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Southwest Chuck
03-22-2011, 10:55 AM
Oklahoma open-carry bill in trouble (http://www.usacarry.com/oklahoma-open-carry-hb-1647-in-trouble/)

Rep. John Bennett’s (R-Sallisaw) open carry bill was severely damaged in the Oklahoma House of Representatives late last night. Apparently Rep. Emily Virgin (D-Oklahoma City) had her amendment approved which adds the language ““if the person has filed an emergency protective order, or if a protective order has been granted by a district court”. This means only people with protective orders could openly carry under the house bill.

What a crock. Maybe Oklahomans can get a protective order against Barbara Boxer since she is threatening their 2nd A. Rights with her new Senate Bill. :rolleyes: Say, maybe we can too!:D

Coded-Dude
03-22-2011, 11:01 AM
oh man that sucks. I was hoping to open carry next time i visit. thanks for the news link

vantec08
03-23-2011, 3:42 AM
Crap. Expected better from Oklahoma.

NotEnufGarage
03-23-2011, 5:57 AM
Rep. Emily Virgin...

Recent college grad. Comes from a family of lawyers. This is someone the Tea Party needs to target next cycle. We don't need people with no real world experience writing the laws that all of us have to live under.

http://www.thelostogle.com/2010/07/12/vote-for-the-23-year-old-blonde-virgin-from-norman/

Paladin
03-23-2011, 7:03 AM
Rep. Emily Virgin...

Recent college grad. Comes from a family of lawyers. This is someone the Tea Party and the NRA need to target next cycle. We don't need people with no real world experience writing the laws that all of us have to live under.

http://www.thelostogle.com/2010/07/12/vote-for-the-23-year-old-blonde-virgin-from-norman/Fixed it for you. ;)

NotEnufGarage
03-23-2011, 9:25 AM
:cowboy:

Coded-Dude
03-23-2011, 9:40 AM
it looks like that is just one of many:

SB 129, sponsored by Senator Steven Russell R-Oklahoma City, would give anyone 18 years of age or older the right to openly carry a gun without a license or training.

HB 1439, sponsored by Representative Steve Vaughan R-Ponca City, would give business owners, managers and employees the right to shoot inside a business if they feared their life was in danger.

Another proposal, HB 1647, sponsored by Representative John Bennet R-Sallisaw, would allow anyone who files a protective order to openly carry a gun.

The Parking Lot/Worker Protection law, HB 1652, sponsored by Representative John Enns, R-Enid, is pushing a law that would make it legal for anyone with a concealed carry permit to lock their gun in their car in parking lots on tech center campuses, government agencies and professional sporting events.fox 23 - full article (http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/Packing-Heat-In-Oklahoma/nDc6FF_IYU2AmvyKsJaGZA.cspx)

Window_Seat
03-23-2011, 11:06 AM
I would rather see CC in OK. I strongly believe that it's time for more states to begin jumping onboard with AK, AZ, VT & WY. 2 states that are looking into this and attempting legislation for CC is CO & NH. Pro-2A residents of these states that start this kind of effort need to ask for CC as well, or a CC bill that also allows LOC (like Texas).

Erik.

Coded-Dude
03-23-2011, 11:12 AM
IIRC its pretty easy to get a CC permit in OK:

The following requirements shall apply to any person making application to the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation for a concealed handgun license pursuant to Oklahoma Statutes Title 21, Section 1290.1 et seq. The person must:

• be a citizen of the United States;

• establish a residency in the State of Oklahoma;

*For purposes of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, the term "residency" shall apply to any person who either possesses a valid Oklahoma driver license or state photo identification card and physically resides in this state or has permanent military orders within this state and possesses a valid driver license from another state where such person claims residency

• be at least 21 years of age;

• complete a firearms safety and training course;

demonstrate competence and qualifications with the type of pistol to be carried by the person (21 O. S., Section 1290.14);

submit proof of training and qualification or an exemption for training and qualification (21 O. S., Section 1290.14);

• submit the required fee;

• complete the application process as provided in 21 O. S., Section 1290.12;

• comply in good faith with the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act.source (http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Concealed_Weapons_Licensing/Conceal_Carry_Eligibility_Requirements.html)


obviously its not "constitutional carry," but it is a shall issue state

I find it interesting that one of those bills is pushing for legal 18 y/o open carry(based on what the military allows).

taperxz
03-23-2011, 11:15 AM
IIRC its pretty easy to get a CC permit in OK:

source (http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Concealed_Weapons_Licensing/Conceal_Carry_Eligibility_Requirements.html)


obviously its not "constitutional carry," but it is a shall issue state

I find it interesting that one of those bills is pushing for legal 18 y/o open carry(based on what the military allows).

Having to be a US citizen is not a legal requirement.

Coded-Dude
03-23-2011, 11:16 AM
is not a req or should not be a req?

taperxz
03-23-2011, 11:17 AM
Is an illegal requirement You don't have to be a US citizen

10001110101
03-23-2011, 1:15 PM
How many non-citizens would choose to live in Oklahoma? :hide:

Coded-Dude
03-23-2011, 1:28 PM
well....to be frank some of the 9/11 terrorist trained at OU's flight school.

Approximately 28.5 percent of the total population increase between 2000 and 2006 in Oklahoma was directly attributable to immigrants.

Latest numbers show about 85 thousand illegal immigrants and 35-40 thousand legal immigrants. Oklahoma is appealing due to low cost of living.

http://www.missourieconomy.org/images/indicators/cost_of_living/col4q10_chart1.jpg

btw - Missouri is blue because the graph was pulled from a Missouri website

Also this is an interesting map:

Composite Cost of Living (Scaled)
4th Quarter 2010

http://www.missourieconomy.org/images/indicators/cost_of_living/col4q10_map2.jpg