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Colt-45
04-22-2011, 5:03 PM
:rant:
:mad:The Colt .38 Super first came out in 1929. Spread the word. Tell your dad, tell your uncles, tell your grandpa.

I've come across too many douche bags that think it first came out in 1911. They swear by it:rolleyes:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y242/eL_OriGinaL650/Supersegunda.png
(http://www.coltautos.com/1911a1_Super38.htm)

Serial #1 dates to 1929. If you don't believe the internet call Colt;).

/end rant.:rant:

Sorry guys I had to vent this somewhere.

El Gato
04-22-2011, 5:06 PM
#1+@ is in my safe.....very old school niceness

JanG
04-22-2011, 5:22 PM
and i have to content myself with a rock island variant :(

Ripon83
04-22-2011, 5:26 PM
The RIA variant isn't all that bad...but I'd probably only buy it to make it a 9mm. Do you have this list you produced for the 38 super on the Colt Govt. 9mm? That is my "holly grail" of hand guns next to a Colt Ace that I want to buy.....

WTB
Colt Govt 9mm
Colt Ace
Colt Python

After that I think I got all I ever want....

and i have to content myself with a rock island variant :(

Colt-45
04-22-2011, 5:28 PM
Oh, and I forgot to add, the Colt .38 Super is a 1911 MODEL, that doesn't mean the Colt .38 Super was born in 1911:rolleyes:. :banghead:

The Colt .45 was the one born in 1911 :D

and i have to content myself with a rock island variant :(

Cheer up, when the roster falls the more affordable, recent Colt .38 Supers will be available.:)

But yea, the old ones will remain expensive. With those it's not about the roster, it's about rarity.

Ripon83
04-22-2011, 5:31 PM
You had two Colts listed in the market place yesterday didn't you? They were really nice - out of my range - but really nice.


Oh, and I forgot to add, the Colt .38 Super is a 1911 MODEL, that doesn't mean the Colt .38 Super was born in 1911:rolleyes:. :banghead:

The Colt .45 was the one born in 1911 :D



Cheer up, when the roster falls the more affordable, recent Colt .38 Supers will be available.:)

But yea, the old ones will remain expensive. With those it's not about the roster, it's about rarity.

12voltguy
04-22-2011, 5:33 PM
Oh, and I forgot to add, the Colt .38 Super is a 1911 MODEL, that doesn't mean the Colt .38 Super was born in 1911:rolleyes:. :banghead:

The Colt .45 was the one born in 1911 :D



Cheer up, when the roster falls the more affordable, recent Colt .38 Supers will be available.:)

But yea, the old ones will remain expensive. With those it's not about the roster, it's about rarity.

wow, it bothers you that much?:smilielol5::smilielol5:
maybe those guys arguing with you know it upsets you so,lol

Colt-45
04-22-2011, 5:36 PM
wow, it bothers you that much?:smilielol5::smilielol5:

Yes it does.:mad: lol

It's my version of the Magazines=Clips and calling semi-auto rifles assault weapons that annoys others.

I tell them the facts, give them the evidence and they still think it was born in 1911 because I'm young and I don't know anything lol:facepalm:

I'm sure others have had this experience.

Bigtwin
04-22-2011, 5:39 PM
Yes it does.:mad: lol

It's my version of the Magazines=Clips and calling semi-auto rifles assault weapons that annoys others.

You tell them the facts, give them the evidence and they still think it was born in 1911.:facepalm:

So be it, some folks were born stupid and some not! Don't let that rage you so much.lol

para38super
04-22-2011, 6:00 PM
LOL

Inside joke.

Colt-45
04-22-2011, 6:29 PM
LOL

Inside joke.

Inside joke that only a certain kind of people will understand.:D

Most people here think I'm exaggerating.

11011500a
04-22-2011, 6:43 PM
1929 38acp update with new pistol in 38super in the 50's?

cv0lv0g0
04-22-2011, 6:50 PM
LOL the 38. was the answer to early armor and car doors ill join in on your rant:rant::tank:

Colt-45
04-22-2011, 6:55 PM
1929 38acp update with new pistol in 38super in the 50's?

I didn't understand your question. If it's about the chart, the complete chart is on the website provided above. It goes from 1929 to 1971, after that came the S70 and the modern Colts, those aren't on the chart. The chart is also on the proofhouse website as well.

para38super
04-22-2011, 6:57 PM
1929 38acp update with new pistol in 38super in the 50's?

?
We are not talking about 38 acp. The 38 super was created in 1929 not the 38 acp.

11011500a
04-22-2011, 9:30 PM
Ok somehow I got myself confused anytime I read anything about the 1911 38super's it always referred to the earlier ACP's and could not fire super out of it, two different guns two different cartridges. For the life of me I can't remember what I read that made it sound like something note worthy happened in the 50's for the super. It was the 70's when the +P was added, a little time with google I'll get it figured out.

fennecfrank
04-23-2011, 7:41 AM
Yes it does.:mad: lol

It's my version of the Magazines=Clips and calling semi-auto rifles assault weapons that annoys others.

