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jl123
04-04-2011, 7:06 AM
Just saw the trailer on HBO. Hit a bunch of Brady talking points......but then had a pro-gun say blah blah blah.....I'm not really feeling enthusiastic about this one. The name is Gun Fight.

http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/gun-fight/index.html#/documentaries/gun-fight/synopsis.html

The director (Barbara Kopple) was born in 1946 and is from New york......oh this is going to be bad.

This will obviously touch on law, but if this is the wrong section, feel free to move it.


Found it mentioned on a liberal gun site.....anyone heard of these guys?
http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7187&p=59274

Found this, which makes it sound anti-gun for sure:
http://www.fullframefest.org/more_film_info.php?id=4008

Airing 4/11 at 9:30pm

Unable to find the trailer on the internet.

Darthbauer
04-04-2011, 7:15 AM
bummer, link is not working. Probably a good thing though as some anti BS would piss me off and that's not a good way to start the day.

Window_Seat
04-04-2011, 7:15 AM
...
http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/gun-fight/index.html#/documentaries/gun-fight/synopsis.html :eek:
...


Fixed the URL for ya and replaced the smiley. :cool:

Erik.

jl123
04-04-2011, 7:18 AM
Fixed the URL for ya and replaced the smiley. :cool:

Erik.

If fixed it in my OP too.

Oh man my blood pressure...I can feel it rising...stuff like this must REALLY suck for the old dudes.

Blue Ridge Reef
04-04-2011, 7:21 AM
Not looking to be very balanced from the synopsis.

NotEnufGarage
04-04-2011, 7:22 AM
This is why I don't have HBO.

Ripon83
04-04-2011, 7:27 AM
It will be a slanted anti gun messange or "tint" if you will. Not enough to rile the masses against them and cause mass canceling memberships - too bad. I'd love to see one of these "outlets" get what they have coming.

CalNRA
04-04-2011, 7:33 AM
Having HBO doing a documentary on guns is like having my 98 year old grandmother making a documentary on moto-cross. No one is gonna stop you, but...

tankarian
04-04-2011, 7:40 AM
Not surprised. It is the same network that brought explicit deviant sexual behavior (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Sex) into the mainstream TV entertainment. It's run by gun hating elitist liberals from Hollyweird who believe only the ruling class (them) has the right to be protected against criminals.


Did I mentioned HBO also airs a show hosted by this low life leftist punk?

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRpHjQhFrCxHNpwB9r3jlGXV9Ct3ek-gmtYEAkWIt5-BMSkQlthuQ&t=1

Paper Boy
04-04-2011, 7:54 AM
" risk their lives to acquire damning hidden-camera footage at free-for-all gun shows. The threat is so severe that Wintemute now leaves his will on the kitchen counter before heading to a show."
http://www.fullframefest.org/more_film_info.php?id=4008

Come on really? Man I am going to the wrong gun shows I have never made out a will befor attending...

SanPedroShooter
04-04-2011, 8:03 AM
Sorry, they use the words "common sense" in the description. Gun grabbers own the MSM.

I never thought I would say this but, thank God for the internet...
The enemies of freedom cant capitalize on disinformation anymore, like in '34, '68 and '94

And I think the kook in the blurb wears a vest because he trys to trick people into breaking the law, I would imagine they might be pretty pissed if they found out. Who knows, maybe he confronts them on the spot. Everyone knows that unethical gun sellers at gun shows are good reason to require the forced intervention of the government into the dispositions of your private property. Its just "common sense"

kpezzy
04-04-2011, 8:17 AM
I'm canceling HBO today

Spetsnazos
04-04-2011, 8:21 AM
i might download it and watch it on Saturday morning right before the range. This way I'll be pumped up :D

BusBoy
04-04-2011, 8:27 AM
So are there any "Fire Mission" plans like what jdberger did in LA? They are having a screening and then afterwards... CONVERSATION! :eek: lol seems like a great time to inject some fact into what people just saw... even though Im betting itll be MSM showing up still... rubbing fact into their faces would be epic.

quote from website...

