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connorr93
03-14-2011, 9:33 AM
Hey all im looking into building a super accurate .22 and need to know what is the best rifle and scope for that type of set up. I am a total .22 noob so any help is appreciated. This rifle is going to be used primarily for target shooting and maybe the occasional ground squirrel hunting

DannyInSoCal
03-14-2011, 9:43 AM
How accurate do you want it to be - At what distance?

connorr93
03-14-2011, 11:06 AM
I need it to be as accurate as possible at as far as possible. Im going to go all out of this gun i just need to know where to start.

Thefeeder
03-14-2011, 11:11 AM
Start with an Anshutz 54 action

You can look into buying an already factory made Anschutz.....check the net


http://www.gunsamerica.com/950166646/Guns/Rifles/Anschutz-Rifles/1903_Anschutz_Match_Rifle.htm
http://www.gunsamerica.com/931084451/Guns/Rifles/Anschutz-Rifles/Savage_Anschutz_Model_54M_Sporter.htm

usmcchet9296
03-14-2011, 12:13 PM
Hey all im looking into building a super accurate .22 and need to know what is the best rifle and scope for that type of set up. I am a total .22 noob so any help is appreciated. This rifle is going to be used primarily for target shooting and maybe the occasional ground squirrel hunting

Check out what people are using in the Monthly rimfire matches. They shoot out to 100 yards with scoped and iron sighted rifles all the time.

wu_dot_com
03-14-2011, 1:19 PM
I need it to be as accurate as possible at as far as possible. Im going to go all out of this gun i just need to know where to start.

does that mean there is no budget limit? bolt action or semi-auto preference?

pennys dad
03-14-2011, 1:36 PM
go to this forum http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/forumdisplay.php?f=123 and ask, you will get the answer

ryan0320
03-14-2011, 1:46 PM
First of all,
You want to go for the really nice bull barrel with the tight chamber.
My favorite is green mountain bull barrel 20"....
I did half inch three shot group at the bench from 50 yards....
my 2cents....

Ripon83
03-14-2011, 1:53 PM
Someone from San Jose keeps posting a Winchester 52 for a little less then 600, and you can add a nice scope for as much as you want....the 52 is the ""tanks" of rimfires, the DC-3 ever lasting piece - I own one and I can still hit stuff pretty good beyond a 100 yards. Its a little heavy to take hunting squirls....for that I use a 77/22 with a cheap bushnell scope...works great.

Izzy43
03-14-2011, 2:49 PM
Hey all im looking into building a super accurate .22 and need to know what is the best rifle and scope for that type of set up. I am a total .22 noob so any help is appreciated. This rifle is going to be used primarily for target shooting and maybe the occasional ground squirrel hunting

I have and use a CZ UltraLux in the monthly rimfire matches here on CG. Excellent firearm, 28" barrel, great workmanship, heavy action, nice beech stock and shoots MOA at 100yards and beyond with either aperture, iron or scope sights.

For some info on how well this rifle can shoot and the ammo used go over to RimfireCentral.com, join as a member and look up a member with a user name of William Harper. He shoots this rifle out to 300 meters and beyond with MOA results using Aguila Interceptor ammo (40 gr, 1475PFS). You will not be disappointed in this rilfe. (Bolt action by the way). Also check out the CZ forum on the same website for additional info. I have seen this rifle advertised for $375 (used), mine was $400 new + tax + shipping + DROS for a total of about $470. Don't need to change the barrel or float it or bed the action. Just add a YoDave trigger kit ($20 shipped on eBay) for a creepless, 1.5 lb trigger pull.

The other option would be a Kimber 82g (rusty model, but not rusty) from CMP for $425 shipped to your door. CMP does the background check so no DROS required. This is also a bolt action rifle, extremely accurate but single shot. Doubt you can buy a more accurate rifle for the money.

If you want a semi-automatic, can't help there. Bolt actions will be more accurate out of the box than a semi.

Quickdraw Mcgraw
03-14-2011, 2:54 PM
10/22 w/green mtn barell=best way for under $500...guess I don't really know how much more accurate you can get...you can diffinetly spend more $$ I jus don't know why...mines shoots under 1/2", an close to 1/4 at 50yds.

G-luck an be safe!

