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Sacramento Black Rifle
04-20-2011, 2:01 PM
The FBI Uniform Crime Reporting site provides this look at violent crimes based on the 10 most populated cities in California.

http://www.kcra.com/slideshow/news/27603662/detail.html

Don29palms
04-20-2011, 2:15 PM
After looking at that list I can see why.

Wernher von Browning
04-20-2011, 2:24 PM
After looking at that list I can see why.

Surprised to see San Diego on there.

None of the others are a surprise.

Southwest Chuck
04-20-2011, 2:25 PM
The FBI Uniform Crime Reporting site provides this look at violent crimes based on the 10 most populated cities in California.

http://www.kcra.com/slideshow/news/27603662/detail.html

Thanks for posting that. I like the KCRA 3 Crime Tracker Guide link on that page. If this were available everywhere, and people could see and track crime in their own neighborhoods, I think people would reconsider their views on the RTKBA.
KCRA 3 Crime Tracker Guide (http://www.kcra.com/news/10204295/detail.html)

Ibgreezy
04-20-2011, 2:26 PM
I can't see the list from my phone, it keeps redirecting me

Shady
04-20-2011, 2:28 PM
the UCR is a joke

The Shadow
04-20-2011, 2:31 PM
I was surprised that Anaheim made it into the top 10. I figured San Bernardino would beat them out.

Call_me_Tom
04-20-2011, 2:36 PM
It redirects me also.

groovielou
04-20-2011, 2:37 PM
Anaheim? City of the happiest place on earth?

axel4488
04-20-2011, 2:39 PM
same here. San Berdoo is one of the worst places i have ever been. Anaheim is kinda crappy, but San Diego? thats odd

IrishPirate
04-20-2011, 2:45 PM
KCRA 3 Crime Tracker Guide (http://www.kcra.com/news/10204295/detail.html)

that's awesome.....i'm going to bookmark that and keep an eye on any trends in the area. Every news station should have this up and running accross the country!


I'm also not shocked at any of the results. I think any of the top 5 could rotate with eachother on a daily basis.....pretty sad.

stockranger
04-20-2011, 2:47 PM
The back streets outside the downtown area of san diego are like little tijuana. I did a job down there once it was a horrible neighborhood.

The Shadow
04-20-2011, 2:53 PM
Thanks for posting that. I like the KCRA 3 Crime Tracker Guide link on that page. If this were available everywhere, and people could see and track crime in their own neighborhoods, I think people would reconsider their views on the RTKBA.
KCRA 3 Crime Tracker Guide (http://www.kcra.com/news/10204295/detail.html)

Check out this website.

http://www.spotcrime.com/ca

Don29palms
04-20-2011, 2:56 PM
1) Oakland
2) Sacramento
3) San Francisco
4) Long Beach
5) Fresno
6) Los Angeles
7) Santa Ana
8) San Diego
9) San Jose
10) Anaheim

Ibgreezy
04-20-2011, 3:02 PM
Thanks Don29

Don29palms
04-20-2011, 3:10 PM
You're welcome

Coded-Dude
04-20-2011, 3:21 PM
I wonder where Sacramento will be in a year or two now that Sac county is shall issue......

Wernher von Browning
04-20-2011, 3:22 PM
Compton must not count. Too small? Part of LA?

Mikeb
04-20-2011, 3:45 PM
We're number one...We're number one...We're number one...We're number one...

wooo hooo
at least Oakland is good at something...
Mike

model63
04-20-2011, 3:49 PM
1) Oakland
2) Sacramento
3) San Francisco
4) Long Beach
5) Fresno
6) Los Angeles
7) Santa Ana
8) San Diego
9) San Jose
10) Anaheim

Outside of Bakersfield not being on here (maybe the population has shifted due to the 2010 census, this isn't a per capita list, rather it took the top 10 cities in CA by population and ranked them accordingly. SD, SJ and Disneyland would still be pretty safe, while Oakland and the State capital are full of criminals ;). I am not sure this list really tells us much beyond ranking your ten ugliest toes...

Paladin
04-20-2011, 3:54 PM
The FBI Uniform Crime Reporting site provides this look at violent crimes based on the 10 most populated cities in California.

http://www.kcra.com/slideshow/news/27603662/detail.html

The source of the confusion is the title ("Top 10 Most Violent Calif. Cities"), and the intro sentence (both of which are merely copied from the linked article), describe two different lists. In fact, the list is the 10 most populated CA cities ranked acc to their violent crime rates. Thus, cities which are one of the top 10 in pop., but have low crime rates (Anaheim), are on the list even though they're not one of the 10 most violent cities in CA (the title of this thread and the article).

