Eagle Arms AR-10 .308

[RJ Dunn]

I know this has been talked about,but has anyone wrote DOJ, AM or IC about the legality of buying this receiver. What I want to know is what they say about it. I know it says armalite on it, Jeep is a division of the chevrolet co, that does'nt make a jeep a chevy. If anybodys gone this route already please let me know. I'm desperate for a AR .308. And don't think RRA will ever sell their .308 stripped receiver. Hope i'm wrong.

I want to have a letter that say's noway jose , so I can get this sick dream out of my head.

[krim]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=39974&highlight=eagle+ar-10

[bwiese]

No go.

It's already been approved accidentally then rejected - some receivers orders had to be cancelled. I knew this would happen.

Eagle Arms really is Armalite - same address, Type 7 FFL, etc. Eagle Arms is just a marketing name so that loose receivers built into parts guns or lower-grade Eagle guns cannot compete against factory-assembled/tested top-tier Armalite rifles.

So these really are Armalte AR10s that just have an additional Eagle logo/text. If they didn't have 'Armalite' marked on them you might have a chance. If they didn't have AR10 on them you'd definitely be good to go.

Your only real CA-legal 308 AR option is to get a Vulcan/Hesse 308 receiver. They do work - lose the DPMS mag, replace with a 10rd fixed Armalite mag with shims on the sides (mag well is wider one these and DPMS than Armalite) and an Armalite upper will work just fine.

The later Vulcan/hesse 308 AR receivers appear to have reasonable fit/finish.

[luvtolean]

Man, I saw one on the 10% table over the weekend and was reaching for my Visa until I saw the "LE Only" on the other side of the tag. :o

I'm sure CWS will be able to get any of us that want a RRA rifle one. But it will probably be the complete, Kalifornicated deal like you say, and not a lower.

[EBWhite]

You can get the older eagle ar-10 if it does not have the armalite rollstamp on it. They are floating around. Check gunbroker,etc... arf too

[RJ Dunn]

Your only real CA-legal 308 AR option is to get a Vulcan/Hesse 308 receiver.


I've searched everywhere for 1 of these. I've e-mail Vulcan about a half dozen times. They won't reply.

I can't afford a complete rifle now I just want to secure a lower for a future build. before it's to late.

[grammaton76]

I've searched everywhere for 1 of these. I've e-mail Vulcan about a half dozen times. They won't reply.

That's because they think you're a Romulan agent. Sorry, couldn't resist.

[bwiese]

You can get the older eagle ar-10 if it does not have the armalite rollstamp on it. They are floating around. Check gunbroker,etc... arf too

Hmmm, that's a bit dangerous.

And I won't argue that you can't get one, or that someone won't sell one to you, but no sane person should buy one.

Esp after what the DOJ did with Wilson Tactical vs Wilson Combat - and those two companies were completely separate - different addresses, different owners (though related), different Type 7 FFL, etc.

[50 Freak]

Call Vulcan, don't e-mail them. They aren't really known for checking their e-mails.

[EBWhite]

BW- Correct me if im wrong but I believe at one time (pre armalite rollstamp), eagle arms was a seperate company under a seperate ffl.....

That is what i heard, but im not 100% sure, correct me again if im wrong!

[RJ Dunn]

Romulan agent? At first I thought "what the hell is he talking about". So, I did a search and I get it now funny funny funny not!!!! Just kidding gramm.

[EBWhite]

RJ- contact Vulcan by phone to get one. The magwell is sloppy and unless your deadset on a AR .308 or have preban mags for it, don't bother yet. Get an m1a or garand instead... JMO...

[bwiese]

BW- Correct me if im wrong but I believe at one time (pre armalite rollstamp), eagle arms was a seperate company under a seperate ffl.....


Years and years ago, prob very very very early 90s.

Thinking back, I don't think there were ANY 308 AR10s from a standalone Eagle Arms.

[bwiese]

RJ- contact Vulcan by phone to get one. The magwell is sloppy and unless your deadset on a AR .308 or have preban mags for it, don't bother yet. Get an m1a or garand instead... JMO...

