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pennys dad
03-22-2011, 4:52 PM
April 19th, 1775, “the Day Marksmanship met History, and the Heritage was born…”

To ANY Calgunner that attends one of these shoots, snap a picture at the shoot with an instructor and posts it on Calguns and send me a PM with your name and address and I will send you a Calguns swag. If you score 210 or above and earn your Rfilemans patch, snap a picture at the shoot with an instructor holding your patch and posts it on Calguns with your score and send me a PM with your name and address and I will send you a Calguns/Appleseed swag.

http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq46/jacobrascon/April%2019th/as_1_1-001.jpg

pennys dad
03-22-2011, 4:53 PM
Azusa, CA - Apr 16-17 = INFO Link: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=21484.0

Castro Valley, CA - Apr 16-17 = INFO Link: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=18694.0

Corona, CA - Apr 16-17 = INFO Link: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=17839.0

Lemoore, CA - Apr 16-17 = INFO Link: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=19470.0

Piru, CA - Apr 16-17 = INFO Link: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=17838.0

Rainbow, CA - Apr 16-17 = INFO Link: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=18531.0

Ridgecrest, CA - Apr 16-17 = INFO Link: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=20162.0

Sacramento, CA - Apr 16-17 = INFO Link: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=18400.0

San Luis Obispo, CA - Apr 16-17 = INFO Link: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=20848.0

Santa Barbara, CA - Apr 16-17 = INFO Link: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=19468.0

Sunland, CA - Apr 16-17 = INFO Link: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=19469.0

PsychGuy274
03-25-2011, 12:01 PM
I'll see if my girlfriend and I can make the Azusa one

GettoPhilosopher
03-25-2011, 12:06 PM
I'm hitting Piru with my buddy for my birthday. Gotta finish my 20" AR before then! :)

pennys dad
03-31-2011, 6:50 PM
:D cool!
I will be at the Azusa shoot as well, I will find you and say Hi!

as_rocketman
03-31-2011, 9:38 PM
I'll be the Shoot Boss at Azusa. It'll be good to be back.

The sign-ups are starting to fill up, now that we've got some decent weather again... :D There's many ranges to choose from for the big weekend, but don't delay, or you might miss out. We do some special things on Patriot's Weekend that you won't find again until next year.

tuna quesadilla
03-31-2011, 10:54 PM
I'm registered for the Azusa shoot :D I'm facing a bit of a dilemma, however.

I had initially planned on bringing my AR-15, but I've since realized that I'd rather not eat up $200 worth of ammo in one sitting :eek:

I'd like to take my Ruger 10/22 to save on ammo but it's bone stock and I don't think I can come up with the spending money in time for the Appleseed to outfit it as an LTR with tech sights and sling and such. I know the standard sights are pretty bad and shooting without a sling is even worse.

As somebody with very little rifle background (mostly pistol and shotgun) do you think I could still benefit from this event with a totally stock 10/22? Or should I just bite the bullet (no pun intended) and bring the AR15?

PsychGuy274
03-31-2011, 11:06 PM
I'm registered for the Azusa shoot :D I'm facing a bit of a dilemma, however.

I had initially planned on bringing my AR-15, but I've since realized that I'd rather not eat up $200 worth of ammo in one sitting :eek:

I'd like to take my Ruger 10/22 to save on ammo but it's bone stock and I don't think I can come up with the spending money in time for the Appleseed to outfit it as an LTR with tech sights and sling and such. I know the standard sights are pretty bad and shooting without a sling is even worse.

As somebody with very little rifle background (mostly pistol and shotgun) do you think I could still benefit from this event with a totally stock 10/22? Or should I just bite the bullet (no pun intended) and bring the AR15?

Everyone can benefit from an Appleseed no matter what. However, their website says to have a GI sling so you should have that at the very least.

And I'm signing up for the Azusa too so I'll see ya there!

Rock6.3
04-01-2011, 6:32 AM
Put a cheap scope on that 10/22. Almost anything is better than the factory sights on that rifle.

as_rocketman
04-01-2011, 8:03 AM
If you can't scope it, at least try to get your 10/22 zeroed ahead of time. The biggest issue with Ruger stock sights is that they are annoying to adjust.

I've seen two people make Rifleman with bone-stock 10/22's (after zip-tying GI slings to their stocks). It can be done.

Vandal.
04-01-2011, 10:45 AM
ok im confused...

how much ammo will this event need? also how is the scoring done and what not..
i would like to make it to the Sunland shoot.
what stuff would i need? are slings "NEEDED"?
also need to zero my aimpoint... ? are they allowed?

i feel like a noob.... :(

Eljay
04-01-2011, 8:29 PM
Here's a nice what to bring list: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=8162.0

I'd emphasize bringing lots of ammo (you can always bring it back). They'll teach you without a sling but the sling techniques are very cool and it would be a shame not to learn those too. They're also cheap - the only real issue is if you don't have the larger military sized 1 1/4 inch swivels you'll need some. Zero the aimpoint at 25 meters ideally but it doesn't have to be perfect - they'll teach you how to fine tune that anyway. You'll see all kinds of optics and things - the aimpoint's fine if that's what you're using. I'd say at the one I went to it was about half iron sights and half scopes.

tuna quesadilla
04-01-2011, 10:29 PM
Everyone can benefit from an Appleseed no matter what. However, their website says to have a GI sling so you should have that at the very least.

