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anotherone
08-24-2006, 6:41 PM
OK guys, I have a slightly different spin on high caps. Like alot of folks I've got plenty of high caps around from before the ban. However, I don't have any for some of my newer post 1999 pistols such as my XD and PX4. Would it be lawful for me to possess high cap magazine parts so long as they were only assembled and used in Nevada or Arizona and then disassembled before returning to California rendering them as parts? Would I be pushing the envelope too far and be inviting myself to a test case?

Diabolus
08-24-2006, 7:04 PM
Why risk it?

You could be dating a girl who calls the cops on you one night and tells them you threatened her with a gun.

6172crew
08-24-2006, 7:06 PM
OK guys, I have a slightly different spin on high caps. Like alot of folks I've got plenty of high caps around from before the ban. However, I don't have any for some of my newer post 1999 pistols such as my XD and PX4. Would it be lawful for me to possess high cap magazine parts so long as they were only assembled and used in Nevada or Arizona and then disassembled before returning to California rendering them as parts? Would I be pushing the envelope too far and be inviting myself to a test case?

If you are just going by the law it says you cant import the magazine into CA but there are plenty of folks who buy and keep magazines out of state.

I have a footlocker full of stuff in Carson City, I like the fact that I dont have to worry about my magzines in my garage and the safe just isnt big enough for everything.

artherd
08-24-2006, 7:35 PM
If I were a prosecutor, I would have a hard time convincing a court of law that a spring sitting next to a floorplate with a mag body that fell back behind the credenza, and where the heck is the follower anyway, was infact a functional ammunition feeding device.

On the other hand, it does seem easier to me to rent a locker in NV.

EBWhite
08-24-2006, 7:44 PM
Yes, it would be legal for you to do what you are saying. There was a DOJ letter from the woman over in Sac saying mag parts are okay to own.

anotherone
08-24-2006, 8:40 PM
On the other hand, it does seem easier to me to rent a locker in NV.

Suddenly... I saw the light! Could I also keep a few built up detachable lowers in said locker so that way all I had to bring was my uppers?

TKo_Productions
08-24-2006, 9:25 PM
Suddenly... I saw the light! Could I also keep a few built up detachable lowers in said locker so that way all I had to bring was my uppers?

Most definitely you could. However, I would recommend that you check with whomever you're renting the locker from that it would be okay to store firearms in it (if it's at a range, there probably wouldn't be a problem as it would be expected).

Many people did this back in 1999 as an alternative to registering their "assault weapons."

Hanniballs
08-24-2006, 9:25 PM
illegal is illegal

grammaton76
08-24-2006, 10:23 PM
If you do store receivers at someone else's house out of state, it might be advisable to keep it in a locked container and not give them the key. The point is that you could be accused of doing a straw man transfer or something silly like that, if you just went "Hey, I'm gonna leave this gun from CA at your place, ok?"

artherd
08-24-2006, 11:29 PM
Suddenly... I saw the light! Could I also keep a few built up detachable lowers in said locker so that way all I had to bring was my uppers?
You could keep the whole gun there. I recommend a lock to which only you have the key, if it is to be stored at a friend's house, etc. (don't want to look like you transfered the gun to him. Then again, do longgun PPTs in NV have to go through an FFL? I do not know.)

Santa Cruz Armory
08-25-2006, 12:04 AM
Rent a safety deposit box for your lowers in NV LOL! that would be good, storing your guns in a bank !:D

TKo_Productions
08-25-2006, 1:34 AM
Rent a safety deposit box for your lowers in NV LOL! that would be good, storing your guns in a bank !:D

When the whole OLL movement began, at least one member here did just that! ;)

Also, back in the 60's, there used to be an indoor range in the basement of a bank in Hollywood. It wasn't uncommon to see folks pulling a rifle or pistol out of their trunk in the parking lot. Try and do that today! :eek: :eek:

adamsreeftank
08-25-2006, 1:41 AM
When the whole OLL movement began, at least one member here did just that! ;)

Also, back in the 60's, there used to be an indoor range in the basement of a bank in Hollywood. It wasn't uncommon to see folks pulling a rifle or pistol out of their trunk in the parking lot. Try and do that today! :eek: :eek:

That reminds me of the Reno gun show. My friend and I were laughing at the people walking in and out of the casino with rifles slung over their shoulder. Thats not something you see everyday. I think if you tried that in Vegas you wouldn't get 10 feet.

anotherone
08-25-2006, 1:53 AM
That reminds me of the Reno gun show. My friend and I were laughing at the people walking in and out of the casino with rifles slung over their shoulder. Thats not something you see everyday. I think if you tried that in Vegas you wouldn't get 10 feet.

But... but... but... if a law-abiding citizen has a gun in a Casino he must be there to attempt to rob the casino :rolleyes: ! Silly liberals, guns are for kids not for rabbits!

CTT2
08-25-2006, 2:18 AM
You could keep the whole gun there. I recommend a lock to which only you have the key, if it is to be stored at a friend's house, etc. (don't want to look like you transfered the gun to him. Then again, do longgun PPTs in NV have to go through an FFL? I do not know.)

Federal law says that you need to go through a FFL if the gun is being transfered intrastate. No restrictions on face to face transfers of in state residents. However a state my have laws that make it a requirement to go through a FFL like California. It's up to you to know the state laws. And it is felony for you to go to another state and try to buy a gun there. Federal law says you can only buy and take into possesion a fire in your state of residence. If you get busted you will lose your right to own firearms. However you can buy and pay for it in say at the Reno gun show and have it shipped to a FFL in California. Also for the military folks, if you live in the California side but have PCS orders to be stationed in Reno, Nevada and have to drive there for work. You can legally claim both states as a place of residence and buy a gun in either California or Nevada. This is just an example. Doesn't work for Civilians if you have to drive to your job in another state and back.

grammaton76
08-25-2006, 2:44 AM
Federal law says you can only buy and take into possesion a fire in your state of residence. If you get busted you will lose your right to own firearms.

Not to mention, whether you get busted or not, you'll burn your fingers in the attempt.

blkA4alb
08-25-2006, 9:04 AM
illegal is illegal
What are you referring to? This is legal.

artherd
08-27-2006, 1:15 AM
illegal is illegal

Yes, and that which is not illegal, is not criminal. (look that one up, it's origions date all the way back to common law and it's one of the cornerstones of our legal system.)

There is no prohibition on a collection of parts. Only a prohibition on certin types of ammunition feeding devices.