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oaklander
08-30-2006, 10:58 PM
I finally got my IMBEL/DSA FAL done. It's got the requisite pinned magazine, and 922(r) compliance parts. It's a DSA Type 1 upper, with IMBEL everything else, and Penguin furniture. The stripper clip cover is from Tapco, and has a rail on it for a scope (but I'll probably stick with iron for now).

After much filing of the LS, the headspace is perfect. All controls work like they should and the function/safety check passed.

Now I'm just waiting for my Phantom FH, and I'm good to go!!!

Thanks all for the help!!!!

http://sonic.net/~fnfal/fal1.jpg

http://sonic.net/~fnfal/fal2.jpg

markymark
08-30-2006, 11:07 PM
Nice rifle. I've frequently thought about getting a FAL but I've been spending too much money recently. :(

insin
08-30-2006, 11:17 PM
Nice Job! What guide/directions did you follow in your build? I think I should read up on the topic a bit more and consider building one.

oaklander
08-30-2006, 11:22 PM
Thanks!

There's a guide by "Gunplumber" that's floating around as a shareware e-book. I used that, and the AGI DVD. I also posted questions at falfiles.com.

We'll see how it shoots, but I think I did everything right (headspacing and stuff like that).

Parts were around $550, counting the DSA upper.

:)

Cthulu
08-30-2006, 11:30 PM
Do they make a vortex flash hider for the FaL? I have the short belgian on my Imbel right now. But when i change out the barrel i want to put the vortex if i can find one..



(Death is Whimsical Today!!!)

oaklander
08-30-2006, 11:56 PM
I'm not sure - but the phantom is pretty mean too - see:

http://yankeehill.bizland.com/store/media/YHM-28-5C2.jpg

anotherone
08-31-2006, 2:15 AM
Man I wish I had the cash to build a FAL :(

pidooma
08-31-2006, 9:45 AM
Do they make a vortex flash hider for the FaL? I have the short belgian on my Imbel right now. But when i change out the barrel i want to put the vortex if i can find one..


It looks like SEI does make a FAL Vortex, though they list it as limited availability:

http://www.smithenterprise.com/products06.html

http://www.smithenterprise.com/imagesprod/Vortex_FAL_Metric.lg.jpg

Chaingun
08-31-2006, 9:49 AM
Looks good.

How did you go about pinning the mag, and can it be purchased online or a do-it-yourself job?

oaklander
08-31-2006, 3:12 PM
I used JB Weld (industrial epoxy) to "weld" a steel shim between the mag release and the mag.

The only way to remove the mag now is to completely disassemble the entire mag release assembly.

Furthermore, by permantly modifying the mag release button, I've ensured that the mag release will never work on this rifle without some serious machining (or a new mag release button). e.g. - the rifle can't just be "unpinned."

JB Weld is used for things like repairing cylinder heads and stuff like that - it's sandable and paintable, and rock hard when dry.

Hated to do it - but it's better than not having a FAL!!!!

The Brit
08-31-2006, 4:28 PM
Would it be an imposition to ask you to post some pictures of the magazine fix? I've got a DSA receiver lying around the house and I'd love to start building it up, but in such a way that I do not permanently ruin the receiver when I fix the mag.

Thanks.

icormba
08-31-2006, 4:35 PM
I finally got my IMBEL/DSA FAL done.

FUN! wasn't it? :D :)

oaklander
08-31-2006, 9:56 PM
My hands are sore from filing.

Brit - it's pretty ugly the way I did it - essentially, I just dremeled off a bit of an allen bolt and wedged it between the mag and the mag release. Then I epoxied it in there.

Now, the mag release can't be pushed forward at all, hence the magazine is fixed, and requires a tool to remove.

Cthulu
09-03-2006, 1:48 PM
If you are looking for a way to pin in the ten round mag
I bought one from http://www.entreprise.com
The system consists of replaceing the th mag ejector button with their that has a whole tapped into it with a allen screw to lock the mag in place.
They run for about $50 if you can't find them on their web site write to them and ask about the CA mag latch.. By the way anyone living in So/cal Enterprise is in Irwindale...


Cheers...

(Death Is whimsical today)

Socal858
09-03-2006, 4:25 PM
awesome build!