The magwell is not sloppy with appropriate shimming.

These magwells were designed for the wider DPMS mag (+ DPMS upper).

You're bettah off using Armalite hardware though. Simple shims on each side will not muck w/reliability and will stop Armalite mag wiggle within the well... and then you can use a top-notch Armalite upper.

[50BMGBOB]

I saw one on consignment this week in Antioch. That is where I got mine. I just got my upper and I'm still working on the feeding issue. My AR10 mags are on back order so tonite I'm shimming a M1A1 mag to play with until they get here. 2 dummy rounds and 8 live until I get my mags.

[bwiese]

I saw one on consignment this week in Antioch. That is where I got mine. I just got my upper and I'm still working on the feeding issue. My AR10 mags are on back order so tonite I'm shimming a M1A1 mag to play with until they get here. 2 dummy rounds and 8 live until I get my mags.

Are you using a quality M1A mag? Have you tried real Springfield Armory mags? You might be able to borrow one or two. There's a lot of crap M1A mags out there from USA & ProMag.

Are you shimming the mags in the magwell?

Are you using an Armalite upper, and is your bolt + carrier well lubricated?

[EBWhite]

How are you guys shimming the mags? I prefer using detachable mags without any evil features.

[MysteryCereal]

Jeep is a division of the chevrolet co, that does'nt make a jeep a chevy.


I thought it was DaimlerChrysler. Hehe :)

[bwiese]

How are you guys shimming the mags? I prefer using detachable mags without any evil features.

I dunno how folks are doing it, but just measure the diff btwn the width of the DPMS mag and an Armalite mag, divide by two, and put shim material in.

You could either put it on the sides of the magazine, or line the sides of the mag well (say, attached w/epoxy).

[EBWhite]

I'm thinking that aluminum low heat welding stuff of that epoxy at the bottom sides of the magwell and shave to fit.

[50BMGBOB]

All my mags are Springfield mag's (for my M25) I have 2 DPMS mags that don't feed right and 2 Armalite mags on back order. Tonite I JB welded a shim on each side of a springfield mag to see if I can get it to work. My next range trip is Monday. But sense this is the legal form, maybe we should start a new thread in the rifle form.

Like I said earlier, if you are still looking for a 308 receiver, there is one on consignment in Antioch, I think it was $375 striped. I did hold it to my upper when it came in (didn't get it shipped to the house) and it appeared to line up with the pin holes. I know mine did as I have fired mine.

[RJ Dunn]

I thought it was DaimlerChrysler. Hehe :)


You know what I was getting at.Wiseguy lol

[pc_city]

How are you guys shimming the mags? I prefer using detachable mags without any evil features.

I glued .125 O.D. stainless tubing into the grooves in the side of the mag with Loctite 380 (Black Max).
http://members.aol.com/riveter/ar10mag.jpg

[50BMGBOB]

I like it! I may have to try it.

[azn_wrx]

I thought it was DaimlerChrysler. Hehe :)

Off topic but it was Chrysler. Jeep was a division of American Motors until they were bought out.

[artherd]

I know this has been talked about,but has anyone wrote DOJ, AM or IC about the legality of buying this receiver. What I want to know is what they say about it. I know it says armalite on it, Jeep is a division of the chevrolet co, that does'nt make a jeep a chevy. If anybodys gone this route already please let me know. I'm desperate for a AR .308. And don't think RRA will ever sell their .308 stripped receiver. Hope i'm wrong.

I want to have a letter that say's noway jose , so I can get this sick dream out of my head.
Actually, Jeep is a div of DialmerChrysler, and Chevrolet is a div of General Motors Corporation.

Now, both Chevrolet and Buick are divs of General Motors Corporation, so maybe that's what you're getting at...

However, both a Jeep and a Buick are indeed General Motors vehicles, the only difference is in marketing.

Sorry but even under Harrott the Eagle is not protected ;(

DOJ has written that they do consider an "Armalite" "AR-10" with an "Eagle Arms" monkier, to be an "Armalite AR-10" and a banned-by-name assault weapon.