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hylander
09-04-2006, 07:31 PM
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blkA4alb
09-04-2006, 07:44 PM
Edited for not reading correctly.
blkA4alb
09-04-2006, 07:55 PM
My apologies :o . To answer your question, there is no cash and carry for firearms, I believe it must go through an FFL.
blacklisted
09-04-2006, 08:04 PM
My apologies :o . To answer your question, there is no cash and carry for firearms, I believe it must go through an FFL.
Not if it's more than 50 years old.
The term firearm does not apply to
federally defined “curio” or “relic” long guns over 50 years old for the purpose of
transfers between private parties.
blkA4alb
09-04-2006, 08:06 PM
Not if it's more than 50 years old.
But wouldn't he need a C&R license to sell it without going through an FFL? He doesn't have one.
blacklisted
09-04-2006, 08:21 PM
But being Sporterized does it still meet the definition of C&R ?
I have no idea.
That's an interesting question!
blkA4alb
09-04-2006, 08:24 PM
I thought that if you took the C&R out of its original condition it lost its C&R status. Hence the reason why people who put "non-sporting" stocks and accessories on their sks have to play the 922(r) game.
69Mach1
09-04-2006, 08:27 PM
Doesn't matter. You don't have a C&R license. You can put the rifle up for sale anyway you want, but when it's time to ship the rifle, you must ship it to an FFL where your buyer is located. You can ship it yourself with out the use of a local FFL. If it's a face to face transfer, you have to use an FFL to do that also. The way you word your question, "Do I now have to sell it through an FFL?" , I thought you were asking if you had to give it to the FFL to sell like a consignment through that FFL. You could, but you don't have to.
SemiAutoSam
09-04-2006, 08:56 PM
So then it doe's loose its C&R status being sporterized ?
I doubt it as its still the age that made it a C & R you didnt build it from scratch right.
How was it sporterized that makes it not still be a C&R ?
If the modification that made it a C & R went away when it was sporterized then maybe ya know ?
69Mach1
09-04-2006, 09:00 PM
So then it doe's loose its C&R status being sporterized ?
I don't know, but since you don't have a C&R lic. it doesn't matter. There is no "cash and carry" allowed in CA. All firearms transfers (sales) have to go through an FFL. Excluding C&R status of course. But again, you don't have a license.
chickenfried
09-04-2006, 09:14 PM
Face to face transfers , of C&R rifles fifty years or older are cash and carry in California , a c&r license is not needed
14. I want to sell a gun to another person, i.e., a private party transfer. Am I required to conduct the transaction through a licensed California firearms dealer?
Yes. Firearm sales must be conducted through a fully licensed California firearms dealer. Failure to do so is a violation of California law. The buyer (and seller, in the event that the buyer is denied), must meet the normal firearm purchase and delivery requirements. "Antique firearms," as defined in Section 921(a)(16) of Title 18 of the United States Code, and curio or relic rifles/shotguns, defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations that are over 50 years old, are exempt from this requirement.
I don't know, but since you don't have a C&R lic. it doesn't matter. There is no "cash and carry" allowed in CA. All firearms transfers (sales) have to go through an FFL. Excluding C&R status of course. But again, you don't have a license.
blacklisted
09-04-2006, 09:15 PM
I don't know, but since you don't have a C&R lic. it doesn't matter. There is no "cash and carry" allowed in CA. All firearms transfers (sales) have to go through an FFL. Excluding C&R status of course. But again, you don't have a license.
That's definately incorrect. I believe "Cash and Carry" is allowed for C&R firearms over 50 years old. However, I do not know if modifications remove it from the C&R definition.
I want to sell a gun to another person, i.e., a private party transfer. Am I required to conduct the transaction through a licensed California firearms dealer?
Yes. Firearm sales must be conducted through a fully licensed California firearms dealer. Failure to do so is a violation of California law. The buyer (and seller, in the event that the buyer is denied), must meet the normal firearm purchase and delivery requirements. "Antique firearms," as defined in Section 921(a)(16) of Title 18 of the United States Code, and curio or relic rifles/shotguns, defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations that are over 50 years old, are exempt from this requirement.
ETA: Of course, this transaction has to be face to face.
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