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goldrush
01-26-2011, 8:53 AM
Does anyone have a good link on what's involved in flying with a shotgun to California?

I'd also like to know the rules once there, like if it's in my trunk, can I stop for lunch?

Thank you

QQQ
01-26-2011, 8:55 AM
Keep it unloaded. To play it extra safe, keep it in your locked trunk.
You can stop for lunch.

Coded-Dude
01-26-2011, 8:55 AM
the link will be the one for you airline. contact them and find out their policy in regards to declaring/transporting it. As long as you pass their requirements(likely: unloaded in a locked container) you should be gtg in CA

Wildeman_13
01-26-2011, 8:57 AM
And make sure that the locked container is "FAA approved" just to be safe. I've flown with normal hardsided contains with no issues, but you never know sometimes.
Also, make sure it is a solid built container. Think about any time you may have had luggage damaged when you fly then think about your metal baby being treated the same way.

CSACANNONEER
01-26-2011, 9:07 AM
First, check to make sure that it is not considered a Ca AW (links to flowcharts at top of page). As long as it's not, it's just like flying anywhere in the US with any firearm.

goldrush
01-26-2011, 9:09 AM
First, check to make sure that it is not considered a Ca AW (links to flowcharts at top of page). As long as it's not, it's just like flying anywhere in the US with any firearm.

Thanks, guys, i mean folks. Just a trap 870.

bsim
01-26-2011, 9:17 AM
Check the airline's site, search for "firearms". Hard container, real locks (not the TSA ones), and definitely unloaded. Declare it at the counter, and get escorted to baggage screening.

No big deal, but plan for time in the line for the counter.

CSACANNONEER
01-26-2011, 9:17 AM
Thanks, guys, i mean folks. Just a trap 870.

Contact your airline or look online and follow their firearms policies. It's really not hard. When you get here, transporting it is no different than anywhere else in the country. You just need to be aware of federal laws involving GFSZs.

BTW, when you get to the airport and, are waiting in line to check in, find someone who works there and quitely ask him/her were you should go to declare a firearm. Please, don't just walk in and say "I have a gun and, I am taking it on the plane with me." Don't even use the word "gun". Be professional, relaxed and matter of fact. If you don't need to bring ammo with you, don't do it. Since you're just bringing a common gun, it should be easy to pick up ammo when you get here and give it away when you leave.

taperxz
01-26-2011, 9:37 AM
Place SG in approved hard case, walk up to check in bags and declare your firearm,you will declare it is unloaded there, you will be escorted to a TSA screening room where an agent will inspect the firearm and declare it unloaded. It will then be checked into baggage. You will upon your arrival p/u at the special baggage area and walk out. Pretty simple stuff. Really just a minor inconvenience.

goldrush
01-26-2011, 9:59 AM
Contact your airline or look online and follow their firearms policies. It's really not hard. When you get here, transporting it is no different than anywhere else in the country. You just need to be aware of federal laws involving GFSZs.

BTW, when you get to the airport and, are waiting in line to check in, find someone who works there and quitely ask him/her were you should go to declare a firearm. Please, don't just walk in and say "I have a gun and, I am taking it on the plane with me." Don't even use the word "gun". Be professional, relaxed and matter of fact. If you don't need to bring ammo with you, don't do it. Since you're just bringing a common gun, it should be easy to pick up ammo when you get here and give it away when you leave.

Thank you, everyone.

Exactly what I was thinking on the ammo.

I have to say that I'm still pretty scared to be flying in and out of San Francisco, CA with a shotgun.

dantodd
01-26-2011, 10:00 AM
Contact your airline or look online and follow their firearms policies. It's really not hard. When you get here, transporting it is no different than anywhere else in the country. You just need to be aware of federal laws involving GFSZs.

BTW, when you get to the airport and, are waiting in line to check in, find someone who works there and quitely ask him/her were you should go to declare a firearm. Please, don't just walk in and say "I have a gun and, I am taking it on the plane with me." Don't even use the word "gun". Be professional, relaxed and matter of fact. If you don't need to bring ammo with you, don't do it. Since you're just bringing a common gun, it should be easy to pick up ammo when you get here and give it away when you leave.