Kryptyde
03-14-2011, 3:51 PM
I'm not sure that all-out is descriptive enough...just as with most things in life, generally you get what you pay for...that being said...

General opinion seems to be these are best bets for accuracy.

For $250 a stock Ruger 10/22 (semi auto)

For $400 or so a CZ 452 (bolt action)

For $1000+ a KID custom 10/22 (semi auto)

For $1000+ Anshutz (bolt action)

Do keep in mind the limitations of .22LR ... I love it but lets be honest here...its a wimpy round that starts falling badly at only 100 yards. Not useful for hunting purposes at more than 150 yards, and thats pushing it. At longer yardage...yes you can hit things but its more like lobbing than shooting and the slightest breeze will play havoc on your accuracy.

macey109
03-14-2011, 3:57 PM
Marlin 39a- don't fix it if it isn't broken! Been in my family for 5 decades and NEVER ceases to impress.

bombadillo
03-14-2011, 4:20 PM
Savage MKII-BTVS would probably do you well. Its around $350-450 at various places, nice stock, free floated bull barrel, ready to put a scope on, and stainless so no rust problems. Very accurate little guns and will be good out past 100 if you're consistent. It also has a great trigger from the box.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/43/43580.jpg

SOcal
03-14-2011, 4:26 PM
KIDD custom 10/22 and dont look back. Easy sub-moa at 100 with good ammo and a good driver.

Bearclaw
03-15-2011, 7:11 PM
Doesn't .22LR and Long Range in the same sentence create an oxymoron???
:43:

Kilenger
03-16-2011, 1:29 PM
+1 on the Savage MKII-BTVS for a bolt action. For a semi auto, Volquartsen makes one of the best rim fires on the market with dozens of options for barrels, stocks, and finishes. It also uses standard ruger 10/22 magazines. Check their sight for options. https://www.volquartsen.com/category/20-rimfire-rifles/1-all

Viper49
03-16-2011, 2:06 PM
My two cents is stay with bolt action if you want accuracy and long range.;)

SOcal
03-16-2011, 2:16 PM
My two cents is stay with bolt action if you want accuracy and long range.;)

If we were talking about centerfires I might agree with this, but for the most part, the limiting factor with rimfires is the ammunition itself... you are at the mercy of the manufacturer to provide consistent ammo. Sure, there is "match" ammo like the SK, Wolf, FGMM, etc.... but you pay darned near centerfire prices for it and is still not what precision loaded centerfire ammo is.

Both of my 22's (a full KIDD rifle and a Ruger with a KIDD lightweight barrel) will shoot better than I can, providint consistent groups in the 1's and 2's at 50 yards and right around .750" 5 shot groups at 100. You maaaaay see slightly better groups out of something like an Anshutz but you will pay top dollar for it and loose that oh so fun semi auto, lead slinging ability.

I shoot LR rifle out to 900 with my 308 and have found that the .22 is a great training tool. Scale down your targets and place them out to 150 or 200 if you have nice conditions. On a nice day with good ammo, you will be surprised how well a .22 hangs at 200 yards!!! Once you know your drops and have the wind dialed, it is a very doable thing.

YMMV!

SOCAL

Iggy
03-16-2011, 2:18 PM
http://iggycorp.com/gun/bignlittle2.jpg

The rifle below is a Sako Quad, and it shoots like a dream. Very accurate and I have shot out to 300yards with it.

Izzy43
03-16-2011, 3:17 PM
http://iggycorp.com/gun/bignlittle2.jpg

The rifle below is a Sako Quad, and it shoots like a dream. Very accurate and I have shot out to 300yards with it.

Nice rifles.

Dion
03-16-2011, 5:15 PM
I need it to be as accurate as possible at as far as possible. Im going to go all out of this gun i just need to know where to start.

Poor squirells. ;)

RickyB
03-16-2011, 6:00 PM
Poor squirells. ;)

Hopefully he'll only shoot the blue ones.......

dg29
03-16-2011, 6:05 PM
Please go to this link and check out the chart. Long distance and .22 lr do not really go together. http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98330

Justintoxicated
03-16-2011, 6:10 PM
any one that ends in a 3 as in .223 :)

bombadillo
03-16-2011, 8:22 PM
http://iggycorp.com/gun/bignlittle2.jpg

The rifle below is a Sako Quad, and it shoots like a dream. Very accurate and I have shot out to 300yards with it.

