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Beelzy
01-27-2011, 1:39 PM
I was scrounging around the Garage last weekend and ran across a belt of around 20 empty .308 cases linked with m60 links. Still a Hi-Cap magazine correct?

If so, can I add my 1919 30.06 ammo and links to this belt and run it?

Pavel
01-27-2011, 3:28 PM
Yes, you legally own a pre-ban hi-cap ammunition feeding device. You can add more links, just like you can rebuild a pre-ban 11 rounder into a 100+/whatever capacity mag.

CSACANNONEER
01-27-2011, 3:37 PM
Since M60 links won't work in a 1919, you'ld be hard pressed to win that fight in court. Now, if you had found .308 brass linked in izzy links, you could easily replace them with 8mm or 30-06 and have fun feeding them through your 1919. But, izzy links were designed for 1919s and multiple calibers too.

Your belts with M60 links are still legal to use in your M60 or HK(I forget the model number that can take belts).

xenophobe
01-27-2011, 3:38 PM
Yeah, so what's with this... once a typical metal-linked belt is shot, it disintegrates. Is there any solid argument that you can rebuild a disintegrating link belt?

The last I remember this being discussed is that you build a belt but put an inert round so that after you're finished firing you still have an 11 round belt, just to be safe.


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Bhobbs
01-27-2011, 4:43 PM
Yeah, so what's with this... once a typical metal-linked belt is shot, it disintegrates. Is there any solid argument that you can rebuild a disintegrating link belt?

The last I remember this being discussed is that you build a belt but put an inert round so that after you're finished firing you still have an 11 round belt, just to be safe.


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You can disassemble hi cap mags and replace parts and rebuild back to a hi cap mag so why would this be any different?

dantodd
01-27-2011, 5:06 PM
You can disassemble hi cap mags and replace parts and rebuild back to a hi cap mag so why would this be any different?

While I believe that many belt shooters recommend never letting your belt disintegrate below 11 rds. I agree with Bhobbs interpretation, it is merely disassembled.

xenophobe
01-27-2011, 5:10 PM
A standard high capacity magazine's capacity isn't affected when it is merely used. The capacity of disintegrating links being used is.

And I agree, it's a non-issue, but one that was highly discussed before the ban went into effect. I was just wondering if there had been any additional clarification.

AaronHorrocks
01-27-2011, 7:37 PM
Actually the Canadian version of the 1919a4, the M1919A4C1 does use M60 links, and fires 7.62x51

jamesob
01-27-2011, 8:54 PM
i'm waiting for the saw to become legal, i have thousands of links.:D

motorhead
01-27-2011, 9:57 PM
they have to fit in the gun for which they were manufactured. so the m60 links can't be rebuilt into 1919 links.

mej16489
01-28-2011, 4:52 PM
i'm waiting for the saw to become legal, i have thousands of links.:D

Ditto, I have a storage tub that's roughly 3' x 2' x 2' that's almost full. :ninja:

Anchors
01-28-2011, 6:46 PM
You can change the capacity (to be any number above 11) and replace any parts (including all of them, aka new magazine/belt)

BUT
It has to be able to work the same way it originally did.
So if I have an 11 round USGI AR mag. I can replace it completely with a 30 round PMAG and throw the old one away (or keep in parts).
But I can't replace my AR mag with a 30-round Glock mag (unless I can get it to feed my AR haha).

Belts are no different, a device is a device.

Off-topic: If you had a legal belt link for an M249 that was 11+links, couldn't you replace it with a normal AR mag since the SAW feeds AR mags and belted ammo?

CSACANNONEER
01-28-2011, 7:00 PM
Actually the Canadian version of the 1919a4, the M1919A4C1 does use M60 links, and fires 7.62x51

I learned something new today. Thanks.

Sydwaiz
01-28-2011, 7:11 PM
You can change the capacity (to be any number above 11) and replace any parts (including all of them, aka new magazine/belt)

BUT
It has to be able to work the same way it originally did.
So if I have an 11 round USGI AR mag. I can replace it completely with a 30 round PMAG and throw the old one away (or keep in parts).
But I can't replace my AR mag with a 30-round Glock mag (unless I can get it to feed my AR haha).

Belts are no different, a device is a device.

Off-topic: If you had a legal belt link for an M249 that was 11+links, couldn't you replace it with a normal AR mag since the SAW feeds AR mags and belted ammo?

On that note (in red) could a 5.56 AR mag be replaced with a 9mm AR mag? They are both designed for the same weapon technically.

Anchors
01-28-2011, 7:25 PM
On that note (in red) could a 5.56 AR mag be replaced with a 9mm AR mag? They are both designed for the same weapon technically.

No, I believe it has to be able to fire the original caliber.

Sydwaiz
01-28-2011, 8:18 PM
No, I believe it has to be able to fire the original caliber.

Okay, so how bout a converted uzi mag with a Colt style? Or would the Colt style also have to work in the uzi?

Anchors
01-28-2011, 8:29 PM
Okay, so how bout a converted uzi mag with a Colt style? Or would the Colt style also have to work in the uzi?

Would also have to work in the Uzi.
Again, it has to still function in the weapon it was designed for.
Not that there aren't magazines that will work in more than one kind of weapon.

Beelzy
01-28-2011, 8:52 PM
Ok, so I discovered that JMB was a genius and the 1919 will feed M60 links....backwards with no permanent mods. So............................:D