View Full Version : Permit needed to OC in IOWA CITY, IA?

Danz la Nuit
02-01-2011, 11:25 PM

IOWA CITY, IA (KGAN) - The Johnson County Sheriff is following the rules and signing open carry permits for all who qualify; even though in his eyes, not all of them really should qualify.

"The first full month of the new law, we've issued around 500 permits to carry, and 54 of those were people with criminal records," said Sheriff Lonny Pulkrabik.

Pulkrabik used to have discretion over who could get an open carry permit in his county, but not anymore. All it takes now is training, $50, and meeting state standards.

Anyone can get a permit to carry except felons, domestic abusers, and those committed as mentally unstable or dangerous by a court. Pulkrabik says that leaves several people he wouldn’t deem “law abiding citizens” carrying guns like people with several misdemeanors, unpaid fines, and even people with multiple non-felony convictions.

"A person who had an intox, and then a theft second which is a felony," said Pulkrabik talking about a permit he recently signed.

The applicant’s charges were reduced in trial to an aggravated misdemeanor.

"Just because it came down just inside the felony to an aggravated misdemeanor, that person is now eligible for a permit to carry a gun."

And the issue of mental stability is tough to track. Eventually the Clerk of Court will keep those records in a database, but it's not up yet, and when it is, it won't include past records.

"It's not going to be retroactive,” said Pulkrabik, “so once they have that up and running, we're only going to know about when people have been committed from that time forward."

Sheriff Pulkrabik says he's not against issuing gun permits, but believes the range of who can carry needs to be narrowed. He says his only concern is public safety.

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Tuesday, February 1 2011, 06:04 PM CST

Gray Peterson
02-01-2011, 11:57 PM
Iowa has a "Permit to Carry a Weapon" (PTCW).

02-02-2011, 12:00 AM
Iowa is sort of weird. You need a permit to acquire which is shall issue in order to buy a handgun. At least they got the CCW law straightened out this year when Culver, the now former Democratic governor, signed a bill that made Iowa shall issue (used to be up to the county sheriff), universal reciprocity, and those with a permit to carry concealed may also carry openly. What's interesting is the law specifically says you may open carry a rifle, shotgun or handgun.

02-02-2011, 12:04 AM
Also, Johnson county, where Iowa City is located, was one of a few shall-not issue counties in Iowa. Even in Linn county where Cedar Rapids, the second largest city in Iowa, is located, you could get a permit if you showed a need (carrying $500 or more in cash). Johnson county and Polk county (Des Moines and Ames) were the two shall-not issue, liberal pits of Iowa. I spent five years in Iowa City for college and can attest to it's overwhelmingly liberal streak.

02-02-2011, 12:32 AM
IMMHO, "People with criminal records" doesn't mean much.

02-02-2011, 3:07 AM
If the sheriff wants the list of disqualifiers expanded, I don't see a big issue, depending on what it is exactly. Sounds like he wants total discretion like it was before.

Mulay El Raisuli
02-02-2011, 5:27 AM
Iowa is where I'm planning to move to (in a couple of years). Its a new day in The Land of The Free & I think that Sheriff Pulkrabik can just boo-hoo until the cows come home.

The Raisuli

02-02-2011, 6:30 AM
Miles and miles and miles of nothing but corn.