I am in love with those two Sako rifles. Really nice firearms man. Props to you for quality taste.

RickyB
03-16-2011, 8:29 PM
Have you thought of a .22 WMR? A bit more speed and a few more yards......

hntnnut
03-16-2011, 9:54 PM
You might look for a remington 541T

Richard

Quickdraw Mcgraw
03-17-2011, 1:58 PM
Yo Iggy props dude those rifles are PHAT! Where do I get one of those Sakos?

CSACANNONEER
03-17-2011, 2:05 PM
First of all,
You want to go for the really nice bull barrel with the tight chamber.
My favorite is green mountain bull barrel 20"....
I did half inch three shot group at the bench from 50 yards....
my 2cents....

That's only 1moa of precision. A decent gun, ammo and shooter should be able to cut your groups down by 50% or more.

any one that ends in a 3 as in .223 :)

Wrong, 22-250 does't end in "3".

Iggy
03-17-2011, 3:02 PM
Sako's are hard to find now. Try gunbroker or gunsamerica. I think they run around $700 if you can find one.

morrcarr67
03-17-2011, 3:58 PM
Have you thought of a .22 WMR? A bit more speed and a few more yards......

or .17HMR?

thomashoward
03-17-2011, 4:33 PM
Doesn't .22LR and Long Range in the same sentence create an oxymoron???
:43:
yup, how long range can a 100yd max rifle be. I know the box says it will carry into the next county but only by accident.
I t will punch paper if adequately compensated for drop. but will not flip a squirrel at 100

CSACANNONEER
03-17-2011, 5:50 PM
yup, how long range can a 100yd max rifle be. I know the box says it will carry into the next county but only by accident.

Back in the late 80's, a few of us started playing around at a private silloutte club I belonged to. We started shooting at the high power chickens at 200 meters. Once we figured out our hold over, we could consistantly hit them with our .22lrs on a wobbly bench.

I've heard that shooting .22lrs at 100 yards is great training for shooting centerfire at 1000 yards.

five.five-six
03-17-2011, 6:08 PM
http://www.gunsmoke.com/guns/1022/images/22hv_plot.gif

pl408
03-17-2011, 7:21 PM
Sako's are hard to find now. Try gunbroker or gunsamerica. I think they run around $700 if you can find one.

I have one for sale
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=407578

Make an offer worst I can say is no

pl408
03-17-2011, 7:27 PM
http://iggycorp.com/gun/bignlittle2.jpg

The rifle below is a Sako Quad, and it shoots like a dream. Very accurate and I have shot out to 300yards with it.

Nice builds
Manners?
what cheek rest are those?

Iggy
03-17-2011, 7:34 PM
Both are Manners T4's and DYI XLR cheek rests. I have a post about them somewhere.

Mr. Burns
03-17-2011, 7:38 PM
I have a Savage BRJ with a BSA Sweet .22 scope that I have shot out to 305yds with consistency using bulk ammo.

I would recommend this rifle.

barrym66
03-24-2011, 8:16 PM
Haven't heard many mentions of the Ruger 77/22 ...I have a Clark Custom version, aka "Cruger". I think the only Ruger parts on it are the bolt (reworked) and misc. small parts! http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/7722con.htm

Not cheap, but dead accurate and these have won many championships in the hands of skilled shooters. I have a Nikon Monarch scope on mine, using Eley/Wolf match ammo I have shot sub-MOA at 100yds and have knocked down steel squirrel and pig silhouettes (6" x 10" typically) out to 200yds (with some hold-over, as you run out of elevation adjustment on the scope!).

Finding the ammo your specific gun likes is the key to accuracy with 22's.

As mentioned, CZ's are great - I had a CZ 452 Lux that I bought (without scope) on Gunbroker for $375 4 years ago, using the same Nikon scope I think it was as accurate as the Cruger, and less sensitive to ammo type. I sold it to help pay for the 77/22, but if I had it to do over I would have kept it, saved the extra $800, and bought an Anschutz. :)

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab307/dbarrym/Barrys%20Firearms/343.jpg

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab307/dbarrym/Barrys%20Firearms/348.jpg