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hamheart
04-11-2011, 9:38 PM
Hi i am new member here, I have a the 7.62x39 colt sporter and a ton of ammo for it, but i would like to have another gun that fires the round. So I am looking for suggestions on a reliable rifle, that is modern in the sense that it is synthetic rather than wood and that i already has rails. I would like to get as many suggestions as possible and sort through them my self.

thanks for the help

7.62 Charlie
04-11-2011, 9:44 PM
Saiga
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct708.aspx

762.DEFENSE
04-11-2011, 10:34 PM
AK-47...

llamatrnr
04-11-2011, 10:56 PM
Saiga rifle, Graco pistol

DanDaDude102
04-11-2011, 11:01 PM
Sks sporterized

SgtJT27
04-11-2011, 11:35 PM
RA XCR

RonPogi
04-12-2011, 6:12 AM
PWS MK114 7.62x39 or MK107 AR pistol 7.62x39

http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=217&idcategory=24

hamheart
04-12-2011, 6:13 AM
ok good options, thanks. links to info on the guns or a reliable place to buy them would be very helpful, like charlie and ronpogi. thanks

Rekrab
04-12-2011, 10:36 AM
Peach State Guns and Henderson Defense are advertisers on this site and both should have AKs/Saigas in stock.

You might also be able to find some on the CGN marketplace if you're patient. If you're really patient, buy a parts kit and build it yourself. You'll never go back to buying off the shelf again. :)

Buy an AK and never look back!

Sicarius
04-12-2011, 10:44 AM
I would suggest a Saiga and when you feel necessary, convert it.
Kevin

Blade
04-12-2011, 11:01 AM
+1 on the Saiga 7.62 x 39, they go for about $400 and are a great value. The Mini - 30 is another option but not as good a value nor do I think it is better than the Saiga. You always have the option of converting the Saiga to a AK47 style rifle as well.

hamheart
04-12-2011, 6:42 PM
i am interested in the legality of the saiga in ca, and what would be needed to make it legal if it isn't legal stock. Also, i am interested in ARs as well. however they seem to be largely out of my price range. Also i am still somewhat unclear regarding these rifles legality in general, and how to make them legal. thank you for helping a newbie learn.

bloodhawke83
04-12-2011, 7:42 PM
i am interested in the legality of the saiga in ca, and what would be needed to make it legal if it isn't legal stock. Also, i am interested in ARs as well. however they seem to be largely out of my price range. Also i am still somewhat unclear regarding these rifles legality in general, and how to make them legal. thank you for helping a newbie learn.

i have a unconverted saiga 7.62x39, 10 round mag. i think thats about it, unconverted saiga comes with a none-pistol grip stock.


below is the rifle i bought, mississippi auto arms was nice enough to install the bullet button for me before it was shipped over. with pistol grips, by law, you need to have the bullet button installed before shipment to CA or it is a federal crime. you have to chose between a detachable magazine or a pistol grip. one or the other

http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/saiga-762x39-rifle-with-20-barrel-iz133-p-432.html

16" barrel is the minimum length you need, i got the 20".

http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/saiga-762x39-rifle-with-163-barrel-izhmash-legion-p-1272.html

recoil is nothing, i didn't have any problems shooting Sunday.

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.html

SinisterBud
04-12-2011, 8:46 PM
I was going to buy one awhile back it did not have or need a bullet button to be legal because no evil features. That's weird they made u have one. Only needs one if u convert it to a AK-47

bloodhawke83
04-12-2011, 9:05 PM
I was going to buy one awhile back it did not have or need a bullet button to be legal because no evil features. That's weird they made u have one. Only needs one if u convert it to a AK-47

are you saying i can remove it? removing the mag has been a big pain Sunday, i wasted a lot of time removing it every time it's empty. i'm still unsure since there a lot of people around Sac that have little to no knowledge of firearm laws in CA.

NytWolf
04-12-2011, 9:13 PM
i have a unconverted saiga 7.62x39. first you'll need a bullet button installed to have the mag "fixed", its a ***** to remove from that point. i think thats about it, unconverted saiga comes with a none-pistol grip stock.

below is the rifle i bought, mississippi auto arms was nice enough to install the bullet button for me before it was shipped over. by law you need to have the bullet button installed before shipment to CA or it is a federal crime.

Wow... misinformation there. The Saiga is a "sporterized" AK. No need to add a bullet button unless you start adding "evil features". CA shops sell the Saigas as-is.

bloodhawke83
04-12-2011, 9:17 PM
Wow... misinformation there. The Saiga is a "sporterized" AK. No need to add a bullet button unless you start adding "evil features". CA shops sell the Saigas as-is.

nice, i didn't know of that. i am fine with the sporting stock it comes with, now i just need to remove the bullet button. :(

SammyL
04-12-2011, 9:40 PM
How about putting together an AR15 that shoots the 7.62x39 round. Uses the same lower, buffer tube, stock, and LPK, just a different upper and magazines for it. I put one together myself that shoots this round since I have a Saiga 7.62x39 and a SKS already. Don't have to buy as many different rifle rounds, and less weight to carry to the range.

vintagedude88
04-12-2011, 11:13 PM
i have a unconverted saiga 7.62x39. first you'll need a bullet button installed to have the mag "fixed", its a ***** to remove from that point. i think thats about it, unconverted saiga comes with a none-pistol grip stock.

