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afcbasser
04-23-2011, 5:28 AM
ruger vs marlin
it basically seems to come down to this simply due to the massive amount of these floating around.
i'm not really trying to dress it up, i'm just wondering if anyone out there has something to say about which barrel is better.

and which trigger is nicer

and if there are any other deals i should be looking for from other brands.

XDRoX
04-23-2011, 5:37 AM
The Marlin is going to be more accurate out of the box. But for plinking I don't think you'll notice much. I wouldn't let accuracy be the deciding factor. Unless it's going to be a bench rifle, then you'd never know.

I like the Marlin 60. Cool little tube fed rifle.

azlester
04-23-2011, 6:45 AM
The Marlin will be more accurate. It feels better when shooting too, more like a real rifle. The Ruger feels like a kids gun to me. I like the trigger better on the Marlin too. The model 60 and the model 795 are the same gun except for the stocks and the 795 uses magazines instead of the tube feed. I like my 795 alot.

hybridatsun350
04-23-2011, 7:09 AM
I'm a Ruger fan myself, but have experience with the Marlin 60 and they are good little guns, as well. I don't know what your intentions are for the rifle, but the Ruger 10/22 is infinitely customizable. i.e. going to a better barrel and better trigger are as easy as 1-2-3 and you'll easily outshoot any Marlin.

The Savage 64 is another option. They've got a model called the 64 TRR-SR that is pretty sweet. Not cheap, but cool!

azlester
04-23-2011, 11:37 AM
I'm a Ruger fan myself, but have experience with the Marlin 60 and they are good little guns, as well. I don't know what your intentions are for the rifle, but the Ruger 10/22 is infinitely customizable. i.e. going to a better barrel and better trigger are as easy as 1-2-3 and you'll easily outshoot any Marlin.

The Savage 64 is another option. They've got a model called the 64 TRR-SR that is pretty sweet. Not cheap, but cool!

The OP asked

"i'm not really trying to dress it up, i'm just wondering if anyone out there has something to say about which barrel is better.

and which trigger is nicer?"

He didn't ask which one you could spend the most money on to get a better barrel and trigger group on. The Marlin Micro Groove barrel is the better barrel out of the box over the 10/22 and the Savage and the Mossberg. It will even stand up to some of the expensive replacement barrels that people put on their 10/22. The Marlin trigger is also better then the 10/22 out of the box. The Marlin trigger is also easier to fine tune with little to no cost involved(fluff and buff) then the 10/22. The Marlin has last shot bolt hold open the 10/22 does not. The Marlin comes with sling studs the 10/22 does not. The blue 795 has a $25 rebate on it for this year and the 10/22 does not(making the Marlin an even better value)

The Marlin trigger group like the 10/22 can be upgraded. The Marlin also has a source for large capicity mags(25 rounds) like the 10/22 does. The Marlin also has custom stocks available like the 10/22 does. But none of this matters because the OP didn't ask which one has more or better options.

afcbasser
04-23-2011, 1:31 PM
thanks guys. that was very decisive.

Fish-n-Shoot
04-23-2011, 2:40 PM
Read my post in the rimfire thread. You'll see.

nevil
04-24-2011, 7:55 PM
I have both and the Marlin Model 60 shoots way more true. You can't go wrong with a mico groove barrel.

pennys dad
04-24-2011, 8:57 PM
Marlin 60 then Marlin 795

afcbasser
04-29-2011, 2:48 PM
picking one up on cinco de mayo!

Big Shrek
04-29-2011, 4:16 PM
Don't forget, the 795 has a $25 rebate :)

I pimped mine out...:D
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/786951/fullsize/

Take the time to use some sandpaper on the Marlin Trigger, you take the t/g out, and work the "P" area until its butter-smooth.
Replace the spring in the guard with one from an old 3.5 floppy diskette, and it'll give you a lighter pull :)

Optimal is to replace the T/G & trigger with one from Diversified Innovative Products...best 60/795 replacement on the market :)

trickyvic
04-29-2011, 4:40 PM
Marlin wins this one hands down. I'm typically not a benchrest shooter, in fact I rarely shoot benched. This is what my 3x scoped Marlin 60 can do with the front of the rifle rested on sandbags at 25yds. This stock 60 seems to really love CCI SV.

I also used to own a 10/22 and after a bunch of mods it just shot the same as this $160 60.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e17/trickyvic/bebb4ae7.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e17/trickyvic/9924b995.jpg

Flyingpootang
04-29-2011, 5:00 PM
Out of the box 10/22 are kinda rough. The biggest down side is the triggers have a heavy pull. With a 40.00 investment you can get it to shoot very tight 1/2 groups or better at 25 yards using bulk ammo. All you need to do is remove the front barrel band (not needed), free float the barrel 2 1/2" after the receiver, bed the action with JB weld, and buy a Power Custom hammer/sear/spring/shim kit which will bring your pull weight to 2 1/4 pounds. Ruger barrels are awesome and most often over looked. Doing all of the above work is very easy to do with little to no experience needed. Videos can be found on YouTube and Google searching. The best thing about 10/22 are accessories and upgrades are very cheap. If you need help or guidance pm me..

