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FailedAngrMgmt
02-22-2011, 12:30 AM
anyone know any shops in the LA/OC area that have them?

nrakid88
02-22-2011, 12:32 AM
UH.... colts are on the list...

Toast
02-22-2011, 12:44 AM
You mean like this? :43:
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8008/unobtanium.jpg
Unobtanium from the SWAT competition in SJ a while back

Lrchops
02-22-2011, 12:54 AM
They are only available to law enforcement. IT is definately one of the finest rifles available! I carry one.

speeedracerr
02-22-2011, 1:28 AM
Last time I checked... CWS had them at the gun shows. They are pretty hard to find these days :(

JeffM
02-22-2011, 1:38 AM
UH.... colts are on the list...

*most* Colts are on the list. The 6940 is not. The 6724 is not listed either.

OP, you want to play with one or buy one?

I don't know of any shops that have Colts that can be rented. The shops that sell them, well, have them for people to buy not fondle.

thevic
02-22-2011, 1:49 AM
Where can i buy?

speeedracerr
02-22-2011, 2:05 AM
Where can i buy?

If you check the private firearms section, I believe this user is selling:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=368691

duc748bip
02-22-2011, 2:08 AM
Unless you can feel the stamped model number blind folded. Any AR will 'fondle' the same. :D

FailedAngrMgmt
02-22-2011, 2:42 AM
i want to fondle it at a local gun shop...fondling always makes it easier to swipe that credit card, i thought you guys knew this :rolleyes: ...i bought my cmmg from cws at the gun show, the sucky part was driving all the way out to highland to pick it up, i had to sit in traffic. :banghead:

speeedracerr
02-22-2011, 2:53 AM
i want to fondle it at a local gun shop...fondling always makes it easier to swipe that credit card, i thought you guys knew this :rolleyes: ...i bought my cmmg from cws at the gun show, the sucky part was driving all the way out to highland to pick it up, i had to sit in traffic. :banghead:

I love the Colt LE6940 but I gotta admit that are definitely pricey! But... guess that goes with the territory when you want the best. I just bought a 6940 upper for $1000. A complete rifle may cost near the 2k out the door.

FailedAngrMgmt
02-22-2011, 3:01 AM
ouch...when i was searching the forums and googling it, apparently there is no MSRP set by colt, and the dealer price is somewhere around $1300. multiple people were posting on other forums that they were getting their 6940s for $1450 new. i can hold off to find a decent price.

speeedracerr
02-22-2011, 3:07 AM
I remember CWS were selling it for something like $1799 when they had them... Guess it depends on the dealer you go with. I got the 6940 upper since I had an extra lower but didn't want to pay an additional $500+ for the complete rifle.

FailedAngrMgmt
02-22-2011, 3:23 AM
it looks like cws went out of business...kind of, no more store front, only selling accessories on the interwebs.

ZNinerFan
02-22-2011, 5:09 AM
There is no reason why you can't get any of the Colt upper's as long as you slap it onto an OLL. To me the upper is where you want the Colt quality as any milspec lower should be fine.

Now getting a Colt upper without the banned by name lower is where it can get difficult, but they should still be out there if you look.

shooterdave
02-22-2011, 10:15 AM
ammo bros usually has one in stock. other than that i don't know any other place that carries them.

FailedAngrMgmt
02-22-2011, 3:55 PM
i called ammo bros today, they are out, and they said the distribution place they order from is out as well. no eta.

Sundowner
02-22-2011, 5:32 PM
http://fidelisfirearms.com/colt/

tiger222
02-22-2011, 5:58 PM
http://fidelisfirearms.com/colt/

nice price for a 6940 upper.

glocklover
02-22-2011, 8:51 PM
For that price, you can build a rifle, with better or the same quality components, and still have money left over. I wanted a "colt" complete at one time, but, I realized, it really isn't that serious. Plus, you'd have WAY more of a custom weapon than just a standard AR, you'll understand how the weapon works if you build it yourself.

atomicwedgy
02-22-2011, 9:13 PM
crazy newb question, but please entertain.

what is the difference between a 6920 and 6940 besides the list?

speeedracerr
02-22-2011, 9:32 PM
crazy newb question, but please entertain.

what is the difference between a 6920 and 6940 besides the list?

6940 is the NEWER colt with the monolithic upper receiver.

1911su16b870
02-22-2011, 9:43 PM
The irony of the AW roster and banned by name firearms is that they have some Colt product names and some models.

