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anotherone
09-08-2006, 10:06 PM
My credit card is still recovering from an accute case of BRD (Black rifle disease) and I've only got $400 to spend on a huntin' shotgun including DROS. What guns should I be looking at?

NRAhighpowershooter
09-08-2006, 10:30 PM
Either a mossberg 500 or a Rem 870 wingmaster.....

ivanimal
09-08-2006, 11:17 PM
+1 I like the 870 wingmaster myself.

chris
09-09-2006, 2:45 AM
i have a winchester 1300 not bad i use it for duck and turkey hunting. not tro bad a price something in the neighborhood of 350.00 or so.

NRAhighpowershooter
09-09-2006, 9:34 AM
In my above post I said both the mossy500 and the 870.. I would take the 870's steel receiver over the Mossy's aluminum receiver...slightly less felt recoil.... as far as strength... both are fine.. I have several thousand rounds of trap and skeet loads through my mossy and it's 21yrs old and is shows verry little wear.. I did how ever shot a 3" magnum one throught it.. ONLY once.. boy!!! talk about a shoulder bruiser!!!!!

Vigilante
09-09-2006, 10:47 AM
Mossbergs are made poorly in my opinion. I would go with a Remington 870. Also, I haven't shot one, so I can't recomend it, but I have heard good things about the Benelli Nova.

tankerman
09-09-2006, 12:02 PM
Should be able to find an excellent used 1100 in that price range

Rob454
09-09-2006, 2:01 PM
Either a Moss 500 or a Remington 870. I shot them both. Both are about the same. i really think its a matter of preference more than anything else. The 870 I shot seemed sort of cheap but the Mossy 500 with the plastic stock is the ultimate cheezy construction. I swapped out to wood stock and foregrip and it feels abotu 100X better
Rob

-hanko
09-11-2006, 8:15 PM
Should be able to find an excellent used 1100 in that price range
+1 for the 1100 & low mileage used ones should be well within your price range. I'd consider an Ithaca M37 before a Mossberg or 870 any day of the week...not a smoother pump made. Extremely easy to load/reload when the birds are flying hot.

-hanko

Vigilante
09-11-2006, 9:05 PM
I'd consider an Ithaca M37 before a Mossberg or 870 any day of the week
Now that we're talking used guns I'd also recomend the Ithaca over the Remington and the Mossberg. It's my dads all time favorite shotgun, and they can be found for pretty cheap. Even better in my opinion is the Browning BPS (it's what I shoot), which can be had used for under $400.

anotherone
09-12-2006, 1:20 AM
After a pretty convincing conversation with a friend on mine I opted to spend a little bit extra coin and purchased a Benelli Supernova 26 inch gun in Max 4 HD camo. Awesome gun...

magmaster
09-12-2006, 8:45 AM
I have a Benelli Nova and it has been flawless. Recoil isn't too bad and it's the smoothest pump I have ever used. I paid $360 for it.

VeryCoolCat
09-12-2006, 9:59 AM
Any shotgun with a long barrel that way you get that little extra accuracy. Hell... you could hunt with a double barrel. When it comes to hunting.... it doesn't really matter what gun you use.... as long as it shoots and is an appriopriate caliber for the target critter.

2 3/4" is fine for shotgun hunting. You don't really need 3" but the majority come with the ability to shoot both calibers.

tankerman
09-12-2006, 1:16 PM
Any shotgun with a long barrel that way you get that little extra accuracy. Hell... you could hunt with a double barrel. When it comes to hunting.... it doesn't really matter what gun you use.... as long as it shoots and is an appriopriate caliber for the target critter.

2 3/4" is fine for shotgun hunting. You don't really need 3" but the majority come with the ability to shoot both calibers.

What does "you could hunt with a double barrel" mean? Double barrels are quick pointers, no extra length from the receiver, less prone to breaking(less parts. Generally stronger. Might not be as 'cool' to look at, but work great in the field. My regular hunting shotgun is a Browning B\SS (SxS). Doubles have been around for a long time for a reason and I would suggest that anyone that enjoys shotgunning should spend a couple of bucks more and get a decent one.

VeryCoolCat
09-12-2006, 3:15 PM
What does "you could hunt with a double barrel" mean? Double barrels are quick pointers, no extra length from the receiver, less prone to breaking(less parts. Generally stronger. Might not be as 'cool' to look at, but work great in the field. My regular hunting shotgun is a Browning B\SS (SxS). Doubles have been around for a long time for a reason and I would suggest that anyone that enjoys shotgunning should spend a couple of bucks more and get a decent one.

I own a double barrel also... but in my experience. Double barrels are USUALLY shorter barrels and tend to really scatter the buckshot. Be great for bird, but for larger game. I'd be careful with the big game shot or #2 shots.