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5069/5665201080_01f1154a4e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/57125151@N06/5665201080/)
P1020320 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/57125151@N06/5665201080/) by flyingpootang (http://www.flickr.com/people/57125151@N06/), on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5268/5664619069_0d603b7943.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/57125151@N06/5664619069/)
P1020316 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/57125151@N06/5664619069/) by flyingpootang (http://www.flickr.com/people/57125151@N06/), on Flickr

afcbasser
05-05-2011, 4:26 AM
this thread's still going!

azlester
05-05-2011, 5:42 AM
Out of the box 10/22 are kinda rough. The biggest down side is the triggers have a heavy pull. With a 40.00 investment you can get it to shoot very tight 1/2 groups or better at 25 yards using bulk ammo. All you need to do is remove the front barrel band (not needed), free float the barrel 2 1/2" after the receiver, bed the action with JB weld, and buy a Power Custom hammer/sear/spring/shim kit which will bring your pull weight to 2 1/4 pounds. Ruger barrels are awesome and most often over looked. Doing all of the above work is very easy to do with little to no experience needed. Videos can be found on YouTube and Google searching. The best thing about 10/22 are accessories and upgrades are very cheap. If you need help or guidance pm me..

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5069/5665201080_01f1154a4e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/57125151@N06/5665201080/)
P1020320 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/57125151@N06/5665201080/) by flyingpootang (http://www.flickr.com/people/57125151@N06/), on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5268/5664619069_0d603b7943.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/57125151@N06/5664619069/)
P1020316 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/57125151@N06/5664619069/) by flyingpootang (http://www.flickr.com/people/57125151@N06/), on Flickr

The OP asked wich was more accurate out of the box, not how much you have to spend in additional parts to get the Ruger 10/22 to shoot anywhere near as well as the Marlin 60/795 do!

Sanderhawk
05-05-2011, 5:46 AM
My ruger 10/22 is dead accurate right out of the box. Maybe the sighting guy was having a good day at the plant.

nbkvig2
05-05-2011, 7:15 AM
My 10/22 is very accurate out of the box too...I also shot my friend's Marlin, might be the 795...it is also very accurate. I would say the concensus is that Marlin is more accurate but I wouldn't trade my ruger for it. If you're just looking for pure out of box accuracy, maybe Marlin is a better choice. But I know I chose the Ruger because of the low maint, and their excellent customer service support (if I ever need it). Also I'll tell you this right now, LOADING MARLIN mags is a PITA!!! The Ruger mag is much easier to load and you won't have a sore thumb at the end of the day.

chesterthehero
05-05-2011, 3:55 PM
i enjoy shooting my marlin much more than my 10/22... the 10/22 is great and all.. but its not my marlin..

BigDogatPlay
05-05-2011, 7:37 PM
My vote goes to Marlin, 60 or 795. Most 10-22's are pretty decent out of the box, but after owning them all at one time or another, Marlin is the winner for me. 10-22's are way more fun to build on, of course, and can be made into absolute tack drivers but at a cost.

Nice take above on the Savage as well. These are often overlooked and their bolt guns are the shizz right out of the box, IMO.

Furncliff
05-07-2011, 8:36 AM
Marlin for me. I have two, they are surprisingly accurate (I shoot off the bench mostly because of a hand tremor). Mostly I shoot bulk ammo in them, but put some target ammo in the tube and watch the groups shrink.

Both of mine had heavy gritty triggers, one I have massaged to where it's acceptable, the other I'm still working on. It's just a given on a $150-200 rifle.

Rimfirecentral.com and go to the Marlin section there's a sticky on trigger work.

Don't shoot Hyper Velocity ammo in them as it destroyers the buffer.

Boyds Gun Stock has a nice thumbhole stock for them. Though I think they are laminated now.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/892/dsc01321i.jpg

bombadillo
05-07-2011, 8:41 AM
Out of the box accuracy, marlin wins every time IMO. For aftermarket and being able to fine tune, and tweak things, 10/22 hands down. You can ultimately make a tack driver 10/22 so much easier but its going to be a few bucks before its up to par with the marlin from my experience. Every Marlin 60 or otherwise, even my 795 and Revelation Western Auto Parts .22 is more accurate than the 10/22 I owned. I actually sold the 10/22 and have 3 Marlin 22's now. I guess I just prefer marlin over the Ruger for that particular style of rifle.

John P
05-09-2011, 3:16 PM
The OP asked

The Marlin also has a source for large capicity mags(25 rounds) like the 10/22 does. The Marlin also has custom stocks available like the 10/22 does. But none of this matters because the OP didn't ask which one has more or better options.

Where can I purchase a large capacity mag for my Marlin 795?

Flyingpootang
05-09-2011, 3:27 PM
The OP asked wich was more accurate out of the box, not how much you have to spend in additional parts to get the Ruger 10/22 to shoot anywhere near as well as the Marlin 60/795 do!

Internet police :eek:
Out of the box Rugers are accurate as stated by previous post. Just so I don't get a net ticket I was giving an example how little more had to be done to make it really accurate. Don't so offended that I didn't regurgitate on you pushing how great your "Marlin 60/795" is. It's just my opinion so need to get your panties in a bunch.:mad:

Flyingpootang
05-09-2011, 3:30 PM
this thread's still going!

Yeah, but the Net Police showed up so the party is over LOL.

GunzNHoses89
05-09-2011, 4:38 PM
My ruger 10/22 is dead accurate right out of the box. Maybe the sighting guy was having a good day at the plant.

I agree. I was surprised at just how dead on my new 10/22 was. Wasnt expecting it to be so accurate, it was a nice surprise!