I tell them the facts, give them the evidence and they still think it was born in 1911 because I'm young and I don't know anything lol:facepalm:

I'm sure others have had this experience.

I feel you brother. Not too long ago, I posted 2 quick posts teaching people how to take out the cylinder from their colt python. then came this guy who claimed 40+ years of experience on Colt revolvers, saying my posts were wrong and one can never take cylinder out that way. My quick post (done in a few minutes cause I was in a hurry to head to work) and lack of vocabulary became fuel of the fire as he tried to burn my posts.

Finally did a youtube video and posted it out. Never heard from the guy since.....

I was very p#$$ed off at those online "self-proclaimed" expert who claimed all those years of experiences (that guy claimed 40+ years after I said I've had 10+ years of experience)

Mickey D
04-23-2011, 8:24 AM
Oh, and I forgot to add, the Colt .38 Super is a 1911 MODEL, that doesn't mean the Colt .38 Super was born in 1911:rolleyes:. :banghead:

The Colt .45 was the one born in 1911 :D



Cheer up, when the roster falls the more affordable, recent Colt .38 Supers will be available.:)

But yea, the old ones will remain expensive. With those it's not about the roster, it's about rarity.

I beg to differ, the commercial Colt .45 and .38 Super are Government Models.
The M1911 is a miltary designation of the original design platform JM Browniing. Everyone has generalized the design to 1911, like Kleenex is to facial tissues.

Colt-45
04-23-2011, 10:09 AM
I beg to differ, the commercial Colt .45 and .38 Super are Government Models.
The M1911 is a miltary designation of the original design platform JM Browniing. Everyone has generalized the design to 1911, like Kleenex is to facial tissues.

I didn't say the commercial Colt .45 and the .38 were not Government Models. I said they are BOTH 1911's . The Colt .45 was born in the YEAR 1911, was it not?

If you want to be extremely specific and bring in the "M'" and the "A1" designations that's fine with me BUT you will confuse 95% of calgunners. The purpose of this thread is to educate and so far I haven't spread any fud.

The Colt .38 Super came out in 1929, the Colt .45 came out in 1911. Weather it came out for commercial or military purposes is beyond me beyond this thread, I'm more concerned about when it FIRST came out.

Alarm Guy
04-23-2011, 3:41 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_Super

Mickey D
04-23-2011, 3:50 PM
I didn't say the commercial Colt .45 and the .38 were not Government Models. I said they are BOTH 1911's . The Colt .45 was born in the YEAR 1911, was it not?

If you want to be extremely specific and bring in the "M'" and the "A1" designations that's fine with me BUT you will confuse 95% of calgunners. The purpose of this thread is to educate and so far I haven't spread any fud.

The Colt .38 Super came out in 1929, the Colt .45 came out in 1911. Weather it came out for commercial or military purposes is beyond me, I'm more concerned about when it FIRST came out.

Excuse me, don't get your panties in a wad.

westcoast362
04-23-2011, 7:37 PM
I think it was originally called "super .38"

Mickey D
04-23-2011, 7:45 PM
I didn't say the commercial Colt .45 and the .38 were not Government Models. I said they are BOTH 1911's . The Colt .45 was born in the YEAR 1911, was it not?

If you want to be extremely specific and bring in the "M'" and the "A1" designations that's fine with me BUT you will confuse 95% of calgunners. The purpose of this thread is to educate and so far I haven't spread any fud.

The Colt .38 Super came out in 1929, the Colt .45 came out in 1911. Weather it came out for commercial or military purposes is beyond me, I'm more concerned about when it FIRST came out.

If your original intent is to educate the forum members, do it right. The .38 Super is not a 1911 Model. It's a Government Model. Yes it's evidently beyond you.

Beside, who on this forum cares that the .38 Super was born in 1929, except you?

El Gato
04-23-2011, 8:16 PM
Just for the record... a colt 38 super with a 3 digit serial number ain't for shootin' much... and it ain't much good at shootin' by the way... the headspace on the rim thing didn't work out so well... but it is beautiful... and in the first 200 made.. and I LOVE the cartridge but I have been unfaithful... I now own two springer 9mm 5 in guns and the ammo is way cheaper and the guns are really accurate and I threw away the stupid full length guide rod which is it's proper designation by the way...at least as far as I'm concerned

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para38super
04-23-2011, 8:28 PM
If your original intent is to educate the forum members, do it right. The .38 Super is not a 1911 Model. It's a Government Model. Yes it's evidently beyond you.

Beside, who on this forum cares that the .38 Super was born in 1929, except you?

This guy is funny.:D

The Colt 38 super is a 1911, the Colt 10mm is a 1911. 1911 is the model of the gun, there is many different calibers. There is also a Colt 38 super in commander model. Colt created the 1911 model, others have modified the design. Kimber, Les Baer, Wilson Combat etc... All are 1911 model guns.
Oh and by the way there was a Colt super .38 non commercial model.
Read this and stop being a smart a**...:43:
http://www.vincelewis.net/38super.html
http://www.coltsmfg.com/Catalog/ColtPistols/Colt1991Series.aspx

According to your theory Kimbers, Les Baers are not 1911s. They are what?