Vigilante
09-12-2006, 4:26 PM
Double barrels are USUALLY shorter barrels and tend to really scatter the buckshot.
Thats really only a question of barrel length and choke. I wouldn't say any type of shotgun is any more appropriate than another for hunting.

anotherone
09-12-2006, 4:46 PM
Double barrels rock for several reasons. First off, they're very light and very fast at aquiring targets whether those targets be clay pigeons, trap, ducks, or turkeys. Second off, they give you a quick follow-up shot without having to manipulate any action of any kind. Third, they are simply the most reliable way to fire two shots quickly. Fourth, in a recent survey 87.5% of ducks said they're much more afraid of double barrels than pumps or autos j/k :) heheh!

I've heard that over-under is the better configuration from many folks, but personally I think side by side is just as good. Double barrels are costly because of the difficulty of getting both barrels together so they both shoot straight. They're beautiful guns and if you have the coin you should definitely consider one.

-hanko
09-12-2006, 4:52 PM
I own a double barrel also... but in my experience. Double barrels are USUALLY shorter barrels and tend to really scatter the buckshot. Be great for bird, but for larger game. I'd be careful with the big game shot or #2 shots.
I would have mentioned an ou as an ideal hunting gun but the thread started mentioning a budget of ~$400...not able to recommend buying any double for that unless you want a wall-hanger.

Doubles with 30, 28, 26 and shorter barrels are very common. They mount and swing very naturally...check and see what serious trap and skeet shooters shoot, not pumps or semi's.

How the shot spreads is related to the barrel's choke, not its length. Shorter barrels mount and swing faster, longer barrels help with follow-through. I like a 28" barrel for waterfowl, 26 or 24 for upland birds. Throw in some buckshot or a slug and you can take home a deer.

If you're using buckshot for birds, you may not be hitting as many as you could with smaller shot...may also give you burger instead of meat if you hit something.

If you're looking to try a double, check out a used Citori or any Beretta.

-hanko

anotherone
09-12-2006, 11:31 PM
I would have mentioned an ou as an ideal hunting gun but the thread started mentioning a budget of ~$400...not able to recommend buying any double for that unless you want a wall-hanger.

Sadly $400 won't even get you a double made in Baikal, Russia. Although CZ does have an extremely nice repro for around $700. What $400 will get you is a Norinco Stage Coach Gun... a wall hanger :).

magmaster
09-13-2006, 9:19 AM
Check out Stoeger (sp?) they are owned by Benelli. I think they are made in Turkey but they have decent pricing on side by sides and over/unders. They even have an auto loader with the Inertia Drive for a little over $400. Not as nice as Benelli but not bad for the money either

VeryCoolCat
09-13-2006, 10:25 AM
Norinco (interstate) coach guns are usually $250 at big 5 when you can find them.

Vigilante
09-13-2006, 9:46 PM
Norinco (interstate) coach guns are usually $250 at big 5 when you can find them.
Those are cool, but they really aren't suitable for hunting.

jemaddux
09-14-2006, 12:06 PM
Another vote for the Mossberg 500 from me. I have had one for almost 20 years now. Still shoots great and I have never had a problem with it.:D

CalNRA
09-17-2006, 1:06 PM
Another vote for the Mossberg 500 from me. I have had one for almost 20 years now. Still shoots great and I have never had a problem with it.:D


but hey, it's not an 870 so it must be trash, right;)

my 500 lives happly as a folding stocked, short barreled, 3 inch bucked bedroom gun. No complaints here.

mdhpper
09-19-2006, 3:49 PM
I have been considering getting an 870 for a while & found Remington 870's on sale at Bolsa Gunsmithing $225 + a $30 mail in rebate = $195. I think this will make a great spare.

For anyone interested:
7404 Bolsa Avenue
Westminster, Ca. 92683
(714) 894-9100

cnyankee
10-02-2006, 7:05 PM
im happy with my stoger condor. out the door for less than 400...

wilit
10-02-2006, 9:25 PM
I've been looking for an inexpensive O/U, and apparently they don't exist. Why are O/U so expensive? I mean, semi-autos and pumps have way more parts and are more complicated, yet 50% less in price. What's the deal?

cnyankee
10-03-2006, 9:19 AM
I've been looking for an inexpensive O/U, and apparently they don't exist.
wilit my stoger condor is an o/u and out the door for less than 400

Outlaw Josey Wales
10-03-2006, 11:47 AM
I've been looking for an inexpensive O/U, and apparently they don't exist. Why are O/U so expensive? I mean, semi-autos and pumps have way more parts and are more complicated, yet 50% less in price. What's the deal?

Try Big 5 Sporting Goods. Just last week they had the Russian made O/U Remington SPR310 on sale for $399. At other times they sell the Khan O/U made in Turkey for $399 and the Mossberg Silver Legacy O/U for $469. It looks just like the Khan but has a nickle finish on the receiver.