Reporters/editors make mistakes, or they misrepresented the article so that it had a "sexier" title.

N6ATF
04-20-2011, 4:09 PM
Surprised to see San Diego on there.

I'm not.

We law-abiders are denied our right to self defense by our sheriff, and have sued over it (http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Peruta_v._County_of_San_Diego). You have to be a judge, celebrity, rich, or a friend, family member or campaign contributor to receive the privilege. This is additionally no surprise given he gave the green light to the summary execution of an unarmed woman holding a baby at Ruby Ridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge#The_siege_and_controversy). Criminals reign.

the UCR is a joke

Considering it shows correlation with victim disarmament increasing crime, that's why the Brady Campaign scatter like roaches from light when it's brought up.

DisgruntledReaper
04-20-2011, 4:18 PM
1) Oakland
2) Sacramento
3) San Francisco
4) Long Beach
5) Fresno
6) Los Angeles
7) Santa Ana
8) San Diego
9) San Jose
10) Anaheim

Hmmm.....I wonder why all the Libtard,pc,open arms,pro illegal,pro whatever cities are listed..:rolleyes: Also notice that ,like WASH the D. (ouchebags) C.(lean) -our FedGov Capitol is also at/near the top of violent cities.... :rolleyes: I think there is a pattern here forming....any more and I face a 'banning':TFH::mad::rolleyes::43:

loose_electron
04-20-2011, 4:19 PM
The back streets outside the downtown area of san diego are like little tijuana. I did a job down there once it was a horrible neighborhood.

Every city has its slimy parts, even "America's Finest City"

Slummy end of SD is National City and Chula Vista.

I have no idea how they got to that list however, Crimes per capita? murders per city? There wren't much in the way of details/

Crom
04-20-2011, 4:21 PM
Surprised to see San Diego on there...

I'm not.

I'm not surprised either. Quite frankly I surprised it's not higher on the list. I pay very close attention to what's going on and we have at least one murder a day here in San Diego. But I wonder if the statistic is confined to city boundaries, because there is plenty of violence is happening in east San Diego County like El Cajon.

BayAreaShooter
04-20-2011, 4:47 PM
I'm surprised Vallejo or Richmond aren't on the list.

Swiss
04-20-2011, 5:01 PM
Thanks for the sharp eye. San Jose is definitely not violent.

The source of the confusion is the title ("Top 10 Most Violent Calif. Cities"), and the intro sentence (both of which are merely copied from the linked article), describe two different lists. In fact, the list is the 10 most populated CA cities ranked acc to their violent crime rates. Thus, cities which are one of the top 10 in pop., but have low crime rates (Anaheim), are on the list even though they're not one of the 10 most violent cities in CA (the title of this thread and the article).

Reporters/editors make mistakes, or they misrepresented the article so that it had a "sexier" title.

InGrAM
04-20-2011, 5:13 PM
jesus! Sacto is number 2? Wow, I never knew this city was so bad.

peepshowal
04-20-2011, 5:18 PM
I'm surprised Vallejo or Richmond aren't on the list.
The list in this thread ranks California's Most Populated cities in order of their violent crime rates. They are not necessarily in the top 10 most violent cities in CA.

It looks like that list is here : http://www.ksbw.com/slideshow/news/25880654/detail.html

InGrAM
04-20-2011, 5:20 PM
The list in this thread ranks California Most Populated cities in order of their violent crime rates. They are not necessarily in the top10 most violent cities in CA.

It looks like that list is here : http://www.ksbw.com/slideshow/news/25880654/detail.html

Ok. this list makes a lot more sense to me.

Yep Stockton is pretty damn bad. and we all know Oakland is a *****h0le and needs to fall off into the ocean along with SF :)

Cali-Shooter
04-20-2011, 5:23 PM
The list in this thread ranks California's Most Populated cities in order of their violent crime rates. They are not necessarily in the top 10 most violent cities in CA.

It looks like that list is here : http://www.ksbw.com/slideshow/news/25880654/detail.html

No surprise that L.A. is up there :)

zod
04-20-2011, 6:35 PM
The list in this thread ranks California's Most Populated cities in order of their violent crime rates. They are not necessarily in the top 10 most violent cities in CA.