Thats completely WRONG. The stock Saiga rifle in "unconverted" form is legal in Kalifornia without a mag lock.

Only when it is converted to a pistol grip is when you need to worry about a mag lock.

stix213
04-12-2011, 11:45 PM
Hmmmm, there has to be a pretty good highly reliable firearm other than the Colt Sporter that's chambered in 7.62x39.... I'm pretty sure there is a rather famous one, but having trouble remembering what its called..... Will have to think on this one....

C.W.M.V.
04-12-2011, 11:50 PM
Hmmmm, there has to be a pretty good highly reliable firearm other than the Colt Sporter that's chambered in 7.62x39.... I'm pretty sure there is a rather famous one, but having trouble remembering what its called..... Will have to think on this one....

Ha! i know I read that and stopped, then read it again thinking "is this serious, REALLY?"

AK 47, and never look back.
You want synthetic, go buy a plastic stock and some railed handguards, there are tons of them.

Ryan in SD
04-13-2011, 12:57 AM
I'm not 100% sure but I think AK47's are 7.62x39. If they are, I would totally get one if I were in your situation.

ZX-10R
04-13-2011, 6:36 AM
Ha! i know I read that and stopped, then read it again thinking "is this serious, REALLY?"

AK 47, and never look back.
You want synthetic, go buy a plastic stock and some railed handguards, there are tons of them.

This is the answer.

bloodhawke83
04-13-2011, 8:56 AM
Thats completely WRONG. The stock Saiga rifle in "unconverted" form is legal in Kalifornia without a mag lock.

Only when it is converted to a pistol grip is when you need to worry about a mag lock.

i forgot to correct that one. :D

straykiller
04-13-2011, 10:37 AM
all the different ak-47 from different locations, romanian, polish, egyptian you get my point the list goes on..... now start collecting.......goo

saigarocks
04-13-2011, 10:52 AM
YEP, I'VE GOT A SAIGA - ALL NEW RUSSIAN PARTS - AND LESS THAN AN AK

portegee
04-13-2011, 2:22 PM
Or you could get a mini 30 and tear it up with that

C_1
04-13-2011, 2:37 PM
So.. OP... did you, umm.. ah.. get an AK or Saiga yet? :)

hamheart
04-13-2011, 9:52 PM
looks like it will be a saiga for the price and and the fact that it is ca legal right off the bat. I am new to the whole online gun buying thing and i am wondering if i could get some info on the process. thanks for all the help

zfields
04-13-2011, 10:08 PM
how bout a Mini30?

Vipersx911
04-13-2011, 10:57 PM
i have a unconverted saiga 7.62x39, 10 round mag. i think thats about it, unconverted saiga comes with a none-pistol grip stock.


below is the rifle i bought, mississippi auto arms was nice enough to install the bullet button for me before it was shipped over. with pistol grips, by law, you need to have the bullet button installed before shipment to CA or it is a federal crime. you have to chose between a detachable magazine or a pistol grip. one or the other

http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/saiga-762x39-rifle-with-20-barrel-iz133-p-432.html

16" barrel is the minimum length you need, i got the 20".

http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/saiga-762x39-rifle-with-163-barrel-izhmash-legion-p-1272.html

recoil is nothing, i didn't have any problems shooting Sunday.

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.html

I am also a fan of Mississippi Auto Arms, I got my aftermarket parts for my Saiga, although it is 7.62x51. I enjoy the platform and have switched everything out to essentially a Dragunov that is all Synthetic. The platform runs phenominally and is easily reconfigured into essentially whatever you want to do with it. I am also an AK owner but Model 74. Essentially the same platform minor differences, but both platforms perform well in many different situations as well as conditions. I would recommend both, if you are in SD I would also recommend Direct Action Solutions. They stock all of the different AK variants including converted Saiga.

hamheart
04-15-2011, 6:39 AM
how bout a Mini30?
from what iv'e read the mini is less reliable than the saiga, if you feel otherwise let me know.

ElvenSoul
04-15-2011, 7:39 AM
No VZ58 Love?

c good
04-15-2011, 3:29 PM
from what iv'e read the mini is less reliable than the saiga, if you feel otherwise let me know.

Thousands of rounds through my Mini-30's over the last 20 years. All brands of ammo. No problems. Accuracy is not as good as an AR-15 platform but on par with SKS's, AK's, Saiga's, etc. HTH c good

hamheart
04-17-2011, 4:27 PM
well it looks like it is gong to bet the saiga, however i was wondering if anyone knows where to get 10 round 7.62x39 mags that will work with my colt sporter.

smittty
04-17-2011, 7:13 PM
There are other rifles not mentioned such as the CZ VZ58, CZ 527 Carbine, Mini-30, Ruger Hawkeye and now Savage chambered their Scout rifle in this caliber.

imarangemaster
04-18-2011, 7:00 AM
VZ58 Czech. Not another AK, but striker fired. Get 10 round California version with mag lock or Kydex Solar Tactical paddle and fixed stock version for use with legal pre-ban high-caps. Sold my Saiga after I got mine!