View Full Version : "Poison Pills" in bills as a "strategy".

02-07-2011, 12:01 PM
In California we have to recognize that defending our rights will require "creative actions".

The reality is all these anti gun bills are "feel good" bills and the truth is it doesn't matter if they work, what matters to those who pushed the bill is they can go back and say they did "something".

The Mayor of DC blames the Supreme court for flooding DC with guns, then is probably taking credit for the reduction in crime since the "Heller case".:rolleyes:

Once we know what level of scrutiny the 2nd amendment will have, perhaps we may have some "closeted friends" who could "screw up" and write the gun bills in such a way that they would be thrown out by the courts.

Of course the best bills are NO BILLS, but if something has to hit Jerry's desk, we want something that he can veto because it is "flawed" or something that if passed, will fail with a court challenge.


02-07-2011, 1:10 PM
If I understand you correctly, the "poison pill" concept (and its opposite) has been used for years. It's a huge part of politics. Your opponent, by politic-ing, amends your bill with some provision (possibly completely unrelated to the original purpose of the bill) that is so distasteful to you that you won't even vote for your own bill or withdraw it. Or, he can insert something that you may not like, but because the original bill is so important to you, you accept the bad part anyway. Politics...


02-07-2011, 1:18 PM
We're going to win back our rights in court, not in congress.

02-07-2011, 2:36 PM
Do understand that inserting a political poison pill can be very honorable and wise.

At least in California, inserting a legal poison pill may not work at at all as intended. for our purposes the legal poison pill would likely be something that all those who love liberty would hate - and there's a pretty good chance that our courts would let the statute stand. Don't go there.

But political poison pills can be relatively low risk and may be great boons to liberty if allowed to stand (depending on who is inserting it and the reason therefore).

02-07-2011, 4:50 PM
That also implies that CA Republicans will have the ability to get something poisonous out of committee, much less on any bill

02-07-2011, 4:52 PM
That's how microstamping got killed off with the intellectual property requirement.