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pacrimguru
01-24-2011, 11:03 PM
which other states have magazine / mag lock restrictions like ours in CA? can shooters living in other restricted states use bullet buttons / raddlocks / solar tactical grips / MMG's / hammerhead grips / U15 stocks? just wondering.

753X0
01-25-2011, 4:58 AM
Pretty sure China is kinda strict....
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Quiet
01-25-2011, 5:27 AM
New York

cedricxerxes
01-25-2011, 6:19 AM
From our friends at www.lcav.org.

New York, Massachusetts, & Connecticut all have feature-based bans that mirror the Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994-2004. I've never heard of anyone using a bullet button outside of California. Maybe those states lack the "Detachable magazine" definition language [CCR 11 5469 (a)].

A semi-automatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristic:
A folding or telescoping stock;
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
A bayonet mount;
A flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor;
A grenade launcher; or

A semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics:
An ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;
A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded;
A semi-automatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or handgun; or

A semi-automatic shotgun that has at least two of the following characteristics:
A folding or telescoping stock;
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
A fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds;
An ability to accept a detachable magazine;


Hawaii has a features-based ban for "assault pistols".
"assault pistol" is defined as a semiautomatic handgun which accepts a detachable magazine and which has two or more of the following characteristics:

(1) An ammunition magazine which attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
(2) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward hand grip, or silencer;
(3) A shroud which is attached to or partially or completely encircles the barrel and which permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the second hand without being burned;
(4) A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded;
(5) A centerfire pistol with an overall length of twelve inches or more; or
(6) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
An assault pistol does not include a firearm with a barrel sixteen or more inches in length, or an antique, curio or relic. Id.


Maryland bans listed "assault pistols" or their copies.
In this subtitle, "assault pistol" means any of the following firearms or a copy regardless of the producer or manufacturer:

(1) AA Arms AP-9 semiautomatic pistol;
(2) Bushmaster semiautomatic pistol;
(3) Claridge HI-TEC semiautomatic pistol;
(4) D Max Industries semiautomatic pistol;
(5) Encom MK-IV, MP-9, or MP-45 semiautomatic pistol;
(6) Heckler and Koch semiautomatic SP-89 pistol;
(7) Holmes MP-83 semiautomatic pistol;
(8) Ingram MAC 10/11 semiautomatic pistol and variations including the Partisan Avenger and the SWD Cobray;
(9) Intratec TEC-9/DC-9 semiautomatic pistol in any centerfire variation;
(10) P.A.W.S. type semiautomatic pistol;
(11) Skorpion semiautomatic pistol;
(12) Spectre double action semiautomatic pistol (Sile, F.I.E., Mitchell);
(13) UZI semiautomatic pistol;
(14) Weaver Arms semiautomatic Nighthawk pistol; or
(15) Wilkinson semiautomatic "Linda" pistol.

In addition Maryland regulates defined "assault weapons":
Maryland regulates the sale of assault weapons, defined to include a list of 45 specified firearms or their copies, including certain variations of those models. Md. Code Ann., Pub. Safety 5-101(p). Assault weapons qualify as state-defined "regulated firearms," and transfers of such guns are subject to enhanced background checks, firearms dealer regulations, private/secondary sales, and reporting of lost or stolen firearms regulations. Id. Additionally, purchasers:
Must be age 21 or older (see the Maryland Minimum Age to Purchase/Possess section);
Are subject to a seven-day waiting period; and
Are limited to one assault weapon in any 30-day period