Durham Convention Center 201 Foster Street
Cinema Three — Seats 470
Screening Info:
Friday , 15-Apr
7:10 PM
Cinema Three

Conversation following screening with filmmakers Barbara Kopple, Marc Weiss, Williams Cole and Bob Eisenhardt and special guests Colin Goddard and Richard Feldman

nick
04-04-2011, 8:45 AM
" risk their lives to acquire damning hidden-camera footage at free-for-all gun shows. The threat is so severe that Wintemute now leaves his will on the kitchen counter before heading to a show."
http://www.fullframefest.org/more_film_info.php?id=4008

Come on really? Man I am going to the wrong gun shows I have never made out a will befor attending...

It's the beef jerky, it can really get to ya...

SanPedroShooter
04-04-2011, 8:50 AM
So are there any "Fire Mission" plans like what jdberger did in LA? They are having a screening and then afterwards... CONVERSATION! :eek: lol seems like a great time to inject some fact into what people just saw... even though Im betting itll be MSM showing up still... rubbing fact into their faces would be epic.

quote from website...

Durham Convention Center 201 Foster Street
Cinema Three — Seats 470
Screening Info:
Friday , 15-Apr
7:10 PM
Cinema Three

We NEED our people in the audience to ask embarrassing questions... Anybody know anybody involved with with the NC NRA?

jdberger
04-04-2011, 9:10 AM
Let's keep in mind that Dr. Garen Wintemute is a bought and paid for tool of the Joyce Foundation (http://www.joycefdn.org/content.cfm/home).

In 2009 he received a $175K grant from them:

4/16/2009 $175K/24 Mo. Grant (http://www.joycefdn.org/content.cfm/grant-list?GrantID=31277&GrantDetails=1)
For core support of the Violence Prevention Research Program's work on research and policy development focused on firearm violence and its prevention.
Of course, the Violence Prevention Research Program (http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/vprp/publications/) isn't necessarily interested in violence, just guns.

Firearm Retailers’ Willingness to Participate in an Illegal Gun Purchase. Garen Wintemute. Journal of Urban Health: Bulletin of the New York Academy of Medicine 2010 87;5:865-878.

Gun Shows and Gun Violence: Fatally Flawed Study Yields Misleading Results. Garen J. Wintemute, MD, MPH, David Hemenway, PhD, Daniel Webster, ScD, MPH, Glenn Pierce, PhD, and Anthony A. Braga, PhD. American Journal of Public Health. Published on-line, ahead of print on August 19, 2010, as 10.2105/AJPH.2010.191916.

Duggan M, Hjalmarsson R, Jacob B. Letter to Garen Wintemute, David Hemenway, Daniel Webster, Glenn Pierce, and Anthony Braga. December 14, 2008.

Private-Party Gun Sales, Regulation, and Public Safety. Garen J. Wintemute, MD, MPH, Anthony A. Braga, PhD, and David M. Kennedy. The New England Journal of Medicine 2010;363;6:508-511.

Felonious or Violent Criminal Activity That Prohibits Gun Ownership Among Prior Purchasers of Handguns: Incidence and Risk Factors. Mona A. Wright, MPH, and Garen J. Wintemute, MD, MPH. The Journal of Trauma Injury, Infection, and Critical Care. Published online May, 2010.

Factors Affecting a Recently Purchased Handgun's Risk for Use in Crime under Circumstances That Suggest Gun Trafficking. Wright MA, Wintemute GJ, Webster DW. Journal of Urban Health: Bulletin of the New York Academy of Medicine 2010 87;3:352-364.

Erratum to: Factors Affecting a Recently Purchased Handgun's Risk for Use in Crime under Circumstances That Suggest Gun Trafficking. Wright MA, Wintemute GJ, Webster DW. Journal of Urban Health: Bulletin of the New York Academy of Medicine 2010 87;5:898.

