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LazyDog
04-20-2011, 5:40 PM
For those of you that have 'em, what's your opinion of them? Did you notice better accuracy or is it not worth the hassle? I'm been shopping online for ported barrels for my Sig226 and I just wanted to get an idea if it's worth the extra cost.

rareair
04-20-2011, 9:10 PM
I too have a P226. I've been contemplating installing a ported barrel @ a cost of about $200 I'm hoping it'll remove or atleast lessen muzzle rise during quick multiple shots

dragon7
04-20-2011, 9:52 PM
Ported barrels are not IMO suited for defensive weapons. The upward blast is bad for the shooter if the gun is held close and the flash on night shoots is very distracting. Technically, I found ports do not significantly help shot recovery unless they are on guns that have cartridges that produce a lot of gas like a magnum round or a hot auto round like the .38 Super. The guns I do have ported aren't any better or worse for accuracy.

InGrAM
04-21-2011, 12:15 AM
^ +1 to what he said. Not good for HD, but at the range its great.

I have a custom 1911 .45 with a comped barrel. Perfect range gun. Much less recoil than a non comped .45.

Voo
04-21-2011, 5:00 AM
I ran a ported barrel in my G35.. My brother is a machinist and cut a few ports into a Lonewolf conversion barrel I had purchased.. I went from shooting .40 cal to 9mm, and then for *****s and giggles, I added a few ports to make it even softer..

It does lessen muzzle rise but IMO, not by much.. Dragon7 pretty much nailed it as standard ammo -9mm, 40, 45 really doesn't provide much "gas" to work with..

.38 super and/or 9Major is what I see 9 times out of 10 on a compensated/ported handguns..

Will you notice it? Probably.. But I will say this, everyone that shot it loved it.. It was definitely a very, very fun range gun..

MAD SVT
04-21-2011, 6:05 AM
i have a lone wolf extended 2 port on my G17 and its noticeably softer than my G34. pretty fun to shoot also.

its not my HD gun though.. not because of the ports, i insist on having a SA/DA with thumb safety for HD so the glocks stay in the safe.

LazyDog
04-21-2011, 7:15 AM
Great input everyone....thanks for the insight.

I shot a fellow Calgunners S&W 627 V-Comp several weeks ago and I noticed a significant difference in muzzle control vs. my Ruger Service Six. Ever since shooting this gun I have been obsessively reading about ported barrels. My 226 is my "under the bed" gun for now so a ported barrel does not make sense for HD.

scootle
04-21-2011, 12:49 PM
I'm thinking of getting one of the ported/extended barrels to convert my Glock 23 EXO from .40 to 9mm. I figure why not for a range toy...

Thanks for the insights!

shooting4life
04-21-2011, 2:51 PM
I you want less muzzle climb then hold on the the gun tighter. I have shoot a 500 s&w without ports and have a 445 supermag without ports and can fire each accurately.

rdmax
04-21-2011, 2:56 PM
In my limited experience in playing around with ported guns, you need hot, high velocity ammo to make the porting work right. If there is not enough velocity, it will not benefit reduced muzzle rise versus gases flying in front of your sigt vision. Porting creates more muzzle blast/noise and extreme loss of velocity in a pistol. However, it is fun to shoot. I would not do it for you Sig 226 unless it was just a quick replacement barrel with ports on it and no modification to your upper receiver.

WARDOG
04-21-2011, 4:05 PM
... Technically, I found ports do not significantly help shot recovery unless they are on guns that have cartridges that produce a lot of gas like a magnum round or a hot auto round like the .38 Super. ....

Yeah! What he said!
I would add that different loadings of the same cartridge may benefit from a comp.
For instance a .45 ACP w/ 230 grain moving at 850 fps is pretty much burning most of the powder, before the bullet leaves the barrel. There isn't a lot of excessive gas that would allow a comp to be effective.
Now shooting a .45 ACP w/ 180 grain at 1200 fps is really trying to move that bullet quickly with more powder and higher pressure. SO much so, that there is still some unburned powder after the bullet leaves the muzzle. The excess expanding gas can then be ported through the comp allowing the pressure of the gasses to move the muzzle down.
.38 special: No real benefit / .357 would show a benefit.
.45 LC: No real benefit / .454 Casull would show a benefit.
9mm: No real benefit / .357 Sig would show a benefit.
I shoot a custom BFR in .500 JRH, 440 grain LFNGC @1050 fps 7.5" bbl that has a nice "push" to it. I have shot these comp'ed in another revolver with no real benefit. I have another load of 425 grn. @ 1440 fps which is a real handful. I have shot this in another revolver that definitely showed a benefit being comp'ed.
The .500 S&W, .460 S&W is just too much for all practical applications except for having a lot of fun. They have compensators for a reason. Lighter bullet at much higher pressures. You don't see any rifles chambered for these calibers do ya?

32blownhemi
04-21-2011, 4:07 PM
I have a Glock 21c {45 cal. ported or compensated as they say} & I love it. Only comparison I can make is I fired my ported 45 Glock & a non-ported 45 Springfield XD {same length barrels} at the same time & the XD had noticeably more muzzle rise.....

Oceanbob
04-21-2011, 4:23 PM
I ran a ported barrel in my G35.. My brother is a machinist and cut a few ports into a Lonewolf conversion barrel I had purchased.. I went from shooting .40 cal to 9mm, and then for *****s and giggles, I added a few ports to make it even softer..

It does lessen muzzle rise but IMO, not by much.. Dragon7 pretty much nailed it as standard ammo -9mm, 40, 45 really doesn't provide much "gas" to work with..

