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USMCALLEN
02-22-2011, 10:40 AM
So I've been having this problem where I try to lock the bolt back and for some reason the it keeps sliding forward. Could it be the bolt catch wearing down? It locks back with an empty mag but with out one it doesn't. Anyone know what might be wrong?

Yemff
02-22-2011, 10:43 AM
Maybe im wrong but I think it will only lock back with either an empty mag, or if you pull on the bolt catch while the bolt is back?

Nathan Krynn
02-22-2011, 10:59 AM
Are you pressing on the bottom of the bolt catch when the charging handle is all the way back?

The Director
02-22-2011, 11:11 AM
^ what I was going to suggest

Sky_DiveR
02-22-2011, 11:33 AM
I would hope that he knows how to do that with USMC in his username and 1 Battalion, 5th Marines in his sig line (which he misspelled btw)

razorscs
02-22-2011, 11:39 AM
I am just going to say this, as a Corporal in the Marine Corps and a multiple award Expert Rifleman I would pray that he knows to press the bottom of the bolt catch when pulling the bolt back to lock it to the rear. But, I don't see why else it would be locking to the rear with an empty mag and not locking to the rear without one unless the button wasn't being pressed...

razorscs
02-22-2011, 11:40 AM
I would hope that he knows how to do that with USMC in his username and 1 Battalion, 5th Marines in his sig line (which he misspelled btw)

Beat me to it. But yes x2. Actually, x9999080392

shadowofnight
02-22-2011, 11:42 AM
It locks back with an empty mag but with out one it doesn't.

Same physical piece of steel holds the bolt open , either pushed up by the mag follower or your finger...so wear of the part is not an issue. If it works by the follower, by default a finger push would work as well


Second thread on this ? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=220369

sniper4usmc
02-22-2011, 11:54 AM
weak bolt catch spring?

you did installed bolt catch spring right?

razorscs
02-22-2011, 11:58 AM
weak bolt catch spring?

you did installed bolt catch spring right?

That shouldn't have anything to do with it, all that does is return it into the unlocked position when the pressure from the bolt is removed.

shadowofnight
02-22-2011, 12:00 PM
weak bolt catch spirng?


The spring is irrelevant when using your finger to push on the bottom of the bolt release, besides the spring holds the release down and out of the way until the mag follower and it's huge spring overcome that tiny spring.


What I dont understand is why his thread back in 2009 http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=220369 wasnt sufficient ??? His question was answered perfectly back then already ??

Merc1138
02-22-2011, 12:02 PM
Second thread on this ? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=220369

Maybe we're all caught in some sort of crazy temporal vortex and to us it only appears that there's two threads about the exact same thing, posted by the same person, that people have replied to? Or maybe it's like the end of back to the future when Marty got back to the parking lot and saw Doc get shot and watched himself running from the Libyans and heading back to the past, only to walk over and find out the Doc had a bullet proof vest that time?

As other people have mentioned, even without the bolt catch spring, the pressure of the bolt against the catch will keep it back. The spring is only there to keep the catch down and out of the way unless you intentionally manipulate it(or the magazine follower hits it).

GP3
02-22-2011, 12:06 PM
Anyone know what might be wrong?

Your rifle training.

Press the bottom of the bolt release while pulling the charge handle rear-ward.

shadowofnight
02-22-2011, 12:10 PM
Maybe we're all caught in some sort of crazy temporal vortex and to us it only appears that there's two threads about the exact same thing, posted by the same person, that people have replied to? Or maybe it's like the end of back to the future when Marty got back to the parking lot and saw Doc get shot and watched himself running from the Libyans and heading back to the past, only to walk over and find out the Doc had a bullet proof vest that time?


Yeah, that could be it :D

As other people have mentioned, even without the bolt catch spring, the pressure of the bolt against the catch will keep it back. The spring is only there to keep the catch down and out of the way unless you intentionally manipulate it(or the magazine follower hits it)


Exactly.


Twilight zone......

Sky_DiveR
02-22-2011, 12:11 PM
Your rifle training.

Press the bottom of the bolt release while pulling the charge handle rear-ward.

:rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:

razorscs
02-22-2011, 12:15 PM
Your rifle training.

Press the bottom of the bolt release while pulling the charge handle rear-ward.

If this is the case, this guy is not a Marine. There is no way in hell it's possible...
(this coming from a Marine)

Heavy_Grinder
02-22-2011, 1:02 PM
http://www.thefacepalm.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/005-Sisko.gif

RONIN.
02-22-2011, 3:22 PM
http://www.thefacepalm.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/005-Sisko.gif

lmao

21SF
02-22-2011, 3:51 PM
Let me guess....never to be heard from again?

Maybe next year, same time same topic?

shark92651
02-22-2011, 4:15 PM
This is bizarre, same member posts the same question 1.5 years apart, never to respond to the replies. I think we have an alien abduction and lost of time situation on our hands :D

Reductio
02-22-2011, 4:21 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=400214

:willy_nilly::willy_nilly::willy_nilly:

The Director
02-22-2011, 4:47 PM
This is bizarre, same member posts the same question 1.5 years apart, never to respond to the replies. I think we have an alien abduction and lost of time situation on our hands :D

And a highly decorated marine at that. One that apparently was not paying attention at M4 PMI classes.

jeff762
02-22-2011, 4:58 PM
And a highly decorated marine at that. One that apparently was not paying attention at M4 PMI classes.

or during manual of arms in boot camp. INSPECTION ARMS!