-hanko
09-03-2006, 5:02 PM
Oaklander, she's a beautiful weapon :D

What's your next one gonna' be??;)

-hanko

goose
09-03-2006, 5:46 PM
If you are looking for a way to pin in the ten round mag
I bought one from http://www.entreprise.com
The system consists of replaceing the th mag ejector button with their that has a whole tapped into it with a allen screw to lock the mag in place.
They run for about $50 if you can't find them on their web site write to them and ask about the CA mag latch.. By the way anyone living in So/cal Enterprise is in Irwindale...


Cheers...

(Death Is whimsical today)


I have done some business with Entreprise over the years and never a problem, but an alternative for you would to go here.
http://cgwgun.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=10
Rich is good people.

223-Sniper
09-04-2006, 2:09 AM
I want one How do I go about geting one ??:D

Pryde
09-04-2006, 3:10 AM
Despite the internet heresay going on about Entreprise, I've done alot of business with them and they are good people and they will always take care of their customers. The downside is that most of their gunsmithing services are quite pricey.

You might want to try contacting Larry Hirota of Triple H accurizing in azusa, he will convert a standard mag catch to a cali-legal one for $20.

On another note, if you want to acquire a fully built FAL, buy one from Entreprise with confidence. Their fully built STG's are only $800ish, about 500 cheaper than a DSA. I think the quality of their complete rifles is on par with that of DSA, their receivers are not as uniformly made as a DSA but on a built rifle all the gunsmithing has been done to it so it should function 100%. Their products are guaranteed for life so if you live in socal you can always go by their shop if you have any problems.

Q
09-04-2006, 8:31 AM
nice fal:)

slowjonn
09-04-2006, 8:37 AM
Their fully built STG's are only $800ish, about 500 cheaper than a DSA.
Where did you find one for that price? The cheapest Cali Fal was $1199 per their website.

oaklander
09-04-2006, 9:25 AM
Thanks everyone for the compliments!

I took her out yesterday and she again performed flawlessly.

Right now I'm saving money for more ammo, since it looks like I'm going to be using a lot.

My next build, if I get the money, would probably be an inch gun, with wood furniture.

I also just ordered the CGW mag catch, since it's a better looking solution than my JB Weld special, and the price is reasonable (these are hard to drill and tab yourself - they are made from forged steel).

SemiAutoSam
09-04-2006, 9:32 AM
There is a shop in Douglas county Nevada Gardnerville area that sells a FAL Locking Mag Device

This was the place I bought my Fal lock from.

http://cgwgun.com/detail.aspx?ID=36

Cthulu
09-04-2006, 4:25 PM
Despite the internet heresay going on about Entreprise, I've done alot of business with them and they are good people and they will always take care of their customers. The downside is that most of their gunsmithing services are quite pricey.

You might want to try contacting Larry Hirota of Triple H accurizing in azusa, he will convert a standard mag catch to a cali-legal one for $20.

On another note, if you want to acquire a fully built FAL, buy one from Entreprise with confidence. Their fully built STG's are only $800ish, about 500 cheaper than a DSA. I think the quality of their complete rifles is on par with that of DSA, their receivers are not as uniformly made as a DSA but on a built rifle all the gunsmithing has been done to it so it should function 100%. Their products are guaranteed for life so if you live in socal you can always go by their shop if you have any problems.



Do you have his information on how I can contact him? And does he do all gunsmithing on FaL's?

GTKrockeTT
09-04-2006, 5:14 PM
Larry Hirota at Triple H Accurizing (626) 334-2270, he is located in Azusa off the 210.

oaklander
09-04-2006, 5:17 PM
Hi Cthulu - re: the mag catch - it was $27 + shipping from CGW - I ordered this AM - and he already shipped it today!!!

http://cgwgun.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=10

You *can* get mag catches from Sarco for about $6 - but then you have to drill and tap them. It's not trivial (I tried) - you would have to have a 1/2 inch drill press, and a really good bit (the catches are forged steel, like a wrench).

$20 is a good price for a conversion, too.

C.G.
09-04-2006, 5:25 PM
Hi Cthulu - re: the mag catch - it was $27 + shipping from CGW - I ordered this AM - and he already shipped it today!!!

http://cgwgun.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=10

You *can* get mag catches from Sarco for about $6 - but then you have to drill and tap them. It's not trivial (I tried) - you would have to have a 1/2 inch drill press, and a really good bit (the catches are forged steel, like a wrench).

$20 is a good price for a conversion, too.

You do need a good drill bit, but don't need a 1/2" drill (I didn't); on the other hand you might need about 20-30 minutes of your time and you might break either the bit (happened to me) or the tap (happened to others).