.38 super and/or 9Major is what I see 9 times out of 10 on a compensated/ported handguns..

Will you notice it? Probably.. But I will say this, everyone that shot it loved it.. It was definitely a very, very fun range gun..



It's a ported lonewolf 9MM conversion barrel....

Weak ammo refuses to reliably cycle the long slide on the G35...not always but enough to annoy me. Hahah.

Hotter ammo works great. No problems and because it's HOT the gases do exit the top of the barrel and cut down on muzzle climb...so I am happy with it. It's a RANGE TOY for gun games and plinking. Never for the Zombie Invasion.

http://i54.tinypic.com/5aqb8p.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/2zgu6gz.jpg

I also run a ported 10MM barrel on one of my GLOCK 29s. It seems to help with hot ammo...but I really don't know for sure. Mainly because when I shoot the hot stuff I REALLY HANG ON TIGHT..!!!! lol. But for now I keep it for the cool :cool: Factor

http://i55.tinypic.com/2r7aw5d.jpg

LazyDog
04-22-2011, 8:56 AM
As a newer member to CalGuns, I'm amazed at the wealth of information that you all have readily available to people like me. All of your input is very much appreciated. Gun Shop employees aren't quite as helpful as CalGuns.

Mr. Beretta
04-22-2011, 9:50 AM
Ported barrels are not IMO suited for defensive weapons. The upward blast is bad for the shooter if the gun is held close and the flash on night shoots is very distracting. Technically, I found ports do not significantly help shot recovery unless they are on guns that have cartridges that produce a lot of gas like a magnum round or a hot auto round like the .38 Super. The guns I do have ported aren't any better or worse for accuracy.

+100............

MAD SVT
04-22-2011, 10:52 PM
It's a ported lonewolf 9MM conversion barrel....

Weak ammo refuses to reliably cycle the long slide on the G35...not always but enough to annoy me. Hahah.

Hotter ammo works great. No problems and because it's HOT the gases do exit the top of the barrel and cut down on muzzle climb...so I am happy with it. It's a RANGE TOY for gun games and plinking. Never for the Zombie Invasion.

http://i54.tinypic.com/5aqb8p.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/2zgu6gz.jpg

I also run a ported 10MM barrel on one of my GLOCK 29s. It seems to help with hot ammo...but I really don't know for sure. Mainly because when I shoot the hot stuff I REALLY HANG ON TIGHT..!!!! lol. But for now I keep it for the cool :cool: Factor

http://i55.tinypic.com/2r7aw5d.jpg

you still running the stock guide rod spring? with 6 ports on that badboy im guessing you should be at 11-12lbs on the spring.. that'll help with the reliabliitly

Voo
04-23-2011, 1:45 AM
It's a ported lonewolf 9MM conversion barrel....

Weak ammo refuses to reliably cycle the long slide on the G35...not always but enough to annoy me. Hahah.

Hotter ammo works great. No problems and because it's HOT the gases do exit the top of the barrel and cut down on muzzle climb...so I am happy with it. It's a RANGE TOY for gun games and plinking. Never for the Zombie Invasion.

haha I know what you mean about the weaker ammo! I'd have to run factory ammo (or adjust my dillon to throw more powder) to get it to run with any sort of reliability..

I have to know though, how do you keep it so clean?!?! I had serious carbon burns and residue everywhere around the ports, not to mention my front sight was literally caked with carbon and other gunk after each trip to the range..

rareair
04-23-2011, 7:53 AM
http://i54.tinypic.com/5aqb8p.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/2zgu6gz.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/2r7aw5d.jpg

:cool2: Very nice. Now I want one if not just for the visual factor

Munk
04-23-2011, 8:44 AM
Ported barrels are not IMO suited for defensive weapons. The upward blast is bad for the shooter if the gun is held close and the flash on night shoots is very distracting. Technically, I found ports do not significantly help shot recovery unless they are on guns that have cartridges that produce a lot of gas like a magnum round or a hot auto round like the .38 Super. The guns I do have ported aren't any better or worse for accuracy.

This is why we need to be allowed to have threaded barrels.

I'd love to be able to run it with just cap on there for carry usage, and with the ports or compensator for competition or range usage.

MarioS
04-23-2011, 7:15 PM
Have one for my Glock. Doesn't affect accuracy, reduces muzzle climb slightly, but mostly it's just fun.

JayBeeJay
04-23-2011, 8:16 PM
I let a friend shoot my G23C (new shooter) and after a magazine he said "How come your G23C is louder than my G21, and it spits a V flame". His noob comment made me laugh.

HighLander51
04-24-2011, 12:07 PM
There is a big difference between porting and compensating. Simple ports will run Wally world ammo, as in my G24C. There is, at best, a very slight reduction in muzzle rise and no difference at all in accuracy. If fact, muzzle velocity is reduced for each port. But a compensated gun, that is a different story. Even in 9mm minor (125,000 power floor), this hybrid takes 5.3 grains of TiteGroup for a Montana Gold 115JHP at 1.135” OAL to make it run (4.8 grs is max) along with a 13lb recoil spring. You gotta run very hot to make comps work right and when that happens the slide recoils straight back.

Voo, the reason this comp is so clean? I clean it ultrasonically with Hoppes # 9 and then apply a high temperature release agent to the ports and bake it out in the oven. Make’s it really hard for gun exhaust to bond to it.

OP, I would spend the money on a better trigger and aftermarket sights before getting another barrel.

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JayBeeJay
04-24-2011, 3:17 PM
Question for you Lone Wolf barrel owners. If I want an extended 2 port barrell w/ the factory "C" ports as well, do I need to send my G23C slide in?