Olivier for Governor

[Art Olivier]

Californians have a right to keep and bear arms, no exceptions.

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Gun Control is hitting you target! t-shirt (http://www.cafepress.com/electart)

[ArmedWolf]

*Raises brow* Need more Talking, and less advertisement...

[JHC]

Art won't win but he's getting my vote,..voting third party is not throwing your vote away but voting for someone that you dont believe in is. Ahnold and Phil are both gun-banners and I wont supprort them.

[ArmedWolf]

well my trust for people in the state was flushed some time ago, so I really just stopped caring, I feel it goes negitive with whoever, this is a money state these days

[Art Olivier]

*Raises brow* Need more Talking, and less advertisement...
I didn't think I would have to do too much talking as you guys know better than anyone that Arnold is anti-gun. He showed his true colors when he outlawed .50 guns which had never been used in a crime in California.

I see you guys are from Sacramento. I'm going to be up there in the next couple of weeks. Do you know of any pro gun speaking opportunities up there?

[m1371]

*Raises brow* Need more Talking, and less advertisement...I didn't think I would have to do too much talking as you guys know better than anyone that Arnold is anti-gun. He showed his true colors when he outlawed .50 guns which had never been used in a crime in California.

I think the point he's making is that you joined CalGuns yesterday and your first post comes across as "Vote For Me!".

Besides, where's the info on your website regarding your position on gun control?

Simply saying that "Californians have a right to keep and bear arms, no exceptions." comes across as being a "safe" neutral statement. It doesn't really say much to me.

Tell me what you really think about California's firearms laws, their effect on the average everyday Joe Citizen, and what you'd do about it.

Where do you stand on the issue of CCW?

Do you know anything about the off-list lower situation and the actions the DOJ has been taking regarding it?

Are you aware of what had been going on with AB352, the microstamping legislation? How about AB2728?

Lots of other issues that I'm sure the CalGuns members would like to hear discussed, since you seem to be the first politician to openly venture onto our board.

I'm sure that there is potential to drum up quite a bit of grassroots supporters here.

BUT.....

If you want my vote, you're going to have to earn it.

[BLFD1]

::::::Sounds of crickets heard:::::::::confused:

Do ya think we scared him? Not many politicians are willing to answer questions like those, especially in writing....LOL! I'd Like to see a pro gun stance on his website.

My $.02

[chris]

since you say arnold is anti gun because of the .50 ban. he signed and that is history. unforntunately voting for you will not help us either. while i commend your commitment to our rights i cannot vote for you. the democratic opponent will win and we will lose our rights probably before his first term is out. this is not tinfoil hat just my opinion of the man.

i would love to see a true friend of gun owners in office i have to say my vote is for arnold. yes he has signed some bad laws and i can't forgive him for that but he will veto alot of bad bills that reach his desk. sorry Mr. Olivier i cannot vote for you considering what is at stake here in california. we are close to losing it all if angeledes gets elected with the current legislature in office.

good luck to you sir. and thanks for taking the time to talk to us.

[AW-FANATIC]

I would like to know what kind of experience this guy has in government. I looked over his site and I can't find anything stating that he has any experience at all. Mayor, Senator, Class President, Anything? He seems to have a lot of great ideas about how things should be in this state, but without an intimate knowledge of the inner workings of government and how to get things done it all amounts to nothing. More info and background would be great.

[Art Olivier]

Where do you stand on the issue of CCW? Police Chiefs should to have a valid reason to keep citizens from obtaining a CCW such as a felony conviction.

Do you know anything about the off-list lower situation and the actions the DOJ has been taking regarding it?
I would not sign any legislation banning additional AR-type lowers. The DOJ confiscating lowers for improper storage is skirting the law.
Are you aware of what had been going on with AB352, the microstamping legislation? I don’t think most criminals go to their local Wal-mart to buy their guns, but if they did, I’m sure they would not leave the microstamping on their weapon.

How about AB2728?

AB 2728 is an open invitation for the DOJ to shake down retailers. The Author, Assemblyman Klehs, believes that reducing the availability of guns and ammunition will decrease violence, not that there is a fundamental problem with the licensing of gun dealers.