Disproportionate sales of crime guns among licensed handgun retailers in the United States: a case control study. Wintemute GJ. Injury Prevention 2009 15:291-299.

<snip>

Oh, wait! Look at this! Garen Wintemute was one of the guys that went after the "Ring of Fire" companies in the early '90s (Raven, Jennings, Lorcin, Davis, etc.). His work gave us the "Safe Handgun Roster" (http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/) in California. Funny - they were specifically going after guns made by Phoenix Arms (previously Raven Arms). I count 6 on the roster. Apparently they weren't as "unsafe" as the good Doctor had insisted.

In some ways, though, Dr. Wintemute has helped us. His overreaching got us the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Lawful_Commerce_in_Arms_Act). It also managed to piss off a member of the family who was manufacturing those guns. It motivated him to stand up to the Antis who were bent on destroying his family. He went to law school and now he's one of the Calguns Foundations lawyers. We know him as Jason Davis (http://www.calgunlawyers.com/Davis_&_Associates/Jason_Davis.html).

BusBoy
04-04-2011, 9:23 AM
It also managed to piss off a member of the family who was manufacturing those guns. It motivated him to stand up to the Antis who were bent on destroying his family. He went to law school and now he's one of the Calguns Foundations lawyers. We know him as Jason Davis (http://www.calgunlawyers.com/Davis_&_Associates/Jason_Davis.html).
:eek: Now theres a tidbit of info I never knew. Man I love this place! :D

SanPedroShooter
04-04-2011, 9:29 AM
Okay I am reading some of these studies and they provide a good deal of insight into the overall strategies and intentions of those who would deny us our rights. Some of the methods they use to come to conclusions strain credulity...
Are there any links to studys debunking these studys and their methods? This must be what the brady are always whining about when they say the NRA wont let the Feds do similar "research"
I have seen the face of evil, and thy name is Joyce Foundation...

postal16
04-04-2011, 9:30 AM
After you watch this, you can watch the Showtime Penn and Teller Bulls*** episode where they give their take on Gun Control

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz5o1qEB5ok

SanPedroShooter
04-04-2011, 9:33 AM
Firearm Retailers’ Willingness to Participate in an Illegal Gun Purchase. Garen Wintemute. Journal of Urban Health: Bulletin of the New York Academy of Medicine 2010 87;5:865-878.

For example, if the dealer that is called tells the woman (reading from a script) that she can buy the gun and then do a PPT to her boyfriend (with in the law, and with all the waits and background check that go with it), that is a "qualified yes" indicating the dealer would engage in straw sales...

Their using telephone interviews and basing whoever answers the phone's answer to determine weather that FFL participates in straw sales. Thats like saying if someone calls my cell phone and asks me for weed, if I advise them to get their "green card" from a doctor, I am drug dealer...

beauregard
04-04-2011, 9:35 AM
Having HBO doing a documentary on guns is like having my 98 year old grandmother making a documentary on moto-cross. No one is gonna stop you, but...

Post of the day.

armedoffroader
04-04-2011, 9:36 AM
[QUOTE=8voice8;6135677]" ...free-for-all gun shows...QUOTE]

I'd love to see what a free-for-all gun show looks like :) Conjures images of myself and others goin no holds barred for cheap, exotic and plentiful firearms...and though I've never seen this occur, it would be awesome if it did.

CessnaDriver
04-04-2011, 9:38 AM
HBO to air PROPAGANDA about guns in America.


There, fixed it.

jshoebot
04-04-2011, 9:44 AM
So how many people are sending emails to HBO and cancelling their subscription? I know I just did :shrug:

nick
04-04-2011, 10:11 AM
So how many people are sending emails to HBO and cancelling their subscription? I know I just did :shrug:

No can do, I don't have HBO. I did send an email though, explaining why I don't have it :)