From Colts commercial and LE Web Sites:

AR-15A2 Government Carbine AR6520 (CA banned by Roberti-Roos "AR")
AR-15A3 Tactical Carbine AR6721 (CA banned by Roberti-Roos "AR")
Law Enforcement Carbine LE6920 (CA banned by series "AR" - Law Enforcement (6920))
Law Enforcement Carbine LE6921 (14.5-in barrel, NFA SBR)
Law Enforcement Carbine LE6940 (Colt Monolithic Upper)
M4 Carbine RO977 (NFA item- safe, semi, auto)
Colt Accurized Rifle CR6720
Colt Accurized Rifle CR6724
Match Target MT6400, MT6400R, MT6700, MT6700, MT 6731 (CA banned by series "AR" - Match Target (all))

The older Colt SP rifles are CA banned by series "AR" - Sporter (all)

ETA: Colt's 2011 catalog shows three Sporter models SP6920, SP6940 which mimic the LE series, and the new SP901 in 308...banned by "AR" series Sporter (all).

Now the roll marks on each rifle need to be compared to the above names and model numbers. i.e. It has been posted that the Law Enforcment models have the same roll marks and that the Colt Accurized Rifle roll marks are CAR.

Lastly, Bill has written that the safest play, if you must have a Colt, is to buy one of the many OLLs and add Colt upper of your choice. Patience will be rewarded.

atomicwedgy
02-22-2011, 10:10 PM
so what im not understanding is, if i am able to purchase a 6940 from a FFL then how is there even a remote chance I will get into legal trouble with that rifle? thank you for the clarification

1911su16b870
02-22-2011, 10:40 PM
Letter of the Law is "Law Enforcement (6920)" banned. The roll mark on the lower only has "Colt's Law Enforcement Carbine" for both the 6920 and 6940 (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=5861229&postcount=34) and therein lies the problem. You have to articulate (and probably prove with documentation) that it is a "Law Enforcement (6940)" and not banned by series.

FailedAngrMgmt
02-22-2011, 11:12 PM
just keep a copy of DROS paperwork and the sales receipt with you showing the model and serial number and your name/address. im sure having the colt product pamphlet for the 6940 in your rifle bag wouldn't hurt either.

snoopy
02-22-2011, 11:32 PM
so what im not understanding is, if i am able to purchase a 6940 from a FFL then how is there even a remote chance I will get into legal trouble with that rifle? thank you for the clarification

Is the potential trouble one can get into for owning a Colt lower with identical roll marks to a Robert-Roos listed AW really worth the legal risk, given that an otherwise identical piece of metal without said rollmarks is less than $150, and everyone agrees that lower receivers do not impact AR performance in the least?

If an arresting LEO and over zealous anti-DA believe the hunk of metal they confiscated is illegal, you are going to get caught up in the court and corrections system. A roll marked differentiated OLL has an advantage in that the battles over its legality have been fought out already. CA DOJ took their best shot at them years ago :twoweeks:. Can the same be said for boxes, product pamphlets, an FFL generated receipt, etc.?

JeffM
02-22-2011, 11:42 PM
If everyone wanted to be on the safe side, there would be no OLLs in California.

An arrest for a Colt 6940 would just highlight the idiocy of the law and could possibly fast-track the end of the list/AWB.

Anchors
02-22-2011, 11:49 PM
UH.... colts are on the list...

We just had a thread in 2A about a guy moving to CA with a LE6940.
They are not on list, but the lowers are all marked differently.
So some might actually be LE6920 lowers (banned). So the complete rifle is technically legal, but someone might trump up some charges on the lower.
He would probably win, but who wants to risk it.

We are waiting to see what his lower markings are.

And to whoever said LE only, just because something says that doesn't mean you can't own it. I can write LE only on all my guns right now and still use/own/sell them.

dennis1979gm
02-24-2011, 12:06 AM
my 6940 and 6920's have the same lower. My 6920's are in the 69xxx and 71xxx serial # range and have small pins just like the 6940. they are awsome rifles. the prices are outrages lately. I paid 1379.00 for my 6940 about 3months after they came out. I got my last 6920 a few months ago for 1079.00. 6940 are not listed but if you seperated the upper and lower how could you prove it wasnt a 6920? if mine wasnt registered I wouldnt risk it.

Lrchops
02-24-2011, 1:44 AM
Where can i buy?