And I'm signing up for the Azusa too so I'll see ya there!

Put a cheap scope on that 10/22. Almost anything is better than the factory sights on that rifle.

If you can't scope it, at least try to get your 10/22 zeroed ahead of time. The biggest issue with Ruger stock sights is that they are annoying to adjust.

I've seen two people make Rifleman with bone-stock 10/22's (after zip-tying GI slings to their stocks). It can be done.

Thanks guys. You know, I think I'll just bring the AR and shoot centerfire. 400 rounds is nothing compared to what I'll shoot in my lifetime, and an Appleseed shoot is not exactly something I get to do every day. :D

pennys dad
04-02-2011, 7:06 AM
Ya Tuna_Q I agree, we gather all this centerfire ammo up and store just so we can go out and buy 22lr's to shoot, what the heck!

as_rocketman
04-02-2011, 9:08 AM
ok im confused...

how much ammo will this event need? also how is the scoring done and what not..
i would like to make it to the Sunland shoot.
what stuff would i need? are slings "NEEDED"?
also need to zero my aimpoint... ? are they allowed?

i feel like a noob.... :(

Typical round count is 450, but sometimes more. If you bring 750 there's almost no chance you'll run out.

Slings are extremely recommended. You can get a good one for ten bucks and hold it down with zip ties if you must.

Aimpoints will work just fine. Any sighting system is fine except indirect fire. :D

GettoPhilosopher
04-02-2011, 11:58 AM
Two questions for me (Appleseed noob).

1: For Piru, I'm planning on shooting .22 on Sat (I have ~400rds) and 5.56 on Sun (200 rds). Is that sufficient, or am I going to run out?

2: Budget-wise, it's looking like I'm not going to be able to register until 4/14 or so. Do I need to worry it'll be sold out?

Eljay
04-02-2011, 2:43 PM
1. My information's second hand but I think the 200's a bit light for Sunday. If you do two redcoats that's 26 rounds (that's the traditional way of starting and finishing - 13 rounds each). And then it's 40 per AQT, plus whatever additional drills they have... if they did five AQTs and the two redcoats that's 226 right there. Does anybody know a minimum/typical/maximum number of AQTs on a Sunday?
2. The website says there are currently 34 slots open. http://www.eventbrite.com/event/983639091 - maybe just keep an eye on that and if it gets under 10 find some extra credit card space somewhere just in case?

as_rocketman
04-02-2011, 3:43 PM
We shoot more on Sunday than we do on Saturday. 200 rounds will likely not be enough, and you will probably want to stick with your .22 anyway. I'd recommend you pick up more .22. It's not expensive.

Pre-registration closes some time (48 hours?) before the event anyway. If you have to register on-site you might be OK -- don't know if it'll sell out or not -- but it's more expensive. It helps us to be able to plan.

DavidRSA
04-02-2011, 3:59 PM
Two questions for me (Appleseed noob).

1: For Piru, I'm planning on shooting .22 on Sat (I have ~400rds) and 5.56 on Sun (200 rds). Is that sufficient, or am I going to run out

I have a similar question. Can I use my .22 cal AR on Saturday and my 5.56 on Sunday? Regarding the 5.56, will the fact that it is a bulletbutton AR prevent me from using it at the shoot?

Also, what exactly is a USGI sling? Looks like a regular 2 point sling to me. Can I use my Tactical Intervention nylon 2 point sling?

as_rocketman
04-02-2011, 4:08 PM
You can bring more than one rifle, and you can switch. However, I'd recommend you only switch once you're happy with your progress on the .22, or if your .22 breaks down.

I did the same thing at my first Appleseed -- brought my Marlin .22, and planned to switch to my AR-15 after I learned everything. As it turned out, I never switched.

A USGI sling is a simple cotton or nylon 2-point sling, quick-detach clip in the back, and a box buckle to allow forming a loop. You can use any sling you want. Some work better than others. A lot of students rethink their gear after their first Appleseed, you'll just have to find out what works for you.

DavidRSA
04-04-2011, 11:30 PM
Probably will just stick with my MP15-22.

What distance should I zero it at?

as_rocketman
04-05-2011, 8:28 AM
25 meters. For a .22LR, this is effectively a 60-meter "battlesight zero."

nwoods
04-08-2011, 11:01 PM
Thinking of coming again on Saturday the 16th. I'll post up here early next week to confirm.

goofcat
04-09-2011, 6:59 PM
Just signed up for the Sunland 4/16-17. Very excited! Can't wait. I'm a total newbie so I'll be learning tons and hopefully developing good habits.

