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xbatis
03-26-2011, 10:13 PM
Hello- I'am in the market in getting a R700 SPS but I don't know what caliber to get what I want is a hunting rifle that i can use as an all around hunting gun. I was thinking on getting a 270 winchseter mag or 300 win but i am afraid that it might be too big for coyotes and just right for deer basically the right caliber for big game hunting. can someone please help.

thanks

G-forceJunkie
03-26-2011, 10:25 PM
.308 would be my choice.

CK_32
03-26-2011, 10:26 PM
a 308 will probably be your best bet. And if your shooting with in shorter distances a lot of people use .223 700's. But a 308 will be more than enough and the barrel life will be way better that the 300 WM or 270.

Legasat
03-26-2011, 10:27 PM
I agree, .308. Perfect for you are describing, and tons of different styles of ammo to feed it.

IrishPirate
03-26-2011, 10:39 PM
.308, FTW!!!

xbatis
03-27-2011, 12:03 AM
what type of game could you hunt with a 308 and how bad is its recoil?

seronian
03-27-2011, 12:10 AM
308

winxp_man
03-27-2011, 12:31 AM
.308 FTW I got me a SPS Tac .308 with a 20" barrel and I will tell you its a shooter. you cant go wrong with a hunting version. I had a regular SPS and it to was a shooter.

Legasat
03-27-2011, 7:50 AM
what type of game could you hunt with a 308 and how bad is its recoil?

.308 can hunt just about anything in CONUS (except maybe the largest Moose. or largest Elk), but even with a great shot, it might take them too.

The recoil is not huge, and with practice and proper technique, the recoil can be minimized to where it's no big deal at all.

CK_32
03-27-2011, 9:40 AM
what type of game could you hunt with a 308 and how bad is its recoil?

I dont hunt but from the word you can take out some good sized deer with a right placed bullet from a 308. And the recoil isnt bad at all. Its no .22 but its not a 50 cal either.. I shoot NATO right now (For the brass) and my shoulder gets pretty sore for it being a hotter round than a normal load.

But with my 175gr SMK's I can last a little longer. Just have good shooting form and you could last to about 50 to 80 rounds with out feeling like you shot some slugs from a shotty.

CSACANNONEER
03-27-2011, 9:49 AM
.308 because, you can go to just about any place that sells ammo and find some. This is a big plus when you're on a hunting trip and you discover that you left your beautiful hand rolled ammo in the box next to your front door or, TSA refuses to let you fly with your ammo because, it's not in the original packaging or, they just don't like the color of your kufiya.

CSDGuy
03-27-2011, 11:11 AM
I'd have to say .308 or .30-06... Either should be easily capable of taking basically all game in the CONUS. From all I've read, the R700 is a very versatile platform. Too bad I can't afford one... :(

xbatis
03-27-2011, 11:19 AM
thanks for the info you guys provided.

What barrel length do you guys recommend?

glockman19
03-27-2011, 11:32 AM
I'd have to say .308 or .30-06... Either should be easily capable of taking basically all game in the CONUS. From all I've read, the R700 is a very versatile platform. Too bad I can't afford one... :(

This is what I would have posted.

My hunting rifle is a Remington 700 CDL in .30-06.

It is light enough to carry all day and has the reach and stopping power.

CK_32
03-27-2011, 12:31 PM
Most hunting platforms come with a unneeded 24" barrel... I would recommend a 20" if you can find one or get it cut down. Plenty long.. People say you need a longer barrel but it has been proven time and time again that a 20" even a 18" can make it to 1000+ yards.

Since your hunting the only thing I think you should worry about the barrel is staying away from a bull barrel. If your humping that sh*t across the field that's extra weight you don't want. If your target shooting 90% of the time bull barrels are good barrels. But your probably going to be limited to 26" hunting rifles. Most 20" barrels are "tactical" so they come with bill barrels only. But your fine with anything. But to be honest you don't need anything past 22"s anymore.. It's just over kill now with the components and bullets we have at our disposal now.


Edit: guess I fell behind on times. Looks like factories went from all having 26" barrels to 22" for the vast majority of factory rifles.

toby
03-27-2011, 12:55 PM
Most all hunting rifles come with 22''-24'' barrels unless it's a magnum round? but even then very few are offered in 26'' anymore. go 308 and a 20'' is fine

BillyGoatMachine
03-27-2011, 1:01 PM
Most hunting platforms come with a unneeded 26" barrel... I would recommend a 20" if you can find one or get it cut down. Plenty long.. People say you need a longer barrel but it has been proven time and time again that a 20" even a 18" can make it to 1000+ yards.

Since your hunting the only thing I think you should worry about the barrel is staying away from a bull barrel. If your humping that sh*t across the field that's extra weight you don't want. If your target shooting 90% of the time bull barrels are good barrels. But your probably going to be limited to 26" hunting rifles. Most 20" barrels are "tactical" so they come with bill barrels only. But your fine with anything. But to be honest you don't need anything past 22"s anymore.. It's just over kill now with the components and bullets we have at our disposal now.

