make nearly any combination of barrel, muzzle treatment, grips/furniture, and sights known to man. And if they don't put the ones you want in the catalog give them a call and I promise you they'll put one together to match your configuration if it's at all possible.

I've built CQB weapons with red dot 'o death, back up iron sights, collapsable stocks, and light weight barrels. I've built a designated rifleman's weapon with a nice long barrel, ACOG, and fullsize stocks. I have a "sniper" rifle with match chamber, voodo majic barrel, 2 ounce trigger, and a scope nearly as big as the weapon. All of these are fun, can be used for home defense, and can hit the target at any distance that I can see the target. Any of them accept either a bipod on a stud or the clip-on nylon type bipod.

The beauty of the AR is that it can do any thing. :D

sniper_jay
11-20-2006, 9:37 PM
for $1500, you can build two nice looking M4's.. but if you don't want the hassle of looking for deals, simply go to Stagarms.com or CMMGinc.com and pick one out. good luck and enjoy.. i wish i lived in nevada..
by the way, CMMG will hook you up with free 30 rounders, cleaning kit and a hardcase for free.

PIRATE14
11-20-2006, 11:01 PM
My .02 is buy a COLT 6920 if your going to live in Nevada........you'll have a great rifle.

If you don't get a COLT go RRA, STAG, or Bushmaster, once you get the disease you can go on from there.......:D

Crazed_SS
11-21-2006, 12:00 AM
Smart *** replys are really not needed. If this question is "stupid" simply move on.

It will primarily be used for target shooting, home defense, and to just have fun with. So far I would like it to have a bi-pod and 30 round mag. Other than that I am open to any and all suggestions.

Thanks again.

An OLL rifle would be my last choice for any defensive purpose.

I'd grab a SKS before a fixed-mag or gripless OLL.

randy
11-21-2006, 3:59 AM
If you want the best shooters, they might not be the most mall ninja looking stuff the some of the top action shooters in the country use www.jprifles.com or www.mstn.biz An upper will cost you more than most complete guns. They shoot sub MOA some of the features they come with:
adjustable gas blocks, carbon fiber hand guards, great comps, lightened operating systems. Options choice of twist rates, barrel fluting, finish.
Good luck

JPglee1
11-21-2006, 5:29 AM
An OLL rifle would be my last choice for any defensive purpose.

I'd grab a SKS before a fixed-mag or gripless OLL.


LOL, yer crazy.

I have a FAL, Ive shot a gripless AR and an SKS, and the SKS wouldn't be my first choice in SHTF...

Lets see, gripless AR + legal 30rd mags = happy survivor hahaha.

Besides in a TRUE defensive, SHTF situation Im sure most people would put their pistol grip back on.

Now, after Jan 1, 2007 we should be able to put AK mags into non-SKS marked zastavas...then you'd have a cool weapon for sure.



JP

Crazed_SS
11-22-2006, 12:38 AM
Well, obviously during SHTF, then all bets are off..

But in a home defense scenario, I dont think a gripless rifle would be the best weapon to grab. There's nothing to grab and get a good cheek weld and firm grip, etc. I dunno.. I was taught to shoot the M-16 in the Marines, and the grip was an integral part of the shooting fundamentals... that's why I said grabbing the SKS would make more sense.

Everyone's different though I guess..