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carbide557
04-03-2011, 11:01 AM
Hello everyone, I am new to the site but i have been following it for a few years. I am looking to buy a Sig P226, and I saw this deal form the sig guys consisting in the P226 BTFO pistol, Sig rear nigh sights, front truglo sight and 4 magazines . can anyone tell me, What does BTFO stands for on the sig 226R ?

den888
04-03-2011, 2:32 PM
I don't have the answer, but, welcome!

loose_electron
04-03-2011, 3:18 PM
Its the black anodized version of the gun. I have a P226R SS which is the Stainless Steel variant.

Does the "BTFO" stand for a specific acronym? Not that I could find.

NSR500
04-03-2011, 3:21 PM
B = Black Nitron
TFO = TruGlo/Tritium Fiber Optic

loose_electron
04-03-2011, 3:32 PM
Ah.... Tnx!

NSR500
04-03-2011, 4:15 PM
No Problemo

SoCal Bob
04-03-2011, 7:11 PM
Welcome to Calguns, the land of answers.

carbide557
04-03-2011, 11:43 PM
Thanks everyone for the welcoming and NSR500 for the info,
I finally ended up buying it and shot a few rounds... this is how it went.. on round #4 failure to eject, on #8 failure to load and to finish it off after the final round (#10 ) the slide did not lock back ...brand new Sig P226 9mm BTFO, oiled and no reloads.
I didn't buy it online and they are accepting an exchange ..but not before them saying that it was not broken in and that it needed to be fired at least 1000 rounds.

NSR500
04-04-2011, 12:21 AM
Thanks everyone for the welcoming and NSR500 for the info,
I finally ended up buying it and shot a few rounds... this is how it went.. on round #4 failure to eject, on #8 failure to load and to finish it off after the final round (#10 ) the slide did not lock back ...brand new Sig P226 9mm BTFO, oiled and no reloads.
I didn't buy online and they are accepting an exchange ..but not before them giving me the excuse that it was not broken in and that it needed to be fired at least 1000 rounds.

1. What ammo were you using?

2. How many individual magazines did you use in the session?

3. How many rounds total did you fire?

Right off the bat I can tell you that the failure of the gun to "slide lock" after the last round might actually be YOU. The SIG platform has a very pronounced "Slide Stop/Lock/Release". If you are a shooter with a high tang grip with thumbs forward, it is possible to ride that lever preventing the slide from locking.
As for the FTE, FTL... I'd need you to answer the questions above before I can speculate and offer a remedy suggestion.
You've purchased a good gun, so don't throw in the towel just yet.

NSR500
04-04-2011, 12:29 AM
BTW...

With my first SIG (SP2022) I did have the same slide stop issue. After changing my grip the slide locks 100%. Now I know to check my right thumb every time I practice with the SP2022. I feel for the back of my left thumb with the pad of my right thumb. Therefore more of my thumb is supported on my support hand than it is against the frame.
I think it develops with 1911 shooters because of the safety. Every time I grab a 1911 my right thumb goes naturally to the safety, disengages it, and rides over it as the pistol is being fired. I treat it kind of like a thumb shelf.
Once you become aware of every minute aspect of your shooting, you can make strides in improvement. Good luck to you!

carbide557
04-04-2011, 12:42 AM
1 . Independence 9 mm luger 115 gr FMJ
2. 14 rounds
3. only one magazine

we did check how my hands were and according to the seller they seemed fine.
thanks for the tips though, i am going to try it .

NSR500
04-04-2011, 12:48 AM
1 . Independence 9 mm luger 115 gr FMJ
2. 14 rounds
3. only one magazine

we did check how my hands were and according to the seller it was ok.
But thanks for the tips !

Ah, okay...

1. I'm not too familiar with that ammo brand. It could be a possibility so try some WWB, UMC, or Federal.

2. Try a 100rd session and see if the problems persist, or decrease.

3. Mark that magazine and try the rest of the magazines that come with your gun. It may be a funky magazine since the magazine feeds the gun, and actuates the slide stop.

carbide557
04-04-2011, 1:13 AM
Tnx a lot for the advise, I appreciate you taking the time to help out .

NSR500
04-04-2011, 1:15 AM
No Problem. Welcome to Calguns!

6doubleR
04-05-2011, 1:36 PM
Congrats on the Sig purchase, and good look with resolving the issues.