Amazing, finally somebody agrees with my opinions on barrel length:D


I dont hunt but from the word you can take out some good sized deer with a right placed bullet from a 308.

The .308 round will take down any deer on the planet earth. Like another poster mentioned, it's big enough for 99% of the game here in the U.S.
.308 FTW, and my second choice, .30-06

homemade
03-27-2011, 7:02 PM
7mm-08 or 243 also are great calibers

X-NewYawker
03-27-2011, 7:38 PM
For what you're talking about, .308

Snapping Twig
03-27-2011, 7:56 PM
Big fan of shorter barrels for humping around as well.

.308 and 30-06 are available most everywhere, as is .270, but...

I'm more inclined to suggest a 6.5/.264 bullet, say a .260 Rem?

.308 case and a .264 bullet = WIN.

.264 bullets have excellent SD and BC as well as a killing power not properly expressed in the stats. They buck the wind pretty good too. Long range stoppers and penetrators.

My 700 is a wildcat 6.5-06 and it's fantastic.

Skyler76
03-27-2011, 8:13 PM
I'd go 30-06. Much more variety of round on the shelf. Light, fast rounds and slow heavy hitters. It's going to allow you the biggest variety of game with a single barrel imho. The smaller game might not look so pretty when you go to pick up but it'll do the job if you choose the right ammo.

308 is a great round, the one I shoot most of, but I shoot paper about 80% of the time. I'd be happy to hunt with it but I don't.

nitis
03-27-2011, 8:32 PM
First off if you are buying a regular non varmint sps you have no option on barrel length. There coulb be one or two calibers that have 22" barrels but I am pretty sure they are all 24 unless they are a magnum then they are 26"

30.06 will have more HUNTING ammo available for good prices. But honestly so will the 270 and too big for coyotes I doubt that if you happen to shoot one that it will mind.

xbatis
03-31-2011, 10:33 AM
How far will a 308 caliber bullet travel?

rero360
03-31-2011, 10:46 AM
How far will a 308 caliber bullet travel?

depends on the bullet construction and the muzzle velocity. For hunting purposes, it really comes down to how comfortable you are in taking the shot, being positive to make a humane killing shot. For example, me with my .308, I feel comfortable in taking a shot on big game at 600 yards and closer, I know that inside that range I can place my bullet exactly where I want it no matter what the conditions are. However beyond 600 and things start to get iffy, so I would pass on any hunting shots beyond 600.

Now if you are talking about maximum range, like aiming the gun 45 degrees up in the air and touching one off, well then you're looking at a distance of like 3 miles.

Head416
03-31-2011, 3:08 PM
.30-06 is great for all purpose, same with .308. Assuming a bolt-action, why recommend .308 over .30-06 for a hunting rifle? For 1000+ yds the .308 has the edge in bullet selection, but I don't see any reason to recommend it over .30-06 for this purpose.

.270 is a bit lighter but still adequate for a skilled shooter to take elk. More than enough energy to take down deer. The lighter recoil may be advantageous for a new shooter to not develop a flinch.

Skyler76
03-31-2011, 3:20 PM
.30-06 is great for all purpose, same with .308. Assuming a bolt-action, why recommend .308 over .30-06 for a hunting rifle? For 1000+ yds the .308 has the edge in bullet selection, but I don't see any reason to recommend it over .30-06 for this purpose.

.270 is a bit lighter but still adequate for a skilled shooter to take elk. More than enough energy to take down deer. The lighter recoil may be advantageous for a new shooter to not develop a flinch.

I wouldn't say a 270 has less recoil than a 308 assuming the same bullet weight.

flyinryan
03-31-2011, 7:07 PM
I have a vtr in. 308 and a custom 700 in. 300 winmag .. being on both sides of the fence, if your not reloading stick other the ..308. Nib ammo foe the 300 can be anywhere from 37-70 a box. Definitely adds up if you don't roll your own. I recommend if your planing on staying <1000yrds 308 all day. However in can be done with a. 308 but if you want to play at the extended ranges a magnum caliber is suited for it a bit better. When I get stuck between a rock and a hard spot, I always let my wallet decide, most the time it errors on the side of most bang for the Buck.

CK_32
03-31-2011, 7:23 PM
How far will a 308 caliber bullet travel?

Farther than you will ever be able to shoot it.

Jonathan Doe
03-31-2011, 7:32 PM
If you get 308 Win caliber rifle and Fed or other brand bonded bullet (165 grains is my choice) that will be good for most big game animals. 308 is pretty accurate caliber, also.

subijitsu
03-31-2011, 7:40 PM
Im picking up my 700 SPS in 30-06 on Saturday, cant friggin wait. :)

308 would be a good choice since it is a good performer, lots of ammo choices, extremely versatile, and is very popular right now. I had a Rem model 7 in 308 that I sold to a friend that has taken many deer in Montana and even more pig here in CA. Personally I am more confident with the 30-06 over the 308, but I am a little weird.

I have been shooting a friends 270 lately that is really nice to shoot. It has been plucking coyotes off his property for a little while now and has been killing deer for years. It is a lot nicer on the shoulder than my old 30-06.

Enjoy your new rifle, whatever you choose!