[Art Olivier]

Where do you stand on the legalization of currently illegal drugs? Also, what is your position on securing the border of California?
I will work for implementation of Prop 215, the medical marijuana initiative and I support Tom McClintock's bill to legalize industrial hemp.

I would send troops to the border upon request of the President. There should be no benefits to illegal immigrants.

[Art Olivier]

I would like to know what kind of experience this guy has in government. I looked over his site and I can't find anything stating that he has any experience at all. Mayor, Senator, Class President, Anything? He seems to have a lot of great ideas about how things should be in this state, but without an intimate knowledge of the inner workings of government and how to get things done it all amounts to nothing. More info and background would be great.
Political Positions

■ 1994-1997 Councilman, City of Bellflower
■ 1997-1998 Mayor Pro-Tem, City of Bellflower
■ 1998-1999 Mayor, City of Bellflower
■ 1994-1997 Member, Bellflower Redevelopment Agency
■ 1997-1998 Vice Chairman, Bellflower Redevelopment Agency
■ 1998-1999 Chairman, Bellflower Redevelopment Agency
■ 1994-1997 Member of the Policy Board,
Southeast Los Angeles County Private Industry Council
■ 1997-1999 Chairman of the Policy Board,
Southeast Los Angeles County Private Industry Council
■ 1998-1999 Director, Los Angeles County Sanitation District
■ 2000 Vice Presidential Candidate for the Libertarian Party

One of the things I tried to do when I was Mayor Pro-tem was to get our own police force. At the time, we could have issued CCWs to everyone in Los Angeles County. I just needed one more vote on the council.

[SemiAutoSam]

Do you feel the aw bans in California should follow the federal governments lead when it comes to the AW sunset ? and would you support this ?


At the moment do you still have LASD / LASO ?

I worked in Belflower in the early 80's. Not really a place I would want to raise a family.


Maybe we could get Arnold to come on here and debate you on the issues.

Are you willing to be held responsible for the things you agree to and as they are called campaign promises ?

[Art Olivier]

Do you feel the aw bans in California should follow the federal governments lead when it comes to the AW sunset ? and would you support this ? Yes.


At the moment do you still have LASD / LASO ? LA Co. Sheriff

Maybe we could get Arnold to come on here and debate you on the issues. His people will not allow him to debate me on any issue.

Are you willing to be held responsible for the things you agree to and as they are called campaign promises ? Absolutely.

[Art Olivier]

So, you would agree with both of these? No I do not.

[KenpoProfessor]

No I do not.

OK, what part/s would you agree with and what is your stand on these issues?

Have a great Kenpo day

Clyde

[m1371]

Mr Olivier, I'd like to thank you for answering the questions which were put to you, in such a prompt manner.

Your initial post(s) struck me the wrong way and seemed to be nothing more than an attempt at free advertising on a message board. I will admit to being (pleasantly) surprised that you returned to address everyone's questions.

While I still stand behind my position that you will have to earn my vote, your responses have made me seriously look over your website.

I hope that you take the time to look around here at CalGuns, particularly in the "Legal Gun-Related Discussion" section, in order to see what we are all about. A candidate who is willing to take a stand against the ongoing gun control issues in California might find quite a few strong supporters here.

Looking forward to more discussion regarding your stance on numerous issues.

[Cato]

Californians have a right to keep and bear arms, no exceptions.

electArt.com (http://www.2006gov.com)

Gun Control is hitting you target! t-shirt (http://www.cafepress.com/electart)
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If Arnold signs the OLL bill, which he probably will, Oliver has my vote. Arnold's support of illegal immigration really disappoints me as well.

[Art Olivier]

OK, what part/s would you agree with and what is your stand on these issues?

Have a great Kenpo day

Clyde
I'm trying to answer all of the questions but still be respectful of the intended purpose of this forum and keeping on the topic of guns.
Here is a different forum that deals in illegal immigration where I had to answer some tough questions;
http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14618

[stag1500]

Mr. Olivier,

What are some of the things you would do to make government smaller and less intrusive/invasive in our personal lives and in our businesses?

[KenpoProfessor]

I'm trying to answer all of the questions but still be respectful of the intended purpose of this forum and keeping on the topic of guns.
Here is a different forum that deals in illegal immigration where I had to answer some tough questions;
http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14618

OK, went to SOS and volunteered for rallies in my area, next subject.