I ordered a cotton sling 3 weeks ago from the appleseed store. Have not heard word one about if it will be coming anytime soon. What are my options if I don't get it in time? Will they be selling them at the Sunland shoot? Is there a place in L.A. I can go and buy one?

I already picked up the HK style hooks I need for my SIG 522, I just need to the the sling.

Lastly, who is the "shot boss" in charge of the Angeles shoot? Will I be contacted by him before the day?

as_rocketman
04-09-2011, 11:10 PM
Cameron (CamlJr. on the RWVA forum) will be the shoot boss at Angeles. He usually has a couple of spare slings in case yours doesn't show up in time.

We don't send reminders or anything, unless there's something unusual (change of venue, etc.), so just show up. Bring a printed copy of your confirmation page just in case.

DavidRSA
04-12-2011, 12:07 PM
I booked already both both days. Sunday may be dicey for me... would I be able to do the Sunday portion at a later date?

Rock6.3
04-12-2011, 2:57 PM
I booked already both both days. Sunday may be dicey for me... would I be able to do the Sunday portion at a later date?

If you can only do one day, make it Saturday.

If you come back, do both days, it's worth it.

as_rocketman
04-12-2011, 9:57 PM
I booked already both both days. Sunday may be dicey for me... would I be able to do the Sunday portion at a later date?

Send an e-mail to info@appleseedinfo.org to request changes to your registration, ASAP. Standard policy is a week's advance required for cancellation, but they'll probably work with you. (Decision is above my paygrade. :o)

nwoods
04-13-2011, 7:37 AM
Thinking of coming again on Saturday the 16th. I'll post up here early next week to confirm.

Okay, I registered. Both days, but I can't get there on Sunday until 1pm-ish.

Rock6.3
04-13-2011, 8:36 AM
Okay, I registered. Both days, but I can't get there on Sunday until 1pm-ish.

Please bring this to the attention of the event staff when you check in on Saturday morning.

nwoods
04-13-2011, 9:19 AM
Please bring this to the attention of the event staff when you check in on Saturday morning.

No problem. Part of this weekends event staff sits 20' from my desk :-)

racky
04-13-2011, 10:07 PM
does anybody have the sacramento shot boss's email address? i signed up to shoot on the 16th but my job decided to make me work that day and i need to cancel. i tried searching RWVA and i couldn't get a contact list. thanks.

tuna quesadilla
04-13-2011, 10:29 PM
One more question. I'm looking forward to the shoot at Burro this weekend, but I've never been to Burro before. Once I get to the range where will I be going? I can't imagine that they'd have us taking up their main firing line.

pennys dad
04-14-2011, 8:32 AM
We will be in North 1

tuna quesadilla
04-14-2011, 9:29 AM
Thank you.

goofcat
04-14-2011, 9:39 AM
Where will the AS be at Angeles? Are we at the regular range? or is there a private range? If so where is that?

GettoPhilosopher
04-14-2011, 8:05 PM
Got paid early, registered for Piru and bought my RWVA membership! Looking forward to it.

as_rocketman
04-14-2011, 8:16 PM
Where will the AS be at Angeles? Are we at the regular range? or is there a private range? If so where is that?

Pretty sure the Angeles shoot will be at Eagle's Nest. Not sure which one of the three, though. To get there, head west from the main parking lot, start up the hill, make a right and drive another two hundred meters. There's some concrete block walls and a covered picnic area up there.

DavidRSA
04-14-2011, 10:31 PM
I didn't see anything about a shoot at Angeles. Thats much closer to where I live. Can I switch?

as_rocketman
04-14-2011, 10:53 PM
No. Angeles is showing booked full. Besides, then you won't get to listen to me!

In general, you need to give scheduling several days in advance -- refund policy is on the FAQ page. We're volunteers, remember, we can't staff call centers round the clock. This is by far our busiest weekend to boot.

tuna quesadilla
04-16-2011, 5:44 PM
Well that was fun!

It was good to meet you, Rocketman and Penny's Dad.

The history lesson at lunchtime was really captivating, and although the booming sound of gunfire in the background may have been a little annoying at times it actually made the story even more exciting :D

as_rocketman
04-18-2011, 7:03 PM
Glad to meet you as well!

For everyone else, I've put up the After Action Report and some photo's over at the Appleseed forum: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=22169.0

We ran so many shoots last weekend (almost 90!) that you've got to hunt for it...

About the booming gunfire punctuating Saturday Stories: One time at West End we had a three-gun match going on next door while I told the Strikes. So I broke out my OUTDOOR VOICE. Worked great. The story went over so well I had people coming from three ranges over to see what was going on... ;)

choprzrul
04-18-2011, 7:18 PM
A special thank you to artkat2, laylopro, asminuteman, and everyone else that makes Appleseed possible. Patriots one and all.

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goofcat
04-18-2011, 9:13 PM
I attended Sunland. Learned a bunch.

Here is a pic with the shot boss Cameron.

http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k621/goofcat/2011-04-16090306.jpg

gorblimey
04-18-2011, 9:26 PM
Madonna mia! It's Tony Soprano...