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M. Sage
10-21-2006, 7:05 PM
Long post. Sorry!

I'm taking her shooting tomorrow. Picked it up at City Arms for $200 + DROS + HSC, included the 2 issue mags, holster and cable lock (no pics of those). I'm really happy with its condition.

CZ 52, mag inserted, hammer cocked.
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/29321492444.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3769817)

Empty and de-cocked. The factory mags are the lower pair, the aftermarket are the upper. Ammo on the left is Wolf Gold 85 Gr hollow point. Ammo on right is Romainian surplus, probably 88 grain, and definitely steel-jacketed.
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/29321492429.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3769815)

Ammo close up. Same story.
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/29321492469.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3769816)

Right side, mag inserted, hammer cocked.
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/29321492516.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3769822)

M. Sage
10-21-2006, 7:06 PM
The pretty pretty bore (definitely click to enlarge this pic. It turned out great!).
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/29321492553.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3769821)

Roller locking breech and barrel in the slide.
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/29321492559.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3769820)

Top-down of the frame.
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/29321492442.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3769818)

Close-up of the frame where the rollers get cammed in.
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/29321492539.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3769819)

M. Sage
10-21-2006, 7:06 PM
How it looks in my hands. Ignore the fingernail of death, I smashed it a couple weeks ago, and I'm waiting for it to fall off.
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/29321492654.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3769825)

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/29321492659.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3769826)

The less-than-optimal mag release and removal method. You have to push the mag release to the rear, it's a simple tab on a spring that holds the mag in, and pull down on the toe of the mag to get it out of the pistol.
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/29321492631.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3769827)

Best sight picture I could manage on short notice. I'll have to play with manual focus for a better one.
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/29321492594.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3769824)

FatKatMatt
10-21-2006, 8:20 PM
Very nice.

M. Sage
10-21-2006, 8:38 PM
Thanks!

I still don't know how to date it, so I don't know what year it is. :confused:

It's going to Chabot tomorrow for my freebie trip. :D We'll see how it does on the public line. There'll be a 1911 in the group for a comparison. :D

FatKatMatt
10-21-2006, 8:46 PM
I was about to ask how much you paid for it before I saw the text at the top, pretty good deal. Tell me how it shoots, I might pick one up some day :)

M. Sage
10-21-2006, 8:57 PM
I will. If it's looking good on the pistol line, I'll slide on down to the rifle line and see how it patterns at 50 yards.

JPglee1
10-22-2006, 9:13 AM
The less-than-optimal mag release and removal method. You have to push the mag release to the rear, it's a simple tab on a spring that holds the mag in, and pull down on the toe of the mag to get it out of the pistol.
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/29321492631.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3769827)




Use the HEEL/PALM (palm against the heel of the gun, finger tips up) of yer offhand to pull the latch back while your finger tips pull down on the magazine lip in front.

If you practice you can do a mag change VERY fast on a CZ52...


I love mine. Removed the firing pin interlock and did a basic trigger job, REALLY helps the trigger pull to ditch the interlock.


JP

JPglee1
10-22-2006, 9:14 AM
I will. If it's looking good on the pistol line, I'll slide on down to the rifle line and see how it patterns at 50 yards.

Ive rang 18" dingers at 350+ yds with my CZ52....

I wouldn't wanna get shot at with one.


J

M. Sage
10-22-2006, 10:34 AM
Ive rang 18" dingers at 350+ yds with my CZ52....

I wouldn't wanna get shot at with one.


J

Holy crap!!

I'll try that mag swap method out, thanks. This way seems to be pretty quick, I've practiced a bit.

Doh, tried it. My over-developed mechanic's thumb muscles seem to interfere. But if I hold a spare mag in my support hand with my ring finger, facing the front of the gun, and remove one mag with the method in the pic, I can swap 'em out rather fast.

I'm planning a bit of a trigger job, but want to keep the pin interlock in place for safety purposes. I pulled the interlock out, and that little spring is really stiff. It also seemed like it was binding, since when I cut a single coil off, the trigger was 100% better. The second coil didn't make a huge difference, so I stopped there, while there was enough spring to retain and retract the firing pin.

I was talking with my friend who I'm backpacking with next week, we're bringing pistols and he said something about seeing how my "commie brick" shoots vs his "preciscion-built German tool" on the trip. I told him sure, but first, let's wrap the target in Level II Kevlar. :D

JPglee1
10-22-2006, 10:57 AM
Holy crap!!


Ive actually hit a 48" diameter rock on a hill side at over 500yds (prolly closer to 650..the laser range finder wouldn't show past 500...)with it before. We hiked up and painted the rock with yellow paint and you could clearly see the hits register with the spotting scope...

The group looked like a blind man shooting a shotgun at 500yds, but it was hitting the rock repeatably and the rock was the size of an average sedan/car door.


J

M. Sage
10-22-2006, 5:39 PM
Well, just got back from my freebie day at Chabot. :D The pistol is good, but not great.. yet. I think a lot of the problem I'm having is in the trigger. The break isn't great, I think I need to tear it apart and do some polishing. I'm sure the rest might have been me, but when I shot a 1911 for comparison, I put 5 rounds into about a 1.5" area, 4 of the holes were touching - all shooting was 15 yards. Did a lot better with that, but the trigger is way sweeter.

I'll take care of the trigger when I get back from vacation. At least it works and if I need it out in the wilds, it'll be there.