It looks like that list is here : http://www.ksbw.com/slideshow/news/25880654/detail.html

Oakland, Richmond, Compton & Vallejo in the top 4. That makes sense to me. I never thought Oakland or Richmond would beat out Compton. 3 out 4 cities in the Bay Area!

Wernher von Browning
04-20-2011, 8:40 PM
The list in this thread ranks California's Most Populated cities in order of their violent crime rates. They are not necessarily in the top 10 most violent cities in CA.

It looks like that list is here : http://www.ksbw.com/slideshow/news/25880654/detail.html

Now that's more like it.

Compton made that list, as I knew it should; so did San Bernardino, as somebody else said it should. San Diego is not on there. Nor Anaheim.

Top of the pigpile is Oakland. Funny, I seem to recall from another thread in the past few days that Oakland prohibits mail-order ammunition. We can see how effective that is...

rp55
04-20-2011, 8:43 PM
What a bogus list. Where's Salinas? In any Cal city per capita violent crime ranking it usually comes in the top 3.

Wernher von Browning
04-20-2011, 9:11 PM
What a bogus list. Where's Salinas? In any Cal city per capita violent crime ranking it usually comes in the top 3.

It's in the more recent posting. As you knew it should be... You'll be happy to learn that it came in 8th place. ("Do we get a prize?")

http://www.ksbw.com/slideshow/news/25880654/detail.html

And here's the National Remind-Me-Never-To-Move-To-That-Pesthole List.
http://www.ksbw.com/download/2010/1122/25878471.pdf

CCWFacts
04-20-2011, 9:22 PM
1) Oakland

I'm shocked!

http://uhurunews.com/imagecache/content/news/stories/2009-03/uhuru-movement-statement-on-lovelle-mixon/LovelleMixonVigil_jpg-CONVERT-resize=400.jpg
March for Lovelle Mixon (http://uhurunews.com/story?resource_name=uhuru-movement-statement-on-lovelle-mixon), organized by Uhuru House

Wernher von Browning
04-20-2011, 9:52 PM
And a fine specimen he was, too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovelle_Mixon#The_perpetrator

kcbrown
04-20-2011, 10:17 PM
The list in this thread ranks California's Most Populated cities in order of their violent crime rates. They are not necessarily in the top 10 most violent cities in CA.

It looks like that list is here : http://www.ksbw.com/slideshow/news/25880654/detail.html


Which is:

10) South Gate
9) Sacramento
8) Salinas
7) Inglewood
6) Stockton
5) San Bernardino
4) Vallejo
3) Compton
2) Richmond
1) Oakland

Cali-Shooter
04-20-2011, 10:38 PM
And a fine specimen he was, too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovelle_Mixon#The_perpetrator

Oakland's finest, yo. As much as I dislike how LEO's are essentially tools of a Draconian system, Mixon was a major turdball that should have been 'capped' without the lives that were lost in the line of fire on the LEO side.

ubet
04-21-2011, 7:22 AM
I'm shocked!

http://uhurunews.com/imagecache/content/news/stories/2009-03/uhuru-movement-statement-on-lovelle-mixon/LovelleMixonVigil_jpg-CONVERT-resize=400.jpg
March for Lovelle Mixon (http://uhurunews.com/story?resource_name=uhuru-movement-statement-on-lovelle-mixon), organized by Uhuru House

Instead of sending the SWAT in, they should have just called in an airstrike and napalmed the ****ing house. What a scumbag, then they thought they should have a walk for him? Sounds like a good "walk" to napalm also!

Birds of a feather flock together

bombadillo
04-21-2011, 7:38 AM
Stockton
modesto
manteca
San Jose
Pittsburg


Come on, I would rather go to the whole bottom half of the list than any of these places.

45DAVID1
04-21-2011, 7:42 AM
10) South Gate
9) Sacramento
8) Salinas
7) Inglewood
6) Stockton
5) San Bernardino
4) Vallejo
3) Compton
2) Richmond
1) Oakland

Speaking of #5 on the list.... there were 5 homicides last weekend.

Untamed1972
04-21-2011, 7:54 AM
1) Oakland
2) Sacramento
3) San Francisco
4) Long Beach
5) Fresno
6) Los Angeles
7) Santa Ana
8) San Diego
9) San Jose
10) Anaheim

And think....with the exception of Sacramento now.....EVERY SINGLE ONE of the cities on that list are in counties that are the hardest to get a CCW in. HMMMMmmmmm.