I purchased one of the Khan shotguns about two years ago and it has worked fine. Comes with several chokes too.

wilit
10-03-2006, 6:06 PM
wilit my stoger condor is an o/u and out the door for less than 400

Hmm... That's almost exactly what I was looking for. Very utilitarian.

hubel458
10-03-2006, 8:28 PM
I'm a visiter here.Nice site.. If your stuck with
shotgun only big game hunting rules,(over 5 millions
guys are), a Savage 210 bolt action 12ga is great with
heavy slugs and saboted slugs. We use one to rebarrel
with heavy barrel for our 12GA FH, a long 3 & 3/4 inch
super strong brass 12ga case. Regular working loads
are 9,000 ft lbs.Ed Hubel

denalion22
10-03-2006, 9:47 PM
way back when I found a used remington 1187 with a really nice wood stock. I bought it for 425 including dros at martin b rettings in culver city.

I then went ahead and sold it a year later for the same price. You just need to look around and you will eventually find one

mike100
10-05-2006, 4:34 PM
Anything goes if you include a fair deal on a good used gun, but for new, I have been more than pleased with my CZ-712 (Huglu-imported from Turkey). It jammed once in about a 1000 shots with cheap federal walmart loads. the chromelined bbl is better than anything I have in 870 flavor and the IM choke pattern is incredible- even with cheap loads. It uses benelli chokes so you can always get more, but no need- it came with 5 included. They are around $300 when they were promoting them. They haven't had a production run of them for about a year now since huglu is selling a lot of double guns to dehaan and CZ-usa right now. The original intent was to make a $300 foray into autoloaderland to see if I liked it. I did, and will be keeping this gun rather than trade it towards a benelli. I'll probably try to get a benelli also.

Turners has a couple of odd 720's and 712 supermags left for sale and they also sell "escort" brand turkish autoloaders now. Those are the charles daly "Akkar" branded ones. I think the fit and finish on the huglu is a step above those.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/mschrameck/gun%20stuff/DSChuglusm.jpg

BPA
10-05-2006, 7:27 PM
Mossbergs are made poorly in my opinion. I would go with a Remington 870. Also, I haven't shot one, so I can't recomend it, but I have heard good things about the Benelli Nova.

My Mosberg 590 is made quite well. I don't know why people knock them all the time,personally I don't know anyone who has had one break.(plastic safety don"t count)I guess you know were my vote is going...

EasyT
10-10-2006, 8:24 PM
Any one of the shotguns mentioned will do fine for you. The rate of failure for any pump is very low. I have recently fired a Winchester 1300, Remington 870, and Mossberg 500. They all did exactly what they were supposed to do. Try to handle them all and decide which feels right to you.

I just dropped some money on a Benelli Nova for the simple reason that no one I know has one. It is fun to trade off at the range and have a little variety. I will pick it up next week. I'm guessing it will perform pretty much the same as the others.

magmaster
10-12-2006, 8:49 AM
I have a Benneli Nova and I love it. The pump is much smoother than any other pump I have used in the past. I have had it for about a year now with no problems. Great for hunting and skeet

ivanimal
10-12-2006, 9:57 AM
I have a Benneli Nova and I love it. The pump is much smoother than any other pump I have used in the past. I have had it for about a year now with no problems. Great for hunting and skeet

I have one of these as well, I wanted another turkey gun that would accept 3 1/2" shells. After shooting it at skeet, about 100 rounds my front hand was raw from the foregrip. I have pretty rough hands so its not that. Has anyone else had a similar experience or am I just in need of a different style forend.

http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/images/novaForeendButton.jpg

Blacktail 8541
10-12-2006, 8:49 PM
I'd go with an 870, I just like the balance and lines of it.

Adog5
10-15-2006, 9:08 AM
The question is do you want a pump-action or semi-auto?

I do not own a semi-auto, but I haven't seen one for sale with an 18" barrel (but it doesn't mean you can't get one or that I'm just wrong about this).

For pump-action, I own a Winchester 1300 defender. I've put hundreds of rounds through it, even rapid fire (as fast as I could go), and it has functioned flawlessly. The design is very clean and realiable. I got it for $200 at Big 5 when it was on Sale and wish I picked up 3 more.

I modified my Winchester to put an M4 collapsible stock / pistol grip on it made by ATI (along with extra shell holder). http://www.gunaccessories.com/ShotgunStocks/index.asp

Now this collapsible stock is only leagal on pump-action stocks.

I promise you that you won't be disappointed with this.

EasyT
10-18-2006, 11:25 PM
[QUOTE=ivanimal]I have one of these as well, I wanted another turkey gun that would accept 3 1/2" shells. After shooting it at skeet, about 100 rounds my front hand was raw from the foregrip. I have pretty rough hands so its not that. Has anyone else had a similar experience or am I just in need of a different style forend.

Picked up my Nova today and shot 50 rounds without similar complaint. Seems to me that a writer for a gunrag complained about the serrations in pistol grip being too sharp. Could be a QA issue with the guns involved. Could be that I didn't go through enough rounds to notice. I also didn't notice any excessive recoil that some have complained of. I must say that I'm very pleased so far.