You should have seen the guy who owns the 1911. He was having fun making one big hole out of the center of his targets. And it's NOT a race gun, just a fixed-sight, 30 year-old Colt... and he was shooting the cheapest ammo Chabot had.

chiefcrash
10-23-2006, 7:43 AM
i'm driving out to arizona this weekend to visit my sister. I'm gonna stop by JG Sales to pick up my CZ-52...

luvtolean
10-23-2006, 7:48 AM
The sights on my CZ are off. My first couple of shots were totally off the paper at 7 yards. Once I figured it out, it started grouping pretty decently.

I've read that the dots on the top of the slide indicate which way the sights are off.

xenophobe
10-23-2006, 9:44 AM
That would actually be a pretty quick load on 56k... All those thumbnails are what, 4-6k each? :p

PJA
10-23-2006, 10:24 AM
It ia my understanding the "dots" are the result of hardness testing.
Pete

luvtolean
10-23-2006, 10:58 AM
It ia my understanding the "dots" are the result of hardness testing.
Pete

My post sucked, I should've taken it back.

I have read all kinds of theories...I don't know which I believe the most. Mine shoots notably low...and has 6 dots.

Having done them before, I find it really hard to believe they had to do a hardness test 6 times, or 12 times...but whatever.

We'll probably never know what they are.

VeryCoolCat
10-23-2006, 3:02 PM
These things are ancient... so of course there are things off.

theboxotruth has a arcticle about the gun and how to clean it.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu25.htm

fal_762x51
10-23-2006, 9:56 PM
Able to hit 12 inch gong at 200 yards.

M. Sage
10-23-2006, 10:10 PM
My post sucked, I should've taken it back.

I have read all kinds of theories...I don't know which I believe the most. Mine shoots notably low...and has 6 dots.

Having done them before, I find it really hard to believe they had to do a hardness test 6 times, or 12 times...but whatever.

We'll probably never know what they are.

Mine's got two dots, it looks like they're to stake the rear sight in place after an adjustment, since one is almost covering the other.

+1 to the hardness testing. Even with high controls, I've never seen it done more than once or twice on a piece.

And @ Xeno: Well, I would find it (and probably anything else) a long load on 56k. :P

luvtolean
10-23-2006, 10:38 PM
You know, I need to stop posting in your threads...I always seem to give bad info.

Anyways, I could've swore mine had six dots, but I just pulled it out, and it has 4. :o

PJA
10-24-2006, 1:52 AM
I have a set of wood grips which make the pisol even less ergonomic. I have switched back to the OEM grips.
Pete

M. Sage
10-24-2006, 6:56 AM
Ohhhh. The dots are way up by the front sight.

Three for mine, then.

milsurplover
10-24-2006, 7:34 PM
I have a set of wood grips which make the pisol even less ergonomic. I have switched back to the OEM grips.
Pete

That's good to know. What type? Prolly Hogue? I was gonna buy some for the two CZ's I bought from JG Sales in AZ. They cost about $50-55 all in so I don't want to waste the money. What part didn't feel right/ergonomic? To fat, top, lower?

Thanks

PJA
10-25-2006, 1:04 AM
I don't remember where I got them-most likely ebay. The problem is that they are bulkier and more "square" than the OEM grips. I have rather small hands, and the original grips are much more natural for me.
Pete

M. Sage
10-25-2006, 6:16 PM
Yeah, the grip seems small, but they're just narrow.

MRX9989
10-26-2006, 2:36 PM
Hey guys, this is my first post here and I have some information you might fiind useful.

Dating a CZ-52 is easy. For the manufacture date, just looked for two crossed swords and the number next to it. For instance, my CZ-52 says X54, meaning the gun was made in 1954. Additionally, most CZ-52's were rearsenaled prior to their long term storage. You can tell what year your gun was reconditioned by looking on the frame for the words "VOZ" on the slide. For instance, mine says VOZ 79, meaning that it was rearsenaled in 1979.

Regarding the dots, I've heard that they represent the number of times the gun was returned to an armorer for a repair. I don't know how true this is.

chiefcrash
10-27-2006, 4:04 PM
just picked mine up from JG Sales, pics when i get back to cali

M. Sage
11-02-2006, 7:15 PM
Hey guys, this is my first post here and I have some information you might fiind useful.

Dating a CZ-52 is easy. For the manufacture date, just looked for two crossed swords and the number next to it. For instance, my CZ-52 says X54, meaning the gun was made in 1954. Additionally, most CZ-52's were rearsenaled prior to their long term storage. You can tell what year your gun was reconditioned by looking on the frame for the words "VOZ" on the slide. For instance, mine says VOZ 79, meaning that it was rearsenaled in 1979.

Regarding the dots, I've heard that they represent the number of times the gun was returned to an armorer for a repair. I don't know how true this is.

I can't find any crossed swords on mine, which is wierd. My "VOZ" has two years after it... The first is 80, then, below and ahead is 89.

I can't see where they could have scrubbed the acceptance stamp, no grind marks or anything... What makes me wonder is the serial on the frame. The serial stamp is messy and one number is overstruck - you can see where they stamped a 4 in upside down on the first try. Completely the opposite of the neat, straight, perfect serials stamped in the slide and on the barrel.

Anyway... I took my new pistol on vactation with me, and had a chance to put about 200 rounds through it. I opened it to clean it up at the end of the camping trip and it was pretty full of sand, never gave me a single problem. I was shooting about as well as my friend who'd brought a Sig P226, maybe a bit better than the 226 at longer ranges (we shot out to about 100 yards.) Not bad, considering he's had that Sig for a long time.. and my gun cost a lot less. :P

Dunno how well it would have worked as bear medicine (eh, better than nothing!), but I felt a lot better having it hanging from a holster in the daytime and in my sleeping bag at night.

My only gripe now is the trigger is a bit... crunchy is the best word I can come up with. The break isn't all that smooth. It shoots really well regardless.