Are you going to attempt to have the "safe gun" requirement removed or repealed? This is nothing but State extortion of gun companies when LEO's can get anything they want, even if it's "unsafe" for us civilians. Also, any laws that restrict what we may have as handguns, ammuntion, or requirements that would limit capacity? You should be able to buy as many handguns as you like, of whatever you like, as this once a month and 10 day wait is ridiculous. I can see a wait for the very 1st gun you buy, anything after that, it's senseless, we already have one to do damage with, two or more isn't going to make us insane.

Next, will you repeal the AW ban that currently exists, not part, all? The rest of the nation is free to buy what ever they please, including Class 3, will that be a possiblility here in CA if you're elected?

Next, will you remove the requirement for a CCW "permit"? The 2nd amendment is what it is "Shall Not Be Infringed", if we want to carry either openly or concealed it would be our choice, not the state's. Look at Vermont, there is nothing in their Constitution concerning the 2A as is ours and because of that fact, they are allowed to carry openly or concealed without permits, LEGALLY.

Have a great Kenpo day

Clyde

P.S. great vid BTW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9eISWvvMdA&mode=related&search=illegals%20illegal%20aliens%20maywood%20min utemen%20save%20our%20state

[martialcomp]

Since when has it been legal for a citizen to buy a class 3 (fully automatic) firearm?

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcfullau.html

"It has been unlawful since 1934 (The National Firearms Act) for civilians to own machine guns without special permission from the U.S. Treasury Department. Machine guns are subject to a $200 tax every time their ownership changes from one federally registered owner to another, and each new weapon is subject to a manufacturing tax when it is made, and it must be registered with the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) in its National Firearms Registry.

To become a registered owner, a complete FBI background investigation is conducted, checking for any criminal history or tendencies toward violence, and an application must be submitted to the BATF including two sets of fingerprints, a recent photo, a sworn affidavit that transfer of the NFA firearm is of "reasonable necessity," and that sale to and possession of the weapon by the applicant "would be consistent with public safety." The application form also requires the signature of a chief law enforcement officer with jurisdiction in the applicant's residence.

Since the Firearms Owners' Protection Act of May 19, 1986, ownership of newly manufactured machine guns has been prohibited to civilians. Machine guns which were manufactured prior to the Act's passage are regulated under the National Firearms Act, but those manufactured after the ban cannot ordinarily be sold to or owned by civilians."

You guys should be asking this guy if he is in favor of any more gun control laws. Certainly, the 10 round limitation is totally insane and should be repealed. Calling a 11+ round magazine loaded in to a firearm an "assault weapon" is unbelieveable. To me, an assault weapon is a fully automatic pistol or rifle, something outlawed many years ago.

Also, you should be asking him about the current laws requiring drop testing as this has severely limited the sale of high quality firearms here in CA like all of the previously manufactured Smith and Wesson Performance Center double action pistols. Furthermore, manufacturers are already required to drop test their firearms anyway.

[Art Olivier]

Are you going to attempt to have the "safe gun" requirement removed or repealed? This is nothing but State extortion of gun companies when LEO's can get anything they want, even if it's "unsafe" for us civilians. Also, any laws that restrict what we may have as handguns, ammuntion, or requirements that would limit capacity? You should be able to buy as many handguns as you like, of whatever you like, as this once a month and 10 day wait is ridiculous. I can see a wait for the very 1st gun you buy, anything after that, it's senseless, we already have one to do damage with, two or more isn't going to make us insane.

Next, will you repeal the AW ban that currently exists, not part, all? The rest of the nation is free to buy what ever they please, including Class 3, will that be a possiblility here in CA if you're elected?

Next, will you remove the requirement for a CCW "permit"? The 2nd amendment is what it is "Shall Not Be Infringed", if we want to carry either openly or concealed it would be our choice, not the state's. Look at Vermont, there is nothing in their Constitution concerning the 2A as is ours and because of that fact, they are allowed to carry openly or concealed without permits, LEGALLY.

