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blkA4alb
10-12-2006, 07:00 PM
An FFL at the gunrange I go to and I were in a discussion regarding the registering of handguns. He has said that if the handgun was inherited from an estate or similar matter that the handgun does not have to be registered.

I believe that all handguns must be registered except for antiques (before 189*)?

Also is a HSC required to come into possession of a handgun when transferred from a direct parent? I thought it was, but from furthur reading it sounds like it is not actually required but if you are stopped it may be requested.

Thanks for any responses on this, I'm about to leave for the range now and will check this thread when I get there :D .

capitol
10-12-2006, 07:03 PM
From the CA DOJ web site
Can I give a firearm to my adult child? Can he/she give it back to me later?

Yes, as long as the adult child receiving the firearm is not in a prohibited category [PDF 10 kb / 1 pg] and the firearm is a legal firearm to possess, the transfer of a firearm between a parent and child or a grandparent and grandchild is exempt from the dealer transfer requirement. However, if the firearm is a handgun, you must submit an Report of Operation of Law or Intra-Familial Handgun Transaction [PDF 481 kb / 2 pg] and $19 fee to the DOJ within 30 days. Assault weapons may not be transferred in this fashion. See Penal Code section 12285, subdivision

Hope this helps

xenophobe
10-12-2006, 07:47 PM
Thanks for any responses on this, I'm about to leave for the range now and will check this thread when I get there :D .

You have internet access at the range?


You showoff! :p

blkA4alb
10-12-2006, 09:06 PM
You have internet access at the range?


You showoff! :p
Yessum :D . I'm a "behind the counter customer", the two registers (computers) have high speed internet. Works for me :cool: .

railroader
10-12-2006, 09:30 PM
Handguns purchased say 20 years ago wouldn't be registered especially ones from private party transfers. Didn't registration start in 1991 so handguns purchased prior to that would't be registered unless the owner did it voluntarily? Where does it say those handguns need to registered? Inherited handguns is a different matter. Mark

bwiese
10-12-2006, 10:09 PM
Handguns purchased say 20 years ago wouldn't be registered especially ones from private party transfers. Didn't registration start in 1991 so handguns purchased prior to that would't be registered unless the owner did it voluntarily? Where does it say those handguns need to registered? Inherited handguns is a different matter. Mark

Jan 1 1991 is when essentially all gun purchases needed paperwork.

Before that date, 'private party transfers' were paper-free, and long guns had no waiting period. Handguns required a 15 day wait, but this then changed to a 10 day wait.

Beginning in 1998, folks moving into CA with handguns have 60 days to regsiter their handguns with DOJ as a 'personal handgun importer'.

blkA4alb
10-12-2006, 10:20 PM
So Bill, to clarify, handguns owned before the registration requirements did not and do not have to be registered?

bwiese
10-12-2006, 10:32 PM
So Bill, to clarify, handguns owned before the registration requirements did not and do not have to be registered?

There is no requirement to register a handgun that was acquired legally, unless you moved with it into CA on or after Jan 1, 1998. [I'm not sure about if you got it via interfamilial transfer in the 90s if you do have to paper it...]

I've got lotsa unpapered guns.

However, if you are popped for CCW and the gun has not been DROSed to you (which includes voluntary registration) the CCW charge, a 'wobbler', may well be charged as a felony. Illegal CCW of a handgun DROSed to you, with no other 'issues' (assault, drugs, etc.) surrounding the arrest generally results in misdemanor charges.

Outlaw Josey Wales
10-13-2006, 12:50 AM
I've got lotsa unpapered guns.



Shhhh. The Gestapo in Sacramento may be reading this! :(

kantstudien
10-13-2006, 01:39 AM
You also cannot put a "unregistered" handgun on your CCW permit should you be lucky enough to possess one. DROS = "registration" for all intensive purposes (at least handgun-wise)

Dump1567
10-13-2006, 10:53 AM
From DOJ FAQ:

How do I know if my firearms need to be registered?

There is no firearm registration requirement in California except for assault weapon owners and personal handgun importers. However, you may submit a Firearm Ownership Record to the DOJ for any firearm you own. Having a Firearm Ownership Record on file with the DOJ may help in the return of your firearm if it is lost or stolen. With very few and specific exceptions, all firearm transactions must be conducted through a firearms dealer.