New Jersey's ban:
Algimec AGM1 type
Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder such as the "Street Sweeper" or "Striker 12"
Armalite AR-180 type
Australian Automatic Arms SAR
Avtomat Kalashnikov type semi-automatic firearms
Beretta AR-70 and BM59 semi-automatic firearms
Bushmaster Assault Rifle
Calico M-900 Assault carbine and M-900
CETME G3
Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88 type
Colt AR-15 and CAR-15 series
Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1 and Max 2, AR 100 types
Demro TAC-1 carbine type
Encom MP-9 and MP-45 carbine types
FAMAS MAS223 types
FN-FAL, FN-LAR, or FN-FNC type semi-automatic firearms
Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12 shotguns
G3SA type
Galil type Heckler and Koch HK91, HK93, HK94, MP5, PSG-1
Intratec TEC 9 and 22 semi-automatic firearms
M1 carbine type
M14S type
MAC 10, MAC 11, MAC 11-9mm carbine type firearms
PJK M-68 carbine type
Plainfield Machine Company Carbine
Ruger K-Mini-14/5F and Mini-14/5RF
SIG AMT, SIG 550SP, SIG 551SP, SIG PE-57 types
SKS with detachable magazine type
Spectre Auto carbine type
Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48 type
Sterling MK-6, MK-7 and SAR types
Steyr A.U.G. semi-automatic firearms
USAS 12 semi-automatic type shotgun
Uzi type semi-automatic firearms
Valmet M62, M71S, M76, or M78 type semi-automatic firearms
Weaver Arm Nighthawk.

(2)Any firearm manufactured under any designation which is substantially identical to any of the firearms listed above.

(3)A semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds, a pistol grip, or a folding stock.

(4)A semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding 15 rounds.

(5)A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault firearm, or any combination of parts from which an assault firearm may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.



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ElvenSoul
01-25-2011, 6:30 AM
Not states but Canada and New Zealand have even more severe restrictions than we do.

QQQ
01-25-2011, 6:38 AM
DC, American Samoa, and Puerto Rico also have tighter restrictions, but those aren't technically states.

MaHoTex
01-25-2011, 6:42 AM
NJ calssifies the "M1 carbine" as an assault rifle. :shrug:

That is just dumb.

pacrimguru
01-25-2011, 7:41 AM
thanks for the info guys especially cedric, that's some good info you collected there.

dfletcher
01-25-2011, 7:50 AM
What I've always wondered about, in those states do they go to the same extent as do we in "pushing the limit" regarding AWs, getting in certain handguns. From what I've read on line and having family in MA they do not. Would be interesting to spread the word on how things are accomplished here.

pacrimguru
01-25-2011, 8:17 AM
What I've always wondered about, in those states do they go to the same extent as do we in "pushing the limit" regarding AWs, getting in certain handguns. From what I've read on line and having family in MA they do not. Would be interesting to spread the word on how things are accomplished here.

agreed.

rromeo
01-25-2011, 8:25 AM
I believe most of the east coast states that have a ban still allow the transfer of "pre-ban" AWs and parts.

Dreaded Claymore
01-25-2011, 9:14 AM
All of these laws look, legally, as or more indefensible than the California AWB. Seems like someone should have taken out "series" or "type" in court by now.

Exile Machine
01-25-2011, 9:42 AM
For AR-15 type rifles CT, MA, NJ and NY all can use the Hammerhead but there's no legal definition of pistol grip, so we recommend customers use it in Type I or Type II config (as part of a stock, not in Type III as a standalone grip). Customers in those states would love to have something like a magazine lock as in CA but there is no such provision in their law.

AR-15s are heavily regulated in New Zealand. We sell the Hammerhead there as well and the product is approved by the NZ police as a non-military pattern grip for constructing a sporting rifle.

What's interesting is that the "evil features" vary across jurisdictions. For example the bayonet lug is evil in the 4 northeastern states mentioned above, but no problem in CA. The thumbhole stock, so evil in CA, is actually one very popular way that shooters in NZ can configure their rifle legally. Threaded barrel on a rifle is not an issue in CA but it kills kittens in the northeast US. Suppressors/silencers, spawn of the devil in CA, are actually standard equipment in New Zealand.

bwiese
01-25-2011, 11:23 AM
which other states have magazine / mag lock restrictions like ours in CA? can shooters living in other restricted states use bullet buttons / raddlocks / solar tactical grips / MMG's / hammerhead grips / U15 stocks? just wondering.

Every state that regulates certain types of semiauto firearms has its own unique laws. Do NOT expect carryover on, say, definition of 'detachable magazine'.

Also, CA is one of the better states in terms of strength of regulatory law and avoidance of underground regulation issues. "Old" states on east coase may not be nearly as good and/or judge gets to do what he wants with 'plain meaning', etc.

NEVER TRY TO EXTRAPOLATE LEGALITY IN ONE STATE FROM WHAT'S LEGAL IN ANOTHER.