For those suprised about San Diego being on the list.....San Diego has been plagued with gang crime, from gangs of all types (bloods/crips, mexican/hispanic, HA's/skinheads) for 30+yrs now. At one time Lakeside, a small town in SD county was considered the meth capitol of the country. Throw in on top of that border issues and what not, it can be a rough place if you dont know what areas to avoid. Some areas are worse than others obviously, but ultimately crime eventually spreads out of the hood and follows the money when there is nothing left in the 'hood to steal.

ELBong
04-21-2011, 8:03 AM
Here's the FBI Uniform Crime Reports website: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr

You can download excel spreadsheets and do your own analysis. An interesting exercize is to calculate the percent change in violent crime rate per capita year to year by city.

glbtrottr
04-21-2011, 8:07 AM
I'm completely not surprised with all of the Sheriffs involved and the position they take on concealed firearms. Oakland? Give me a break. I expect Sacramento will drop in the next 5 years. San Diego? With a scumbag FBI agent who fouled up and caused the death of Mrs Weaver? Sure. LA with Baca...Anaheim I'm disappointed in, and Santa Ana is expected.

JJE
04-21-2011, 8:11 AM
1) Oakland
2) Sacramento
3) San Francisco
4) Long Beach
5) Fresno
6) Los Angeles
7) Santa Ana
8) San Diego
9) San Jose
10) Anaheim

Hmmm ... I've lived in three of these large, violent cities (Oakland, SF and LA), but only one on the list of most violent overall (Oakland).

BluNorthern
04-21-2011, 8:16 AM
jesus! Sacto is number 2? Wow, I never knew this city was so bad.
Sacramento is out of control.
This is just in today's paper..it is literally every day another one.
19 fatalities so far this year.
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/04/21/3568672/2-fatal-stabbings-push-sacramento.html

http://blogs.sacbee.com/crime/archives/2011/04/four-shot-in-so.html

South Sac and North around Natomas seem to be the worse. Going to school at SCC at night....I watch my back.

Wherryj
04-21-2011, 8:53 AM
I was surprised that Anaheim made it into the top 10. I figured San Bernardino would beat them out.

San Bernardino was first for violent crime when I did my residency there. I'm also surprised to see that it has fallen from the top ten, although I don't know why you are surprised that Anaheim is on the list. It isn't nicknamed "Anacrime" for just any reason.

CTallerico
04-21-2011, 9:03 AM
I'm not a religious man but I do hope that God reserved a special place in HELL for Lovelle Mixon...May he burn forever!

Untamed1972
04-21-2011, 9:24 AM
San Bernardino was first for violent crime when I did my residency there. I'm also surprised to see that it has fallen from the top ten, although I don't know why you are surprised that Anaheim is on the list. It isn't nicknamed "Anacrime" for just any reason.

once an area has been gutted and there is nothing left to steal or anyone with anything worth stealing the criminals move on to more fertile ground. 4 of those 10 are in LA or OC....all close to plenty of more affluent areas in which to ply their criminal trade in.

Wernher von Browning
04-21-2011, 9:51 AM
What a scumbag, then they thought they should have a walk for him? Sounds like a good "walk" to napalm also!

Consider the li'l darlin' to be a scumbag detector. From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_police_shooting#Aftermath

Approximately 60 people attended the March 25 Uhuru House rally in support of Mixon. The demonstrators marched down MacArthur Boulevard, some carrying signs proclaiming "genocide"...

On the morning of March 27, 2009, Oakland citizens filled the overpasses and streets near the Oracle Arena in a show of support for the Oakland Police Department and the slain officers. By the time the service started at 11:00 a.m. PDT, the arena was filled to its capacity of 19,000, including the entire 800 strong Oakland police force; an overflow of at least 2,000 persons spilled over into the adjacent Oakland Coliseum. Police officers from around the state and nation, as well as a contingent from Canada, attended the event.

So, I make that a vote of 21,000 to 60...

KALIDAWG8996
04-21-2011, 10:07 AM
I think that list is flawed except for a few of the cities....

Hasn't San Diego been consistently voted as one of America's safest largest cities?

Riverside < Anaheim and San Diego combined......