Cato
02-22-2011, 5:15 PM
Maybe the dude's name is U.S. McAllen? Like Ulyses Seymore McAllen

Sky_DiveR
02-22-2011, 10:33 PM
Maybe the dude's name is U.S. McAllen? Like Ulyses Seymore McAllen

Nope... see the 2nd to last line of post #1.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=217387

danger707
02-22-2011, 10:49 PM
this is the funniest thread ever

Anchors
02-22-2011, 10:57 PM
This thread is WEIRD. No one would troll for over a year.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=400214

:willy_nilly::willy_nilly::willy_nilly:

:TFH: !!! haha.

And a highly decorated marine at that. One that apparently was not paying attention at M4 PMI classes.

Is that a Purple Heart in his sig?
It is possible that he served a LONG time ago and is getting back into firearms.
Or that he was fresh out of boot camp and got medically retired after his injury.
The thing is, it seems like that if he has a Purple Heart he would have seen combat and in that case probably would have had to know everything a guy should know about an AR.

Droppin Deuces
02-22-2011, 11:09 PM
I think our collective chains are being yanked.

Donk310
02-22-2011, 11:52 PM
If this is the case, this guy is not a Marine. There is no way in hell it's possible...
(this coming from a Marine)


Ditto.

NiteQwill
02-23-2011, 12:01 AM
My selector lever doesn't go to safe when I fire off my last round or when I send the hammer forward. Does anyone know why?




;)

RONIN.
02-23-2011, 12:12 AM
My selector lever doesn't go to safe when I fire off my last round or when I send the hammer forward. Does anyone know why?




;)

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

USMCALLEN
02-23-2011, 3:15 PM
Hahaha common now guys. Ok here's the deal I press the bolt catch and pull the bolt the the rear. The bolt catch doesn't seem to be catching unless I pull it from the top to fully have it catch. I use to be able to press the usualy bottom part of the bolt catch. It seems like its either warn out or the spring has to much tension. I'm using colt lower parts kit. With empty mag it locks back just fine. Any ideas? Yes I did miss spell 1st thanks for catching it.

Medic451
02-23-2011, 3:28 PM
Hahaha common now guys. Ok here's the deal I press the bolt catch and pull the bolt the the rear. The bolt catch doesn't seem to be catching unless I pull it from the top to fully have it catch. I use to be able to press the usualy bottom part of the bolt catch. It seems like its either warn out or the spring has to much tension. I'm using colt lower parts kit. With empty mag it locks back just fine. Any ideas? Yes I did miss spell 1st thanks for catching it.

Don't forget Battalion....., cant help you with your AR problem though, sorry.

shark92651
02-23-2011, 3:38 PM
Well if they are worn then just swap out your bolt catch parts - pick up these four parts. Total cost $9.50

http://riflegear.com/p-300-bolt-catch.aspx
http://riflegear.com/p-298-bolt-catch-buffer.aspx
http://riflegear.com/p-297-bolt-catch-spring.aspx
http://riflegear.com/p-299-bolt-catch-roll-pin.aspx

Bentot
02-23-2011, 3:46 PM
And don't forget Riflegear Lower Receiver Builders Kit for 44.99 ;)

UBFRAGD
02-23-2011, 7:19 PM
I hope no one posts the youtube video of the 8-yr old field stripping an AR in seconds. Embarrasment like that serves no distinct purpose.

gemini1
02-23-2011, 7:31 PM
Hahaha common now guys. Ok here's the deal I press the bolt catch and pull the bolt the the rear. The bolt catch doesn't seem to be catching unless I pull it from the top to fully have it catch. I use to be able to press the usualy bottom part of the bolt catch. It seems like its either warn out or the spring has to much tension. I'm using colt lower parts kit. With empty mag it locks back just fine. Any ideas? Yes I did miss spell 1st thanks for catching it.

Let me see if I understood what you said. Your pressing the bottom part of the bolt catch and then pulling the charging handle all the way to the rear and it wont lock the bolt unless you pull the bolt catch from the top? and with an empty mag you are able to lock the bolt?
This does not make sense to me at all. Are you saying the mag spring has more power than your finger to push the bolt catch to lock the bolt?
The bolt catch can only go so far regardless of pushing it at the bottom or pulling it at the top. Try taking your upper off and push the bolt catch at the bottom, then pull it at the top and tell me if there's still room to give when you pull it?

ir0nclash86
02-23-2011, 8:14 PM
Dude if you're serious and not joking around, you're going to have to take pictures of your bolt catch so we can get an idea of what you're talking about. Even better make a short video of the problem.

razorscs
02-23-2011, 9:06 PM
Hahaha common now guys...

No, you come on guy. I don't think I really understand how on earth you could not know what you are doing with a freaking bolt catch if you served in the Marine Corps, especially when in this thread Click Me (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=176420) you say that you were in the initial push into Iraq. Btw, it's spelled Baghdad not "bagdhad," and I honestly don't understand how you don't know the correct spelling after being over there.

I know this is off topic y'all, but anyone else a little suspicious? I'm not calling BS but-----wait, actually I guess am, even the guys in the thread I posted were calling it on his story. If you really are a Marine, I apologize, but people that claim to have served who haven't REALLY piss me off, I mean you've got what appears to be a Purple Heart and CAR in your sig, so let's hope you aren't making that crap up. Rant off. If I'm wrong, consider this directed at those that are playing pretend.