Don't spread FUD that Colt 38 Super are not 1911s, of course they are 1911s... There 1911s because Colt called them 1911s...:eek:

Mickey D
04-23-2011, 9:07 PM
Call it what you want.
I refer to the 1911 and A1 as the military model of 1911, which was made by 5 different companies.
Colts commercials are Government Models.
There are other companies that refer to the design as 1911, because they are copies.


http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=34750

Don't call me a smart @ss.

para38super
04-23-2011, 9:14 PM
Call it what you want. There are other companies that refer to the design as 1911, because they are copies.

I refer to the 1911 and A1 as the military model of 1911. Colts commercials are Government Models.

http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=34750

Don't call me a smart @ss.

Okay, I take back calling you a smart a**.
Yes they are 1911 copies but still 1911s.
So Colt commanders are what?

Mickey D
04-23-2011, 9:18 PM
Okay, I take back calling you a smart a**.
Yes they are 1911 copies but still 1911s.
So Colt commanders are what?

Commanders.

Please read an educate yourself.

http://www.coltforum.com/forums/colt-semiauto-pistols/36320-colt-1911-38-super.html

fennecfrank
04-23-2011, 9:44 PM
Commanders.

Please read an educate yourself.

http://www.coltforum.com/forums/colt-semiauto-pistols/36320-colt-1911-38-super.html

Call it what you want.
I refer to the 1911 and A1 as the military model of 1911, which was made by 5 different companies.
Colts commercials are Government Models.
There are other companies that refer to the design as 1911, because they are copies.


http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=34750

Don't call me a smart @ss.

If your original intent is to educate the forum members, do it right. The .38 Super is not a 1911 Model. It's a Government Model. Yes it's evidently beyond you.

Beside, who on this forum cares that the .38 Super was born in 1929, except you?

I beg to differ, the commercial Colt .45 and .38 Super are Government Models.
The M1911 is a miltary designation of the original design platform JM Browniing. Everyone has generalized the design to 1911, like Kleenex is to facial tissues.

Can you write to these authors? According to your logic, they should change the title of their books.

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para38super
04-23-2011, 9:53 PM
Thank you!

fennecfrank
04-23-2011, 10:00 PM
Thank you!

no problem brother.
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HELLO!! This is the year 2011. Someone on this forum has to realize that "1911" has become a general term for a long time!!!

Colt-45
04-23-2011, 10:09 PM
Beside, who on this forum cares that the .38 Super was born in 1929, except you?

It's an inside joke that you obviously don't understand.

If your original intent is to educate the forum members, do it right.

Did the Colt 38 Super NOT come out in 1929? If you didn't notice, that is what this thread is about. Is this a lie?


:threadjacked::threadjacked:
You're shifting the thread in another direction.
Don't turn this thread into a pissing match, you're not going to win.

Everyone has generalized the design to 1911, like Kleenex is to facial tissues.

You answered yourself in your first argument. Why continue?

Oh, and I forgot to add, the Colt .38 Super is a 1911 MODEL, that doesn't mean the Colt .38 Super was born in 1911:rolleyes:. :banghead:

The Colt .45 was the one born in 1911 :D


If you're stuck on this^^ the main point of that was that the .38 Super was not born in the year 1911, the Colt .45 was.

If it makes you feel better I'll fix it to 1911 TYPE MODELS, are these not 1911 TYPES?:rolleyes:If not then Colt .38 Supers must be CZ's or Beretta 92's then.

Mickey D
04-23-2011, 10:27 PM
You are correct, the .38 Super was born in 1929.

Colt-45
04-23-2011, 10:32 PM
I understand your specifics, but if we speak about each 1911, AK and AR by their exact designation no one will know WTF we're talking about. There needs to be a common ground. The shape of a Colt .45 pistol is more similar, almost identical to a Colt .38 super, these look more similar than say a Colt .45 pistol compared to a Browning Hi-Power or Beretta 92fs.

Imagine how hard it would be to find a AR, AK or 1911 magazine if we had to call each version by their specific designation.

Mickey D
04-23-2011, 10:53 PM
I also understand where you are coming from. I too was just trying educate.
We can maturely agree to disagree without name calling and derogatory remarks.

Colt-45
04-23-2011, 11:11 PM
I also understand where you are coming from. I too was just trying educate.
We can maturely agree to disagree without name calling and derogatory remarks.

:iagree: Now that, I can agree with.

and yea I completely understand what you're saying.

El Gato
04-24-2011, 9:38 AM
:rant:
:mad:T

I've come across too many douche bags that think it first came out in 1911. They swear by it:rolleyes:


as to derogatory statements about people...personally... being heterosexual...calling me something that inserts into an always attractive female genitalia... is always something of a compliment...and it ain't the size what matters right... as long as it all fits correctly.... .38 super, 9mm, 10mm, 45acp is what I'm talkin' about...