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JHC
10-15-2006, 8:19 AM
Does anyone know if the Saiga 12 can have it's gas system disabled making it pump action like some guys are doing with AKs?

Hopi
10-15-2006, 9:00 AM
I think that it would operate more like a straight-pull bolt action rather than a pump gun. Would that allow the use of detachable mags in a shotgun platform?


ETA: This looks like 18" right?:D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v506/DrugRunR/Saiga/DSC05554.jpg

JHC
10-15-2006, 9:15 AM
That's what I was thinking, since it would require you to pull the bolt back for each shot similar to having to pump for each shot it should be legal. Anybody else know?

JHC
10-15-2006, 9:19 AM
Oooh, that one is evil looking, I personally would like this one though.
http://www.raacfirearms.com/Saiga_12.htm

Hopi
10-15-2006, 9:32 AM
Effective January 1, 2000, the definition of "assault weapon" also includes any of the following:

(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following: (A) A folding or telescoping stock. (B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip. (7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine. (8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.


I think we are good to go on a gas-disabled straight-pull bolt action Saiga 12....

blkA4alb
10-15-2006, 11:40 AM
A pump action (non semiauto) can have basically anything you want (must be 26" and have an 18" barrel.) The Saiga would be legal if it was not semiauto.

jessegpresley
10-15-2006, 2:21 PM
Would that allow the use of detachable mags in a shotgun platform?

If you want detachable mags, get the Valtro PM-5.

http://www.valtrousa.com/shotgunphotos/pm5/pm5withfoldingstocklarge.jpg

JHC
10-15-2006, 3:28 PM
The Saiga is much sexier than the Valtro, and easier to find as well.

dwtt
10-15-2006, 7:12 PM
Anyone know how much a 10-round magazine costs for the Saiga? It would make reloading much faster and easier than the tube magazine on a 870.