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Grakken
11-10-2006, 04:56 PM
So with Democrats seizing control of both houses and probably the White House in 08, who here believes that the Dems will push another AWB through or some absurd ammo tax or some other leftist pinko crap? Please discuss.

Guinness
11-10-2006, 05:03 PM
Umm, I say 1, 2 AND 3!

tiki
11-10-2006, 05:12 PM
I don't know about the AWB. Didn't they get slammed the last time they did this?

Joe
11-10-2006, 05:14 PM
I don't know about the AWB. Didn't they get slammed the last time they did this?

they might have got slammed, but it still passed.

chris
11-10-2006, 05:17 PM
they might have got slammed, but it still passed.

they got slammed because it passed and paid for it dearly. i don't think they'll try it again. but then again look at the speaker of the house. what could happen could be from total registration of all firearms and a license to posses and use ammuntion. who knows.

gunrun45
11-10-2006, 05:49 PM
All of the above that they can get away with.
My wife does not vote. She could not understand why I was so ticked off the morning after the elections. I tried to explain to her that she was part of the problem but that just netted me a night on the couch :eek:

grammaton76
11-10-2006, 06:20 PM
If they do go for an AWB, this time they'll know not to compromise and allow a sunset. They allowed a sunset last time because they were sure it'd be renewed, and it wasn't.

This time, there will be no sunset and they'll go ahead and take the fallout in the short term, in pursuit of their long term goal: total disarmament.

M. Sage
11-10-2006, 07:06 PM
I don't think they'll push anything. Gun control - oops, the term is now "gun SAFETY" (WTF!?!) - was a huge non-issue. The main reason for pushing gun control was to get more votes (not that there aren't some of them that truly believe in it, but I think most don't).

Tzvia
11-10-2006, 07:21 PM
All of the above that they can get away with.
My wife does not vote. She could not understand why I was so ticked off the morning after the elections. I tried to explain to her that she was part of the problem but that just netted me a night on the couch :eek:

She didn't vote and YOU spent the night on the coutch? Something's wrong here...

FatKatMatt
11-10-2006, 07:42 PM
I voted for a more insidious plot, though I do not know what it may be. Perhaps they will make the AW ban look more innocuous so it will be more easily passed, maybe they will tie it to a prominent bill so it will just coast on through as someone has previously stated. They will do something for sure and the Demoncrats will use all their cunning to get it passed. Molon Labe I say.

hoffmang
11-10-2006, 10:29 PM
To pass the senate, the Dems need 51 votes. One of those 51 is Democrat Senator Elect Jim Webb from Virginia. A combat vet, he has an "A" NRA rating.

Nothing truly bad will get through the Senate or a Bush veto on the gun side.

-Gene

PIRATE14
11-11-2006, 01:33 PM
To pass the senate, the Dems need 51 votes. One of those 51 is Democrat Senator Elect Jim Webb from Virginia. A combat vet, he has an "A" NRA rating.

Nothing truly bad will get through the Senate or a Bush veto on the gun side.

-Gene

While I tend to agree here......they might try to tie it to some bill related to Terrorism........keep an eye out!!!!!!

klmmicro
11-12-2006, 06:43 AM
Maybe they will pass another AWB and while inconvenient, it might actually prove to be a good thing.

The last one was a disaster. It cost a lot politically and also accomplished one other thing: the ban did NOTHING. It can now be argued successfully that the ban was wholy ineffective, and there in lies the silver lining.

In order to be effective, a new ban will have to dig way deeper into the 2nd and that will get this issue to the US Supreme Court. The libs do not want ANY firearms case making it there as a single ruling could effectively quash their overall plans of disarming the populace real quick.

A favorable ruling from SCOTUS and then we have strong grounds to defend from in the future.

joe4702
11-12-2006, 07:24 AM
If they get a Dem president in 08 and strengthen their numbers in Congress, watch out! For now, probably not much.

furryrabbit
11-12-2006, 05:11 PM
was there an all the above?

mblat
11-12-2006, 09:37 PM
To pass the senate, the Dems need 51 votes. One of those 51 is Democrat Senator Elect Jim Webb from Virginia. A combat vet, he has an "A" NRA rating.

Nothing truly bad will get through the Senate or a Bush veto on the gun side.

-Gene

Like they will have any trouble to find several RINO' in the senate....

EDIT:
Regardless about the thread question - I selected AWB, but ammo tax would be the next logical step.... somehow they will need to pay for all those new "citizens" welfare....

Outlaw Josey Wales
11-12-2006, 11:37 PM
A favorable ruling from SCOTUS and then we have strong grounds to defend from in the future.

In much the same way that the government does not belong in a woman's womb, neither do they belong in our gun safes! The best way to assure this is to never surrender any firearms in the first place!

Satex
11-13-2006, 10:00 AM
I think the democrats will focus on winning the next presidential elections. Therefore, I believe they will focus on the top two social issues: the war and the economy. I believe that any weapons legislation will only come about if they feel the first two haven't won them enough votes.
I also think that they will probably tackle other issues such as medical and social security before they start playing around with firearms.
History shows that when elections yield a balanced govt, nothing much gets done as none of the sides can ever really push their agenda through.

hoffmang
11-13-2006, 12:23 PM
On the 2A - Parker v. DC was argued this morning in the DC Court of Appeals. I don't have news yet, but I'll post as soon as I hear something.

-Gene

stag1500
11-13-2006, 03:30 PM
If they get a Dem president in 08 and strengthen their numbers in Congress, watch out! For now, probably not much.

There's a chance that the Republicans might regain one of the Houses of Congress in '08, especially if the prospect of a Democrat president looks good. I think people are beginning to see the danger of having one party in control of both the Congress and the White House. A lot of people prefer a divided government.