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andrewj
04-20-2011, 7:32 PM
I am by no means a revolver guy so forgive me if I mess up any names or terms for revolver parts.

My 35+ year old Taurus Model 96 22lr has seen better days. It has looked like this as long as I have had it (I inherited it from my grandfather). Note those two sections of "serrations" circling along the edge of the cylinder. From what I can tell, it looks like the firing pin is striking the face of the cylinder?? This would be the equivalent of a revolver firing out of battery??

What is causing this? What are the problem areas? Seems the ratchet area on the extractor is messed up as well.

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Thoughts?

Mickey D
04-20-2011, 7:36 PM
You are correct in that the hammer is falling before lock up. The ratchet star looks very worn. I'm certain the hand is equally worn as well. Time to retire this older revolver.

tzahoy
04-20-2011, 8:11 PM
Buy a new hand, bolt, and ejector star and practice gunsmithing. Not worth paying a pro, but you might learn something and actually fix it.

andrewj
04-20-2011, 8:54 PM
Time to retire this older revolver.

I would normally agree but this revolver has sentimental value since it was my grandpa's. If it weren't, I'd just toss it in the scrap metal bin.

I would like to get it operating reliabley again. As it is now, the cylinder seems like it drags or trips up every now and then.

Buy a new hand, bolt, and ejector star and practice gunsmithing. Not worth paying a pro, but you might learn something and actually fix it.

I certainly wouldn't mind doing this at all, it would be a fun project. Its just a little overwhelming considering I don't know anything about revolvers and their parts. Where could I even find replacement or suitable parts for this gun anyway?

gorenut
04-20-2011, 9:03 PM
Test Taurus customer service?

bigkahuna04
04-20-2011, 9:20 PM
Test Taurus customer service?

I'd second that... don't they have a lifetime warranty?

gorenut
04-20-2011, 9:26 PM
I'd second that... don't they have a lifetime warranty?

I know they do on their current guns.. but I dunno if theres a cut-off point like S&W does for their classic line.

tonelar
04-20-2011, 9:30 PM
Taurus Lifetime Warranty time

BigDogatPlay
04-20-2011, 10:03 PM
+1 to give Taurus a try and see what they'll do. Second choice is to order up parts from Numrich and see what you could do.

Otherwise... wall hanger.

swifty
04-20-2011, 10:12 PM
A lot of times this is the result of someone watching Saturday morning westerns and fanning the action.

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Clean up the burrs. Shoot the gun in SA and DA. Check for proper firing pin strikes. If everything looks normal you should be fine.

Damiiaaannn
04-20-2011, 10:18 PM
Buy Smith and Wesson.

andrewj
04-22-2011, 3:38 PM
I'll give Taurus a try and see what they can do. Anyone know if they have an email address I can contact them at? I searched briefly but turned up nothing.

WARDOG
04-22-2011, 6:02 PM
Your family heirloom is definitely unsafe, and if were not in a .22 lr cartridge it would have spontaneously disassembled itself by now. The pawl, cylinder latch or ratchet are likely worn out. This is a typical state on revolvers chambered for .22 lr. Because of the low pressures, inferior metals are used in their manufacturing. Inferior metals wear much quicker than the quality metals used in higher pressure revolvers. The pictures you show are typical also of the old Harrington & Richardson revolvers. The cylinder latches wear quickly, which doesn't allow the chamber to line up perfectly with the forcing cone of the barrel. That means the bullet is likely shearing itself at the entrance of the barrel. If it were a higher pressure cartridge, it would result in traumatic consequences.
Revolver cylinder timing is critical. Even if you got the replacement parts, you really should have a qualified gunsmith replace the parts.
I know how you feel. I have a few of "Grandpa's old guns" that I have had to retire from the range because they are too wore out, or can't take the pressures of modern ammunition. They still ride in my safe and are displayed on occasion, but they don't get to come out and play at the range.

tonelar
04-22-2011, 6:07 PM
305-624-1115

Lifetime Repair Policy (http://www.taurususa.com/repair-policy.cfm)

Mickey D
04-22-2011, 11:14 PM
I would normally agree but this revolver has sentimental value since it was my grandpa's. If it weren't, I'd just toss it in the scrap metal bin.



I understand your sentimental attachemnt to this little gun. By all means I wasn't suggesting to toss it in the scrap pile, but retire as a wall hanger/display piece.

Andy Taylor
04-22-2011, 11:39 PM
Contact Taurus. They will fix it.

andrewj
04-25-2011, 1:17 PM
Contacted Taurus and they said there is nothing they can do. After running it's serial # through their database, I was told that it's highly unlikely that they would have the parts or schematics for a gun this old.

I don't imagine modern Taurus USA is the same entity that is was back in the mid 70's, nor do I think their warranty policy existed then.

Joe
04-25-2011, 1:18 PM
Contacted Taurus and they said there is nothing they can do. After running it's serial # through their database, I was told that it's highly unlikely that they would have the parts or schematics for a gun this old.

I don't imagine modern Taurus USA is the same entity that is was back in the mid 70's, nor do I think their warranty policy existed then.

What kind of crappy lifetime warranty is that? lol

G60
04-25-2011, 1:40 PM
What kind of crappy lifetime warranty is that? lol

S&W doesn't honor their current lifetime warranty on guns made before 1986 lol.
Just because a manufacturer currently offers a type of warranty does not mean they always have lol.
Why should a manufacturer extend a warranty retroactively lol?
Is that so difficult to understand lol?

Joe
04-25-2011, 3:59 PM
S&W doesn't honor their current lifetime warranty on guns made before 1986 lol.
Just because a manufacturer currently offers a type of warranty does not mean they always have lol.
Why should a manufacturer extend a warranty retroactively lol?
Is that so difficult to understand lol?

Sorry. Didn't mean to hit a nerve. It was a joke.

Bongos
04-25-2011, 4:06 PM
yea that's bad

G-forceJunkie
04-25-2011, 7:03 PM
See if you can find parts from the old gun parts places, you should be able to get it functional pretty easyly. The upset material from the hammer strikes on the rear of the cylinder can be machined down. You'll still see them, but they wont effect function. The counter bores for the cartridge rim can also be cleaned up without much issue. Only tricky-ish part is the timing if the ejector star and or hand are beat beyond use and replacements are not available.

Andy Taylor
04-25-2011, 7:20 PM
Sorry to hear that. I had thought Taurus aways had the lifetime warranty, at least since they have been in the States.