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bu-bye
11-19-2006, 10:07 PM
Ran across this over on ARFCOM and I just had to laugh.:rolleyes:

http://www.safestshot.com/

creampuff
11-19-2006, 10:11 PM
Is it me, or does it look like there is a chance of the brass bouncing back off the wall, and causing a jam, if you need to turn the corner to the right?

I'll make sure I will only confront the bad guys on corners where I have to turn left :) :) .

C.G.
11-19-2006, 10:31 PM
I believe that only LEOs can buy these, anyway.

bu-bye
11-19-2006, 10:40 PM
I believe that only LEOs can buy these, anyway.

HAHAHAHA

Finaly, something only LEO can have and I want no part of it:D

the_foxtrot
11-19-2006, 10:55 PM
i think the corner shot (http://www.cornershot.com/) is a far superior product.

Stanze
11-19-2006, 11:53 PM
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4280/gunman1combined2lcx6.jpg

Shoot through the drywall. http://www.theboxotruth.com

five.five-six
11-20-2006, 12:01 AM
Is it me, or does it look like there is a chance of the brass bouncing back off the wall, and causing a jam, if you need to turn the corner to the right?

I'll make sure I will only confront the bad guys on corners where I have to turn left :) :) .



errr, you just get a stag DUHH!

creampuff
11-20-2006, 1:14 AM
errr, you just get a stag DUHH!
But then I won't be able turn left.

:)

Unless I carry both.

five.five-six
11-20-2006, 5:23 AM
But then I won't be able turn left.

:)

Unless I carry both.


lol

hoiutyfulk

5968
11-20-2006, 5:27 AM
What will they come up with next??

luvtolean
11-20-2006, 5:59 AM
***PING-Toolbox X-you need to look at this for your patent.

If they patented this system already, that is some pretty similar prior art.

m1371
11-20-2006, 6:39 AM
***PING-Toolbox X-you need to look at this for your patent.

If they patented this system already, that is some pretty similar prior art.

It might be worth looking into "just in case", but.....

I would think there are enough significant differences between Toolbox's U-15 grip/stock and this in both design and intent to not cause any problems.

luvtolean
11-20-2006, 7:27 AM
If that "bent stock" contraption was mine, the U-15 stock would be in violation of my patent, I assure you.

I have several patents. When you file to get them, you grab as many claims as possible. It's not just for one thing. That separate buffer/stock combo would've been part of my IP if it was at all possible to grab.

And if the buffer/stock combo is not patentable, I don't see much in Toolbox's product that is.

Satex
11-20-2006, 7:33 AM
They have had corner shot rifles since WWII. The Nazis were the first to field such a rifle late in the war.
Every few years someone reinvents this wheel and talks about how its the greatest thing since pre-sliced bread. And every few years, it fades onto an unknown page in history.
I think that the Discovery channel had this type of rifle on their Future Weapons show. It was an Israeli version with an LCD camera and other widgets. Just like the others, I suspect it will go away.

luvtolean
11-20-2006, 7:35 AM
They actually had a "round the corner" device for the StG 44. Pretty interesting.

We had them for grease guns too.

m1371
11-20-2006, 7:46 AM
If that "bent stock" contraption was mine, the U-15 stock would be in violation of my patent, I assure you.

I have several patents. When you file to get them, you grab as many claims as possible. It's not just for one thing. That separate buffer/stock combo would've been part of my IP if it was at all possible to grab.

And if the buffer/stock combo is not patentable, I don't see much in Toolbox's product that is.

So for example, you're saying that once somebody patents the design of ANY collapsible stock everyone else is SOL? They all perform the same function, but there are dozens of manufacturers producing collapsible stocks.

Different intent for the design of the buttstock and different attachment point.

luvtolean
11-20-2006, 8:01 AM
It all gets down to how the claims were filed.

"Intent" doesn't matter too much.

If someone had a patent on the collapsible stock, it has probably already run out. It's not exactly a new idea. Otherwise, every company is in violation and exposed to risk of suit. If nobody has thought to patent it, and someone did, they would have a claim to royalties going forward.

But yes, it doesn't matter how many people are doing it, if you own the IP, and your patent is active, you could sue everyone for using your invention.

And this can be a very lucrative biz, whole companies exist just to do this...the company that sued the makers of the Blackberry had stupid ambiguous patents, have never, and will never produce any kind of product (other than lawsuits) and caused RIM monumental headaches.

ARRRR-15
11-20-2006, 8:01 AM
I think that the Discovery channel had this type of rifle on their Future Weapons show. It was an Israeli version with an LCD camera and other widgets. Just like the others, I suspect it will go away.


Is this what you are talking about?

http://www.military.com/pics/SoldierTech_Corner1.jpg
http://www.military.com/pics/SoldierTech_Corner3.jpg
http://www.haborumuveszete.hu/rovatok/fegyverek/lo/corner_shot/corner_shot_4.jpg
http://www.haborumuveszete.hu/rovatok/fegyverek/lo/corner_shot/corner_shot_7.jpg

Fate
11-20-2006, 8:50 AM
[QUOTE=ARRRR-15]Is this what you are talking about?
http://www.haborumuveszete.hu/rovatok/fegyverek/lo/corner_shot/corner_shot_4.jpg

An AR-15/AK47 round or anything >.308 would go right thru that cinder block too. Concealment doesn't always equal COVER.

The Professional
11-20-2006, 10:25 AM
Similar to Cornershot that was shown @ the Future Weapons show.