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Fillagin
11-16-2006, 12:59 PM
Are spas 12 legal in califnora

Stanze
11-16-2006, 1:05 PM
Banned by make and model under Roberti-Roos.

Very tacti-cool, but heard there were issues with the safety causing accidental discharges. (ETA: http://spas12.com/spassafety.htm )

There's still several nice choices for semi-auto shotguns in CA. Benelli, Remington, FN to name a few.

50 Freak
11-16-2006, 4:12 PM
Get an Benelli M3.

A SPAS-12 is junk compared to an M3. The only thing the SPAS-12 has over the M3 is that it looks a little more intimidating.

bg
11-16-2006, 4:45 PM
I always thought the nice one was th LAW 12.

SemiAutoSam
11-16-2006, 4:48 PM
I tend to agree about the SPAS 12 however the SPAS 15 was a fun toy I owned whilst I lived in Nevada. but I sold that item bought a Benelli and had cash laft over to purchase a nice SIG P229.


Get an Benelli M3.

A SPAS-12 is junk compared to an M3. The only thing the SPAS-12 has over the M3 is that it looks a little more intimidating.

brando
11-16-2006, 5:21 PM
Agreed. The SPAS was cool about 20 years ago, but it's big, heavy and bulky. The only thing it has over a Benelli M3 is that it looks a bit more menacing. Incidentally, I watched a French paratrooper blow his toes off with one of these...messy ;)

modenar1
11-16-2006, 6:41 PM
forget the M3 get the M4, best shotgun made IMHO

brando
11-16-2006, 9:18 PM
Well, the point of reccommending the M3 is that it functions like the SPAS-12 (pump or auto).

Ratters
11-16-2006, 10:23 PM
My roommate in college had a spas. It was huge, heavy, and not very comfortable to shoot. You'd be much better off getting a Benelli. But just get an M1 or M4. You don't really need the conversion thing.

anotherone
11-16-2006, 10:53 PM
The only thing the SPAS-12 has over the M3 is that it looks a little more intimidating.

That sentence right there hit the nail dead on the head. That's why the SPAS-12 is banned and the M3 isn't. Although the M3 is way more effective, accurate, and reliable it doesn't look as evil.

xenophobe
11-17-2006, 1:33 AM
Despite being awkward to use the pump action and being a bit heavy (but not as heavy as it looks), the SPAS-12 wasn't really a bad shotgun. I used to take mine to the mechanical trap, and I used to hit singles and doubles most of the time without much effort.

As for the best combat shotgun? I'd rather have a Remington 11-87 Police with the Scattergun rear and XS front sight than any Benelli M3 or M1014. The Benelli M1 Tactical is the best tactical shotgun they've ever made, IMO.

Cypriss32
11-20-2006, 5:35 PM
Thats a no go!

rorschach
11-20-2006, 5:53 PM
forget the M3 get the M4, best shotgun made IMHO

That can be debated...

I would take an 870, slamfire Ithaca 37 or Winchester M12 over an M4 (or my M1S90) any day of the week.