Victorville? Hesperia? Pomona? Bueller?..... Bueller?.....

jshoebot
04-21-2011, 11:06 AM
Read the first page of the thread guys. The original link is to a list of CA's 10 most populous cities. A list of the most violent cities was posted about 3/4ths of the way down the first page.

Slummy end of SD is National City and Chula Vista.

Not sure how you figured that.. Chula Vista and National City are their own cities; they're not in San Diego.

Bad parts of SD: City Heights, College area, North Park, Paradise Hills, Encanto, Skyline, Lincoln Park, San Ysidro, Linda Vista, Mira Mesa, Logan Heights, Downtown, Pacific Beach, Mission Beach, Ocean Beach, Clairemont (used to be nice, now not so much).

I'm sure there are more I'm forgetting, but there are a LOT of neighborhoods in San Diego that I avoid these days.

beertinted
04-21-2011, 12:02 PM
Thanks for posting that. I like the KCRA 3 Crime Tracker Guide link on that page. If this were available everywhere, and people could see and track crime in their own neighborhoods, I think people would reconsider their views on the RTKBA.
KCRA 3 Crime Tracker Guide (http://www.kcra.com/news/10204295/detail.html)

http://www.crimereports.com/
One of the better online crime trackers, at least for my city. Lots of info.

silaic7
04-21-2011, 12:21 PM
deng... san bdo did not make it on the list???????

Bigtime1
04-21-2011, 3:33 PM
I wonder where Sacramento will be in a year or two now that Sac county is shall issue......

Worth tracking, and publicizing.

tankerman
04-21-2011, 5:57 PM
But, but, but, but, Norcal can't have the top three..........doesn't everyone know it's better than Socal and has less people?

JohanD
04-21-2011, 7:41 PM
1) Oakland
2) Sacramento
3) San Francisco
4) Long Beach
5) Fresno
6) Los Angeles
7) Santa Ana
8) San Diego
9) San Jose
10) Anaheim

Thanks!

socal2310
04-21-2011, 8:28 PM
Which is:

10) South Gate
9) Sacramento
8) Salinas
7) Inglewood
6) Stockton
5) San Bernardino
4) Vallejo
3) Compton
2) Richmond
1) Oakland

One thing that's funny, is that I've been in several of these cities (though only Salinas within the last twelve years or so) and haven't felt particularly concerned about my safety. One thing that is rarely mentioned is that cities like this are most dangerous to their residents.

I would love to see someone do an analysis of stranger on stranger crime in these areas. I would bet money on the following breakdown of crime: the vast majority of crimes perpetrated by criminals upon other criminals (and unless associated with serious injuries or death, extremely under-reported); another large chunk composed of (presumed) innocent people closely associated with criminals but with no criminal record (including children who truly ARE innocent and don't have any choice in the matter); then local residents not closely associated with criminals but known to them; and finally complete strangers coming in last.

Of course, the last three categories are difficult to impossible to quantify...

Ryan

Shrubmaster
04-21-2011, 8:45 PM
Fresno made the top five! Woohoo! Funny, the wife said "let's go to the zoo", without thinking the xd went to the hip. When we got there, we found maybe 400 bulldog gang members all in red. Did someone say something about napalm.

RomanDad
04-21-2011, 9:37 PM
Hmmmm.... No Pomona? Fontana? Stockton? Article is a joke.

Echidin
04-21-2011, 10:23 PM
I'm sure there are some bad parts of Long Beach, just like any other city, but its definitely not top 10 most violent worthy, in my opinion. I would expect San Bernardino to be up there before Long Beach.

Echidin
04-21-2011, 10:40 PM
when i was younger anaheim and santa ana were great places that were very safe.
now its all hispanic and asian and crap

Your comments may not be taken well by fellow hispanic or asian calgunners, myself included.

tankerman
04-21-2011, 11:25 PM
when i was younger anaheim and santa ana were great places that were very safe.
now its all hispanic and asian and crap
Nikon shooter CA Patriot is back already.

socal2310
04-22-2011, 10:31 AM
Folks, again, the original post was merely a list of the ten most populous cities in California, ranked according to per capita crime rates, and given a sexy (and extremely misleading) title.

What they did was akin to taking the largest cities in the U.S. ranking them in order of crime rate and then calling it a list of the ten most dangerous cities in the country. The first thing you would notice is the absence of Memphis, TN; Saint Louis, MO; Flint, MI; Oakland, CA etc.

Ryan