Adamsons in Hayward California

xm177
02-24-2011, 8:32 AM
Funny that threads about Colt always go this way. Winds up being more about the legality of Colt. So many misconceptions. Not all Colt models are listed and a 6940 is one of them.

Gunrunners in Duarte carries them. Give them a call, they can order one if it's not in-stock.

gunafficionado
02-24-2011, 10:33 AM
You mean like this? :43:
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8008/unobtanium.jpg
Unobtanium from the SWAT competition in SJ a while back

Oooohhh!! Ahhhhh!! Nice!!

missiontrails
02-24-2011, 10:46 AM
The upper of the 6940 is what makes it unique. If you fondle one and like it, just buy a complete upper.... after all, a lower with a cheap stock is exactly that.. Botach sells lots of those uppers, and with the 15% off discount code, they are about $890 after tax.... with Colt FA BCG and Matech BUIS. Pick up a complete generic prebuilt lower like a CMMG for $300... and you have your OLL 6940.

Endless
02-24-2011, 4:05 PM
Well as you guys know the Colt LE6940 and LE6920 are going away/being discontinued, thus being harder to get. The new 6940/6920 will be called again the SP models. Thats what one of the vendors up here got from Colt. They said it had to do with some issues coming from the "LE" stamped 6940 and 6920 and civilians in freestates owning them. Some lawsuits went flying. Not sure if its even true. The price is going up. The standard price now for a BNIB one is about $1450. I have seen them at $1900. But in all honesty there are better AR15s out there. I have owned 3 6940s this past year and am moving up to a POF P415 GP.

The other thing is the new SP6940/ SP6920 will come in cheaper at $1225 for the exact same rifle as the LE6940/LE6920 MINUS the "LE" stamp. So thats good news.

It took me 2 weeks to find one...My Colt 6940 Porn for you guys..

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy32/endlessLE/IMG_1021.jpg?t=1298593808

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy32/endlessLE/IMG_0991.jpg?t=1298593723

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy32/endlessLE/IMG_1298.jpg?t=1298592052

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy32/endlessLE/IMG_1290.jpg?t=1298593573

tacticalcity
02-24-2011, 4:08 PM
You dirtly little fondler! Sorry, just liked the use of that word.

FailedAngrMgmt
02-24-2011, 9:56 PM
thanks for the pictures and the info. ive been in contact with a few different out of state ffl that have them in stock. i had a few that pretty much snubbed me off im guessing because they dont want to take 10 minutes out of their day to make things...easier i guess would be a good word, for the california ffl to recieve a legal weapon. and 1 im currently emailing back and forth are very helpful and willing do what it takes to make the sale. they have 1 currently with an odd configuration and "unregistered" (i dont know either) and are expecting more in on order. im going to wait for the order and purchase one from them...price they are selling is $1350. if everything goes smooth, i will update the post with their info for anyone who is wanting one.

speeedracerr
02-25-2011, 6:57 AM
Wow... With Colt discontinuing the LE6940 line, I guess that explains why the Colt upper receivers have been so difficult to find and priced at a premium.

At first I thought $1000 for an upper was steep for my budget since I could have build a whole new rifle and still had pocket change but Im at least glad that I had a chance to get an upper if not the actual LE6940.

Endless
02-25-2011, 6:58 PM
Wow... With Colt discontinuing the LE6940 line, I guess that explains why the Colt upper receivers have been so difficult to find and priced at a premium.

At first I thought $1000 for an upper was steep for my budget since I could have build a whole new rifle and still had pocket change but Im at least glad that I had a chance to get an upper if not the actual LE6940.

Yup, I called 24 gun shops in Washington state alone and only one had one instock. I drove up to Bellevue Washington (3 hour drive one way) and bought it. 4 shops had NIB 6920's. So I went to the big Portland Gunshow and they only had 2 BNIB 6940's. One was $1495 and the other was $1465 (no trades wanted).

So they will be getting harder and harder to get and they will go for a premium since they no longer make the "LE" stamped versions. The new "SP" models you probably will be able to get all day. I want to say I was quoted $1209 for the entire rifle. Of course we have no tax here so thats "OUT THE DOOR PRICE."
:D

NHP1127
04-04-2011, 2:38 PM
Sorry, but can someone varify that the new "SP"6920 rollmark is the exact same rifle specs as a "LE" 6920?... and with the new roll mark, that would mean the SP6920 can be legally bought in California? Thanks