Don't assume that transport laws are the same in other parts of the country. You can NOT have the shotgun in your car loaded under any circumstances. (at least none you are likely to encounter as a visitor.)

I would just keep it in the airline approved case when you aren't using the gun there is no requirement that it be locked but you have the case, you have the lock and some cops do not know the laws so.....

California has decided that the Fourth Amendment doesn't exist when it comes to firearms. If you tell a cop that you have a firearm in your car (a traffic stop for example) the officer has a legal right to inspect the firearm to ensure it is unloaded. Yes, it is unconstitutional but it is current law and while we are trying to fix it there is no reason for you to be the test case. :-) just comply with the illegal search.

No reason to not bring ammo if you like a particular load for competition or hunting. The airline can tell you if they have a limit for checking in your luggage. They may also want it stored in a separate locked container.

taperxz
01-26-2011, 10:15 AM
Thank you, everyone.

Exactly what I was thinking on the ammo.

I have to say that I'm still pretty scared to be flying in and out of San Francisco, CA with a shotgun.

Don't EVEN freak out about it!! Heck i fly from California to CANADA!! No problems!! When you are HERE just do what Dan said. Again, the flying here part and checking in is NO big deal!! When you are walking in and out the airport no one is even looking at you or even cares.

tacticalcity
01-26-2011, 10:22 AM
I assume you are flying commercial? The airline's website will have their specific guidelines. Different airlines have different quirks in addition to the federal guidlines. So just visit their website and follow their rules.

Chester
01-26-2011, 10:25 AM
I flew in and out of San Diego over Christmas with a full featured AR and a Glock (first time flying with guns) and it was actually no problem what so ever. First thing I did was just waited for my turn at baggage check and simply told the ticket agent, "I have firearms to declare." She gave me something to sign that said I promised they were unloaded, I put a copy inside the case, and it got put on the plane.

When I landed both times, I had to show my ID to get my guns back from a pile of luggage put off to the side and that was that. No hassle, no troubles, not even with the TSA... although the idiots at one point swabbed the outside of my Pelican case for explosive residue. It didn't pop for any, but I was wondering what the point of that was.

EDIT: I was flying Alaska and using a Pelican AR Encore case with two Master Locks (padlocks) that used the same key. Watch out for the oversize baggage fee! My case is actually 5" past the max linear size, but they didn't charge me an extra $50... though I was expecting them to. One more reason to keep flying Alaska if you ask me.

goldrush
01-26-2011, 5:34 PM
Don't EVEN freak out about it!! Heck i fly from California to CANADA!! No problems!!

You fly in and out of Canada with a gun? Didn't know that was possible.

taperxz
01-26-2011, 5:43 PM
Every year! No problems at all either way. Shotgun for geese and ducks.

goldrush
01-26-2011, 6:33 PM
Every year! No problems at all either way. Shotgun for geese and ducks.

Do you have to fill out a Form 6? Are there any forms?

Lagduf
01-26-2011, 7:16 PM
I flew with a gun for the first time last year. It was pretty easy and most of the advice in this thread has already been spot on.

When I approached the check in counter I stated "I have unloaded firearms to declare."

I flew with an AR (with BB) and a G17.

When I landed in MCI my gun case came out with the regular luggage. When i returned back to SMF my gun case was off to the side.

taperxz
01-26-2011, 7:16 PM
The only forms i filled out were a customs form at US customs so when i get back in the country they can verify i did not import. (they never checked) and the Canadian form of declaration and the $25 fee but thats all Canada stuff. None of it was a big deal.

dls
01-26-2011, 7:19 PM
Ca. legal firearms are no problem, just NO AMMO, it's not worth trying it or the potential hassle.

goldrush
01-28-2011, 6:12 AM
Is there any problem getting on the rental car shuttle with the gun?