Have a great Kenpo day

Clyde


I agree with you on all of your points but as Governor I will not be able to repeal any of the bad laws already on the books. If the legislature sent me a bill to eliminate any gun regulation, I would sign it in a heartbeat. I will use the bully pulpit to advocate more freedom, I will not sign any new anti-gun laws and I will not allow the DOJ to make up their own regulations.

[Art Olivier]

Then do you realize that you are at odds with your party's official platform?
I am not running on the party's platform although I think I adhere closer to our platform of more freedom and less taxes than Schwarzenegger adheres to the Republican Party platform.

[Art Olivier]

Mr. Olivier,

What are some of the things you would do to make government smaller and less intrusive/invasive in our personal lives and in our businesses?
Everything that I can including presenting a budget that is lower than the previous one, pushing to make workers comp optional plus.. too much to list here. Please check out my issues page;
http://www.2006gov.com/issues.html

[KenpoProfessor]

Mr. Olivier, I believe your responses to my questions were honest and from the heart. You're going to have an uphill battle but I will lend a hand when you're in my area if I can.

I notice you don't have a way to donate via PayPal on your website. I'd like to support your campaign as well, and PayPal makes it very easy for us Ebay whores LOL.

Have a great Kenpo day

Clyde

[jnojr]

I am planning on voting for Mr. Olivier for Governor.

Even though I agree there's a slight chance of "splitting the vote" and allowing Angelides to win, I think it's a chance worth taking. Arnold has sold us out. He waited until after the primary and then did a 180 on illegal immigration. He's moving further and further to the left every time he opens his mouth. If we're going to have a Socialist for our next Governor, then by God let's have a real Socialist. Let the people in this state see what happens when we have a mexican Socialist Legislature and Governor. In four years, our economy will be wrecked, and just maybe that would start a sea change... get redistricting reform passed and turn the tables. If not, screw it... I can always pack up and leave.

In any case, I think it's time for a third party to get some more recognition. The traditional two party system isn't working. Neither party really represents the average American.

BTW, I also plan to vote for Tom McClintoc for Lt. Governor. Not because he's a Republican, but because he's an admirable man who happens to be a Republican. An (R) party affiliation means less and less to me each time I go to vote.

[SemiAutoSam]

I am planning on voting for Mr. Olivier for Governor.

Even though I agree there's a slight chance of "splitting the vote" and allowing Angelides to win, I think it's a chance worth taking. Arnold has sold us out. He waited until after the primary and then did a 180 on illegal immigration. He's moving further and further to the left every time he opens his mouth. If we're going to have a Socialist for our next Governor, then by God let's have a real Socialist. Let the people in this state see what happens when we have a mexican Socialist Legislature and Governor. In four years, our economy will be wrecked, and just maybe that would start a sea change... get redistricting reform passed and turn the tables. If not, screw it... I can always pack up and leave.

In any case, I think it's time for a third party to get some more recognition. The traditional two party system isn't working. Neither party really represents the average American.

BTW, I also plan to vote for Tom McClintoc for Lt. Governor. Not because he's a Republican, but because he's an admirable man who happens to be a Republican. An (R) party affiliation means less and less to me each time I go to vote.

Maybe his dem wife maria actually talks to him and prods in in that direction.

[tman]

I think I really like this guy. He sounds legitimate and level-headed to me.

[yiha]

I notice you don't have a way to donate via PayPal on your website. I'd like to support your campaign as well, and PayPal makes it very easy for us Ebay whores LOL.


why support an anti gun company such as Pay Pal?

[Art Olivier]

Beyond working for proposition 215, I would like a more specific description on what you will do in regards to illicit drugs.

I read your issues page, but I'm still uncertain. Do you advocate the legalization of illicit drugs to bring them into the same category as, say, alcohol, and tobacco?

If I was a libertarian philosopher, I would push to take the drug profits from violent gangs by making them legal. I am worried that Mexican drug cartels are infiltrating local governments here in southeast Los Angeles County.

As a pragmatic Libertarian politician, I have to choose my battles wisely. I will fight the federal government when they try to shut down medical marijuana dispensaries but not push to legalize all drugs. Just as my fellow Libertarian, Richard Mack, was the first Sheriff in the country to file a lawsuit against the Brady bill and ultimately won a landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision in defense of the 10th Amendment and State Sovereignty, I will use the 10th Amendment to stop federal raids on the dispensaries. I would do the same for federal gun laws except our state laws are worse than the federal ones.

