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NoCash4theRange
04-10-2011, 7:22 PM
I was Thinking about purchasing this Saiga 545x39. What do you all think about this rifle? I was going to start an AR build but I seen this and the price is just right. Is this a case of you get what you pay for? I still plan on building an AR down the road. Thanks in advance for your help.

-NoCash






http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct797.aspx

Rob454
04-10-2011, 7:30 PM
Ammo is cheap and plentiful. I am not sure about the mags though. Those may be harder to find

762.DEFENSE
04-10-2011, 8:11 PM
You're good to go with Saigas. Finding the mags can be the only problem. Secondly the ammo is dirt cheap... I've seen a 1000 rounds go for $180 easily.

zfields
04-10-2011, 8:31 PM
id go with the 762x39. much easier to find ammo and mags.

ElvenSoul
04-10-2011, 8:35 PM
The ammo is cheap..but where are you going to shoot it? Not Condor Zone Friendly.

G-Solutions
04-10-2011, 8:45 PM
The 5.45x39 has a couple of advantages, less recoil and lower price are among those.

The mags and the bi-metal projectiles are the drawbacks. I've not (yet) seen reasonably priced 5.45 factory mags.

7.62x39 provides a lot more options.

As far as robustness of the platform goes: I have fired 1500+ rounds through my Saiga and have yet to experience a malfunction. During two classes (http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?79418-Advanced-Saiga-Rifle-Gunfighting-Los-Angeles-Jan-15-16&daysprune=365) dedicated to the Saiga only the one non-Saiga in the class (M1-SOCOM) experienced FTF's. The Saigas ran without problems. My AR has barely ever seen the outside of the safe since I got the Saiga.

Rob454
04-10-2011, 9:22 PM
The ammo is cheap..but where are you going to shoot it? Not Condor Zone Friendly.

Why not? as long as you are not hunting there is no regulation against target practicing with lead ammo. you can't HUNT game with it you're right on that

axhoaxho
04-10-2011, 9:29 PM
I was Thinking about purchasing this Saiga 545x39. What do you all think about this rifle? I was going to start an AR build but I seen this and the price is just right. Is this a case of you get what you pay for? I still plan on building an AR down the road. Thanks in advance for your any help.

-NoCash


Just a thought.... If you are still planning on building an AR down the road, you might consider getting the Saiga .223 instead (which is good for both 5.56x45mm NATO and .223 Remington.) That way you can use the same ammos on both rifles.

Regards,

zfields
04-10-2011, 9:35 PM
Just a thought.... If you are still planning on building an AR down the road, you might consider getting the Saiga .223 instead (which is good for both 5.56x45mm NATO and .223 Remington.) That way you can use the same ammos on both rifles.

Regards,

finding mags are a *****. The promags / surefire ones suck.

MrPlink
04-11-2011, 4:44 AM
bimetal rounds isnt much of an issue up here in the Bay Area, and since OP is in San Jose, its a none issue.

Do a conversion, Ak74 mags arent hard to find at all.

P.S.
I relate to your username. Mostly because I blow all my cash on new guns!

NoCash4theRange
06-23-2011, 10:36 PM
The ammo is cheap..but where are you going to shoot it? Not Condor Zone Friendly.

I could probably google it. But what's Condor Zone Friendly?

dk94044
06-24-2011, 8:20 AM
Condor Zone Friendly = lead free ammo

s30
06-24-2011, 8:48 AM
tapco makes 5.45x39 10rnd mags and surplus ak mags are plentiful. only saiga mags are rare.

Whiterabbit
06-24-2011, 9:11 AM
Barnes makes a banded solid in .22 cal. I think a tipped TSX also.

smle-man
06-24-2011, 10:38 AM
I like mine in .223 and the 5.45 is essentially the same thing performance wise. The only problem is that the only 5.45 that I've seen is bi-metal bullet and many ranges in CA won't allow it to be used due to fire danger.

peterhodges
06-24-2011, 11:55 AM
Can't go wrong with a Saiga. Ultra-reliable and inexpensive.

Their only failing is you always want another one...

morrcarr67
06-24-2011, 12:46 PM
I like mine in .223 and the 5.45 is essentially the same thing performance wise. The only problem is that the only 5.45 that I've seen is bi-metal bullet and many ranges in CA won't allow it to be used due to fire danger.

I was at Lytle Creek yesterday and the RM told me that they are still in winter mode and you can shoot whatever you want. When they change to summer mode no more "steal core". If you have "lead core bimetal jacketed" ammo all you will need to do is let them remove the bullet from one cartridge so they can cut in half and verify that it is lead and not steal.

morrcarr67
06-24-2011, 12:50 PM
You're good to go with Saigas. Finding the mags can be the only problem. Secondly the ammo is dirt cheap... I've seen a 1000 rounds go for $180 easily.

J&G has surplus for $150 plus shipping for 1080 or factory new for 229.90 for 1000.

axhoaxho
06-24-2011, 3:25 PM
Just FYI -- This place has the OEM Saiga .223 10-rounds magazins in stock. I bought a few from them recently, and the service was great.

Regards,

http://www.saigastock.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=24&products_id=117