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mnh327
04-23-2011, 1:00 PM
http://www.smithandwessonforums.com/forum/ammo-forum/77-faq-my-p-study.html

Anyone read this before. Very interesting. Points out that +P ammo of today is weaker than standard ammo of the past? Does that mean you don't have to worry about using +P in guns not specified for it?

Andy Taylor
04-23-2011, 2:33 PM
Yes, well aware of it.
Today's standard .38 Special is weak compared to pre-1970's standard .38 Special.
Today's +P is equivelent to Pre-1970's Standard .38 Special.
Pre-1970's Hi-Vel, Super-Vel, .38-44, etc .38 Special is equivelent to many of today's low to mid powered .357 magnum loads.

So by that measure, I do not worry about modern +P in any post WWII .38 Special made by a known maker of QUALITY firearms.

Pre WWII firearms lacked the heat treatment of later weapons, and I would only use it in pre WWII firearms meant for warm loads such as S&W .38-44s, .357 Magnums, and/or Colt New Service revolvers.

cv0lv0g0
04-23-2011, 4:27 PM
cool

Munk
04-23-2011, 5:05 PM
An even shorter timeframe power reduction can be seen in 10mm Auto. They neutered that in a major way.

To get real power levels, you're pretty much forced to reload these days.

Helpful_Cub
04-23-2011, 5:13 PM
An even shorter timeframe power reduction can be seen in 10mm Auto. They neutered that in a major way.

To get real power levels, you're pretty much forced to reload these days.

DoubleTap will load ammo that's right on the edge of the standards if you don't reload and want some really zippy ammo.
http://www.doubletapammo.com

Jonathan Doe
04-23-2011, 8:02 PM
Either standard load or +P will do the job. No need for additional pressure of +P load. I know some agencies went from +P RA45T to standard RA45T rounds.