[ArmedWolf]

Dropping in again, want to say sorry if I came on firm, but this is what I was hinting to, An open communication, I was figuring you would be a one post wonder. I'll probably print out this thread for any needed future reference. Thanks for taking this time to listen and answer to us, best of luck in your run!

[martialcomp]

Art, you look good to me too.

I am not sure that you can get in though. You may have too much common sense.

It looks like your views are apolitical. In other words, you choose the best decision based on LOGIC not EMOTION.

Emotion is the downfall of politics.

[Art Olivier]

Dropping in again, want to say sorry if I came on firm, but this is what I was hinting to, An open communication, I was figuring you would be a one post wonder. I'll probably print out this thread for any needed future reference. Thanks for taking this time to listen and answer to us, best of luck in your run!

No apology needed. If I was easily offended, I wouldn’t be in politics. You guys had some great questions. Thanks for listening.

[artherd]

Welcome Art! Thanks for taking the time to stop by personally and say hello! As you have already seen, we can be our own worst enemy sometimes. Guys, we have a guvonatorial candidate here willing to not only say hello but open an actual dialouge with us. This is huge. Police Chiefs should to have a valid reason to keep citizens from obtaining a CCW such as a felony conviction.

In a "shal issue" CCW system, one is still subject to a criminal history background check, that would flag and deny any felons or other prohibiting misdomenors. Police Chiefs need not be awarded this power or discretion, the method of exclusion is already in place at a higher level.

I would not sign any legislation banning additional AR-type lowers. The DOJ confiscating lowers for improper storage is skirting the law. You are very well informed here :)
I don’t think most criminals go to their local Wal-mart to buy their guns, but if they did, I’m sure they would not leave the microstamping on their weapon. Well put.

AB 2728 is an open invitation for the DOJ to shake down retailers. The Author, Assemblyman Klehs, believes that reducing the availability of guns and ammunition will decrease violence, not that there is a fundamental problem with the licensing of gun dealers.
2728 has undergone 'gut and ammend', it now deals with the OLL situation, after a fasion. (actually DOJ has directed the Legislature to revoke their power to list new AWs, an unprecediented turn of events. I am not sure honestly if the bill in it's current form is good or bad anymore. I am suspicious.

[chris]

i have to thank Mr. Olivier for coming here no politician has done so. he has more respect for us than those in office allready. i wish him the best of luck in running for governor. sir you have an uphill battle and it's great to see someone who thinks with his mind and not with emotion that dominates our politcal landscape here. again good luck sir.

[ivanimal]

I like what Mr. Oliver has to say but am still curious of what impact he will make in the coming election. I was unaware of him till now. Should my curiosity be peaked he will get my vote.

[AW-FANATIC]

Mr. Olivier, I hope that you be able to get to debate Arnie and Angelides on a televised segment. I think that with what you have said so far you would do well in aquiring votes. I think a majority of the people of this state are tired of the status quo and would really get behind someone who is really willing to make a change and use common sense to do it. For as long as I can remember people have been voting for the least of 2 evils. You, sir, have my vote and I will do my best to get you more. Thank you

[PanzerAce]

Well, I have to say thanks to Mr. olivier for answering everybodies Qs. Based on your responces (and in all honesty, the other options), you are going to be getting my vote in the election.

[stag1500]

Mr. Olivier,

Unfortunately politicians like you are few and far between in this state. California would be a much better state if you were running it. I wish you best of luck. You can count on my vote.

[M. Sage]

Win, lose, or draw, Mr. Olivier has earned a measure of my respect. Coming on to a California firearms forum, with the personalities who frequent here (myself included) and answering 'unscreened' questions took a lot of guts.

Thank you for answering all the questions.

+1

Mr. Olivier seems like a real stand-up guy. I don't even want to refer to him as a politician. :P

[ArmedWolf]

I'd still like to see his position on guns, right to carry and answers on his site so others can easily see

[AW-FANATIC]

I just looked over at AR15.com to see if there was any mention of Mr. Olivier and saw none. Would it be possible for one of you guys that are a member over there to post a link to this thread. I think it would be a good idea to spread the word around.

[Tweak338]

it has been done...